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Heated floor question

Yahoo Message Number: 91457
We've not used the Allure in colder weather since we just go it in April. We are curious if the heated tile floor really warms the coach or just makes the floor warm on bare feet. Does it really do much to actually warm the interior?

Gary

'07 Allure 470 #31578

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Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 91459
Hi Gary,

We use our heated floor for all of our heating needs when the temperature is above 35 degrees! It absolutely warms the interior of the coach, we throw an extra blanket on the bed and it is perfect. The radiant heat is really comfortable for us.
I would recommend making sure your diesel burner heat works though. Usually ours needs to have a rubber mallet hit at the solenoid valves as they tend to stick if they are not used for long periods of time :-). Feel free to call with questions.

Marta

07 Allure 31501

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Yahoo Message Number: 91460
We really love the heated floors in our new (to us) '06 Affinity. We had hydronic heat in our '99 Magna so already knew the benefit of it. Between the two we stayed toasty warm in snow and high winds in MO in March (our first trip in the new coach). The floors definitely heat the coach nicely. Just having my feet warm always makes me feel warmer.

Tammy '06 Affinity 6611

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Yahoo Message Number: 91462
Gary--

We use ours in our 2005 Affinity. It keeps us toasty & we don't have to listen to the noise of the furnace or heat pump. But we winter in FL, so extreme cold is not a factor. Take your throw rugs up, they can heat up too much. You'll have to experiment w/ the temperatures. Takes a little while to heat up, but sure worth it. Plus cooling down takes a little time too.

Good luck,

Gayle Carrick



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Hi Gary,

We use our heated floor for all of our heating needs when the temperature is above 35 degrees! It absolutely warms the interior of the coach, we throw an extra blanket on the bed and it is perfect. The radiant heat is really comfortable for us.
I would recommend making sure your diesel burner heat works though. Usually ours needs to have a rubber mallet hit at the solenoid valves as they tend to stick if they are not used for long periods of time :-). Feel free to call with questions.

Marta

07 Allure 31501

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We've not used the Allure in colder weather since we just go it in April. We are curious if the heated tile floor really warms the coach or just makes the floor warm on bare feet. Does it really do much to actually warm the interior? Gary '07 Allure 470 #31578

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Yahoo Message Number: 91463
When we were up at Country Coach this summer (before it got warm up there), I turned on the floor heat in one coach in the afternoon. We went back in the coach next morning, and the wife asked why it was so hot in that coach. Turned out I had forgotten to turn off the floor heat--it made it quite toasty inside. I've also talked to owners that stated the floor heat keeps the entire coach warm. I did turn the floor heat back off right away!

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Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 91464
Gary,

The heated floor does just that....heats the floor. It also makes a small dent in the heating requirement for the coach.
We have three setting for our heated floor Vacation setting is 73 dgrees Day setting is 83 degrees Night setting is 93 degrees
These are what we set and use in cool weather.
George in Birmingham '03 Magna 6298
George in Birmingham
2003 Magna 6298

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Yahoo Message Number: 91465
We use ours for sole heat source unless below freezing. Set floor at 72 day and 90 from 5pm to 10 am. Use a costco duraflame to take the chill off in the morning if it freezes outside. marc 05 affinity 6429

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Yahoo Message Number: 91466
We agree with those folks who say the heated floor contributes greatly to the overall temp inside. We have used the heated floor tiles for the only heat source in temps down to around 30 degrees. It sure beats listening to the diesel furnace all night and provides a lot of heat.

Ricardo 04 Intrigue #11830

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Yahoo Message Number: 91474
We've not used ours too much yet. But are experimenting with it on this trip. It was 29 degrees last night in Custer, SD.
We use a combo of small portable electric heater, much quieter then the coach furnace that runs off of the Hydro Hot. (Especially our front zone, as one of the squirrel cage fans is on it's way out:)!).
We find that our electric element (120V only) can keep up with heating one zone via the coach furnace. We set it to come on as a back up, if the small portable unit can not keep up with the demands.
We're experimenting on this trip with adding the floor tile heat, and last night it worked well. We'll kick up the temp a bit more on this tonight, and see if it helps more.
When boon docking, we use a Heat Buddy that is spliced into a quick disconnect that we had run out from under the fridge drawers on our coach. It usually does the job with just one of the panels fired up, but we have the secondary panel that can be stated up on high if needed, as well as battery powered fan.
The diesel powered Hydro Hot is our last/fall back position for heating, due to the noise.

Best to all,
Smitty

04 Allure 31017
04 Allure Sold to a nice new owner! Now enjoying a 07 Magna Rembrandt 45' ISX600 #6775
"We're ONDROAD for THEJRNY!" (Toad and Coach license plates, say Hi if you see us!)

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Yahoo Message Number: 91475
Responded a second time to this thread, as I wanted to talk more about pulling up floor rugs.
DW likes, with 4 thru mats, and one around the throne makes 5. Only one, outside the shower door, has rubber backing.
As we are in the early learning curve of using the heated flooring, I wanted to ask if throw rugs without rubber backings would be a problem for the heated flooring? We picked up the shower one and toss it over the door at night. I had the flooring on level 73 for last night, and when I reached under the other throw rugs, the tile was a bit warmer but not that much more then the non covered tiles.

We will set the temp to 85 tonight and see how that goes...

Anyone else leaving throw rugs down with the heated flooring?

Thanks, and best to all,
Smitty
04 Allure Sold to a nice new owner! Now enjoying a 07 Magna Rembrandt 45' ISX600 #6775
"We're ONDROAD for THEJRNY!" (Toad and Coach license plates, say Hi if you see us!)

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Yahoo Message Number: 91477
Smitty,

My '04 Allure had the same noisy fan for the front heat exchanger. Eventually I changed out all three fan units. Below are two links to the replacements. They come as 24 VDC with three speeds. I set all three up as three speed with a Heatercraft three speed switch. Have done the same to my Magna. You really need to replace that fan so you can use all the features of your coach.
http://www.marine-products.com/heatercraft-heater-fan-motor-for-200h-or-500h-hydronic-heater-h-207.html?avad=2006_c36acc97

http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse.cfm/heater-motor-24-volt-with-housing-f-200-500-series-172513/4,31571.html

Good luck.
George in Birmingham '03 Magna 6298
George in Birmingham
2003 Magna 6298

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Yahoo Message Number: 91482
George, When you replaced these Motors/Fans, did it make it quieter when they were on?My font one is so noisy....Dave From:

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Smitty, My '04 Allure had the same noisy fan for the front heat exchanger. Eventually I changed out all three fan units. Below are two links to the replacements. They come as 24 VDC with three speeds. I set all three up as three speed with a Heatercraft three speed switch. Have done the same to my Magna. You really need to replace that fan so you can use all the features of your coach.http://www.marine-products.com/heatercraft-heater-fan-motor-for-200h-or-500h-hydronic-heater-h-207.html?avad=2006_c36acc97http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse.cfm/heater-motor-24-volt-with-housing-f-200-500-series-172513/4,31571.htmlGood luck. George in Birmingham'03 Magna 6298
Dave & Jodi
2007 CC Allure 40’ Tag #31495
2012 Jeep GC
Big Bear Lake, Ca & Henderson, Nev

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Yahoo Message Number: 91483
The owner's manuals do not recommend anything on top of the floor when you are running floor heat. That includes pets.

Per

95 Affinity 5259

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Yahoo Message Number: 91484
We have done away with all rubber backed rugs, but leave our cloth ones down when using the heated floor and have had no problems over our 6 years with this coach. We so enjoyed the heated galley and bath floor that last winter we had wood grain ceramic tile installed over heat pad from the bedroom to the front of the coach. Love it.

S. Brandt, '06 Intrigue, 11964

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Yahoo Message Number: 91491
Just wanted to weigh in here with a couple comments. Floor heating probably afford nice quiet even dry heat if you don't use area rugs, but there's certainly a downside... if you have to replace cracked tiles or have to replace tiles for any other reason, it is very easy to damage the heating elements resulting in a VERY expensive repair. We had a few cracked tiles and I was fortunate to find some discontinued replacement tiles from the original manufacturer and had the cracked ones removed and had all the crumbling grout replaced. Shame on Country Coach for a flawed installation back in 2008. Pretty common from what I heard.
If I had had to have the entire tile floor replaced I was given estimates of 4500 to 7500... ouch! If I had had heated floors, it would have added thousands to the cost. It cost me all told less than 500 bucks and I have a nice supply of replacement tiles for any future repairs. Knowing what I know now there is not a chance I would buy a coach with heated tile floors unless the price were discounted and it had the normal Aquahot heating as well.
Furthermore, we LOVE using area rugs. We have dozens of genuine Persian rugs in our primary residence, some antiques worth ten grand or more. So naturally to make the coach feel like home we have persians on the floors... 6 to be exact. We love the colorful artistic aspect as well as the feel feel of thick persian rugs under our feet and you cannot use them with heated floors. In addition we travel with two Westies (small dogs) and their assorted dog beds and such on the floor. Heated floors would be a deal breaker as far as we're concerned.
As to the noise factor of the Aquahot heating, first of all, if you have noisy fans, replace them. We had our OEM cheapo fans replaced with Cozy III fans at the suggestion of John Carillo, Aquahot tech. They are great and much quieter, and relatively inexpensive. If we are boondocking in chilly weather, the AqH system works great, but frankly we almost never use it in the RV parks. We have two oil-filled radiators that we just love. We have one in the main cabin and one in the bedroom. They are silent, provide a nice consistent radiant warmth that keeps the coach toasty and uses minimal shore power, in the event we are paying our own electric bills. And the design has less fire hazard than any other electrical part of the coach. The only trick is remembering to turn them off temporarily if using them on the high setting and running another high draw appliance on the same circuit. Hadn't used them lately and I forgot this morning and used the toaster... POP! Probably higher end coaches may have more than two circuits front and back like ours, so it might not be such an issue. We have to remember this issue.

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Yahoo Message Number: 91498
Dave, Yes. The replacement fans/motors were very quiet. All of my fans eventually failed at the bearings. That is why I replaced them all. We do a fair amount of cool to cold weather RVing yet still like a warm interior so we use the HH alot. Thus worn bearings. Also, the advantage of the three speed adaptation is it allows for slower and quieter operation in weather that is not too cold. George in Birmingham'03 Magna 6298
George in Birmingham
2003 Magna 6298