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Free Enterprise - Enough

Yahoo Message Number: 7294
Forget about it.... You can debate this everyday for a month, but nothing is going to change. If you pay too much, it's your own fault, not the dealers! Make your best deal and move forward. Do you really think the Dealer Invoice on auto's is what you see? They don't stay in business by making 100.00 over some fictitious paper invoice.

Buy pre-owned from an individual at near wholesale and laugh all the way to the bank. If you have a trade, sell it first!

Tom

02 Allure 30780

Re: Free Enterprise - Enough

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 7302
From: "truk4u2003" truk4u@...>

(snip) > Forget about it.... You can debate this everyday for a month, but nothing is going to change. If you pay too much, it's your own fault, not the dealers! Make your best deal and move forward. (snip) The bottom line is the *bottom line* (cash out of hand), regardless of dealer's cost, trade in, etc.

For example, ~5 years ago, our daughter wanted to order a new car. She started by getting a computer printout from *Consumer Report* listing invoice price, etc. I accompanied her to seven dealers, six of which treated her like the idiot she isn't. The sales guy who treated her with respect (not like a "little woman") gave her the second lowest price.
Because he treated her with respect, she went back to him and gave him a chance to match the lowest price. He did, and she ended up ordering the car through him.

After the experience was over, she realized that knowing the invoice prices didn't accomplish a thing, 'cause the bottom line was the same *bottom line* that would've been reached even without the printout in hand. End of story.
By the way ... I was a BMW sales guy in the mid-'60s when their MSRP started at ~$2,700 (not a typo). Our biggest competition was the mechanically similar (OHC 4-cyl, 4-speed, IRS) Datsun 510 at ~$1,800. Have times changed or what???

Dick (& Geri) Campagna (we own ~200 Porsches and VW's ... albeit diecast )

'98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97

Re: Free Enterprise - Enough

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 7307
Hey Dick,

You don't have one of those 2700.00 Beemers tucked away in your garage do you? Your right, the bottom line is the bottom line..
Happy Turkey day.
Tom

02 Allure 30780
 

Re: Free Enterprise - Enough

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 7311
From: "truk4u2003" truk4u@...>

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Hey Dick,
You don't have one of those 2700.00 Beemers tucked away in your garage do you? Your right, the bottom line is the bottom line.
No $2,700 BMW's here. The last one I sold stickered at $4,200 fully loaded, BTW. Factory A/C wasn't available and metallic paint was a ~$400 option.
To put things into perspective, folks wouldn't mind spending $2,700 for a car (BMW) today rather than $1,800 (Datsun 510), but that was a huuuuge percentage difference and, as a result, it was a hard sell, especially since the 510 was, and still is, essentially similar and a great car on its own merits (SCCA Sedan Racing, anyone?).
I do remember that BMW said that they would eventually be a major force in the U.S. Little did they know that they'd go through a cycle of first appealing to the sports car crowd, then to yuppees, and now to a wider demographic 'cause of their variety of product.
And I guess that's what Country Coach is now doing with the Inspire ... widening their product line. Will they try a Class C again??? Or would that "dilute" the brand name's cachet?

Dick (& Geri) Campagna
'98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97