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Sewer hose storage

Yahoo Message Number: 957
We have a new CC Allure 36", this is our third MH and I am very dissapointed with the lack of storage for the sewer hose. When we were looking to buy this coach I was fooled by the built in storage tube that is too short for a 10' hose and won't accept the hose with the fittings on it. So far I have been forced to just lay it in the bottom of the compartment that is shared with fresh water, TV, cable etc...YUK!

Any ideas out there for doing something more sanitary? TIA
Allen

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Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 958
Exactly the same feeling here. I have a new Intrigue and I am unable to use the storage tube. I refuse to remove the fittings each time so it will fit in the tube. Using a large plastic trash bag right now. Any ideas also would be welcomed.

RB

Intrigue - #11480

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Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 959
I believe most of my customers lay there 20' sewer hose on the bottom of the plumbing bay. You can cut down your sewer hose to a bit in length and remove the tabs from the coupler to make it fit as well.

Damon

Damon K. Rapozo

Diesel Sales Division

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Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 962
For sewer hose storage I did two things. First I replaced the short tube with a maximum allowable length tube. Second, I added a pvc tube in the storage bay just in front of the plumbing bay (1999 Intrigue) nearly 8' long suspending it from the top of the bay with hangers. I also had to remove the panel covering the holding tanks on the passenger side. In here on top of the gray water tank I have almost full length storage for sewer supports, etc. I do not have the problem of too-large-diameter connectors but with this system there is room to extend the hose beyond the pvc tube and still have it behind the bay door.

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Yahoo Message Number: 963
Robert,

We have a 2000 Intrigue. The plumbing bay layout is very second rate and I just hope they improve it soon so that when we next trade in a couple of years we can get the benefit of a new layout.
On our coach the cable and phone connectors are also in the wet bay which is not very nice.
Concerning the storage problem for the hose. We carry three lengths of sewer hose with disconnects. The shortest length lays in the wet bay.
We recently purchased a couple of plastic containers with lids from Target. They are the type designed for under bed storage (we put Christmas decorations in them).
It occurs to me that one of these may be ideal for storing the extra sewer hose in the shore line bay so will give it a try. Certainly an improvement over the plastic bag. Will put a few holes in the top to allow the moisture to escape.

What do you think?

David 2000 Intrigue 11062

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Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 966
There certainly has been a lot of talk about sewer hose storage problems. I don't have any problem at all with our 36' Intrigue, 2001. The installed receptacle with hold a heavy-duty 10' hose with the thetford connector on the outer end and a "slip-type" coupler with a hose clamp on the inner end.
Don

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Yahoo Message Number: 967
In a24673+il4e@...>, on 01/16/02

at 02:20 PM, "rbessinger12" robert.bessinger@...> said:

OK guys, here's what solves this problem for me.
I use the Ultimate Sewer hose system from Presto-fit (camping world). The hose itself has flexible press-on ends that just push onto the various connectors and adapters. I use the Presto-fit universal sewer adapter to attach the hose to the sewer pipe. I would highly recommend the little "keeper" for storing the adapter since it has fragile plastic threading.
At the coach end of the hose I don't use Presto-fit's bayonnete connector.
I tried two of them and they both leaked. So at that end I just permanently attached a standard black bayonnette connector with a clamp.
My hose has the standard black adapter on one end (minus the ears) and only the flexible plastic connector on the other. It fits in the standard CC space just fine (placing the small end in first). I store my 10 foot hose there (which is almost always long enough for me), but I also have another 10 foot hose that I keep in a plastic container in another bay just in case. The two hoses are easily connected with a little solid plastic piece (from Presto-fit) that they push on to.

Jim Ott

Intrigue 10865

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>Exactly the same feeling here. I have a new Intrigue and I am unable to >use the storage tube. I refuse to remove the fittings each time so it >will fit in the tube. Using a large plastic trash bag right now. Any >ideas also would be welcomed.
RB

Intrigue - #11480

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Yahoo Message Number: 968
Yes, some type of shallow container or maybe getting creative with PVC pipe mounted somewhere in the basement. I just can't believe they didn't consider longer hoses and fittings when they designed the storage tube.
RB

Intrigue - #11480

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Yahoo Message Number: 969
Thanks for all your ideas. I'm like RB, when you pay the $$$'s that one does you'd think this would'nt be an issue. I guess like many consumers it's the little things that rub me.
Allen

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Yahoo Message Number: 970
Me too Allen. Country Coach needs to wake up but they never will. Our coach has been out of service more than in. As far as construction I think it is a good coach. As far as conviencences it sucks. I wrote CC an email telling them that they need to continue building a quality coach but incorporate the Monacho and American coach convinencences inside. Hope you never have to start the Generator when you are traveling alone or you better have a long arm or a stick with you. As far as the exterior they use the best paint but do the poorest job of painting I have ever seen. Just rub your hand over the graphics and you will see what I mean. Don't crawl up on your roof and expect to see it painted. It's raw gelcoat which will go to heck in a few years. Even the cheapest coachs with a fiberglass roof have the roof painted. CC says, Oh we have never had a problem. If you live in Florida like my wife and I it will be. This is the 15th coach of different manufactuars we've owned and without a doubt the the worst for the money spent. We can't wait to get back into another American Coach. They treat you and your Wife like King and Queens. Sorry for the long reply but We are tired of CC in less than a year.

Jack Finnegan
11253

PS: Excuse my spelling.

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Yahoo Message Number: 973
Hello Jack,

Sounds like your CC is giving you a bad time, sorry to hear that. In my mind CC builds the best coach out there, we sell others on our lot but even our service department feels CC puts together the best unit. Granted they do not have the "pizaz" as the Monaco line or American Coach but thats probably because of the extra effort & $$$ Country Coach puts into there chassis. I would first recommend you going to www.rversonline.org and looking up the "Class A Chassis" article by Bob Gummersal, its a single page that is very informative. No one in the industry builds there chassis straight, true, and level. No one else has a dyno to test each and every chassis for correct HP and torque, proper cooling, shift patterns, etc. Any repeat problems found on the dyno are reported back to the manufacturer (Cat, Cummins, Allison) to help them better there products. The chassis is really tested hard prior to the coach being built. They use the largest tire (12R/22.5) for greater carrying capacity at a lower inflation for a smoother ride. They pick and choose every component used on that chassis (rather than buying a chassis where the components were picked for you).
The components are geared towards the coach, not one size fits all. The wheelbases are the longest, there Independent front suspension has the sharpest turning radius, 51 degrees on Allure & Intrigue---55 degrees on Magna, Affinity, Lexa, and Prevost. The slide outs come out above the floor (2001 and newer Allure & Intrigue, 2003 Magna, Affinity, & Lexa) so your basement is not affected and you dont have to get on your knees to access the bays. The slide out has no rollers under it so it will not crack your tile or leave permanent marks in the carpet, you can have a rug in the galley that you dont have to pick up everytime you move your room in. The slide out is self locking so you dont need any manual locking arms. They have an exterior service bay, a 2 1/2" insulated steel framed floor (rather than 5/8" deck board), I could literally go on all night but we just had a baby girl last week and my wife is giving me the "look". Last, I think you will like the changes Country Coach is making for 2003 which will debut at teh FMCA rally in Perry, GA. this March. A quick few of the changes are hydronic heat std on everything, pantograph bay doors std on Intrigue on up on storage bays not located under slide outs, black and grey water rinse, some new floorplans, 42" plasma TV on Magna on up std, and much more that I cannot remember right now. Friday I will be back at work and offer a more detailed list, teh changes look exciting, pricing looks great, and they promissed me really nice interiors this year. They dont paint there roofs, but niether does Holiday Rambler & Newmar. Maybe Fleetwood does. They dont sand down the paint edges before they clear coat but they do have a lot of paint on the coach although it may not feel good. Country Coach does have the straightest most rock solid sidewalls I have ever seen, whether they are new or 10 years old they are still the most shiny and straight I have seen.
I am not questioning your problems, you have some valid points, I am just trying to make you appreciate your CC again.

Good Luck,

Damon

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Reply #12 –
Yahoo Message Number: 974
Go to the nearest Wal Mart or K Mart and buy a $4.99 storage box. Loop the hose into it and lay your gloves (if you use them) on top of it and you are ready to go. Does take up a bit of bay storage but let's face it - Much more sanitary than what you are doing.

Kathy

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Yahoo Message Number: 975
Allen, we have a '01 40' Intrigue with the same problem. Am really surprised that the company has not done something to aleviate this situation. The design engineers must have heard of this a hundred times or so by now. If you find an answer other than affixing a 4" PVC pipe in the top of another storage cabinet I would sure like to know of it.

ron and molly

'01 Intrigue #11262

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Reply #14 –
Yahoo Message Number: 976
Hi Damon,

I don't disagree with what you say. I still think it is an overpriced piece of junk for what you are paying for. As for the slide. I wonder if you have any ideas why ours leaked?? Any ideas would be appreciated.
Jack

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Yahoo Message Number: 977
Hello Jack,

Sorry I have not been paying attention to past posts, can you describe your slide out leak for me again? If you want to send it direct yuor welsomed to or give me a previous post number and I will look into it for you.

Damon

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Reply #16 –
Yahoo Message Number: 978
I didn't have a post on the issue. The leak was right behind the drivers seat. An apporoved repair center ran a bead of caulk along the bottom of the front slide.

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Yahoo Message Number: 980
February 2002 Trailer Life issue (page 69) has a clever idea which, in my opinion, was "thinking outside of the box".
Don't put the hose in a long tube, but put a long 2" PVC pipe through the hose and hang the hose/pipe (horizontally) in the RV's basement.

Herb

2002 CC Allure

(just switched from SunnyBrook Travel Trailer and my TL subscription has not expired!)
 

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Yahoo Message Number: 1071
The good news is tha the tube that CC put in the wet bay is ideal for storing the telephone line adaptor and some phone cabling.

My primative approach includes a set of washable heavy blue rubber anf fabric gloves avauable at Home Depot. I wear them for all hook-up activities, including electrical cable handling.

I use a storage tub without a lid, which I keep in the bay left of the wet bay.I keep all of my sewer hoses and a short garden hose, used only for washing out the sewre hose in the tub.

I drain my black tank first, then grey. If camped for a few days, I'll close my grey water valve a day before to store up 1/2 to 3/4 tank.

I hook up the water hose to the flush valve and let it run while I'm draining the black tank and a few minutes afterwards. I then close the black water valve, flush out the sewer hose (GLOVES ON!!) with the one end of the hose still in the fitting in the park sewer system. I then pull it out, wash the outside and shake it off, then putting it into the tub still wet.
I wash out the tub every 2-3 hook-ups and the golves every time.I use a pump style had soap dispenser on the golves while the are still on my hands.

No mess, no orders.

I used the slip on type until it came apart one time and bathed me in sewage --- NO MAS!!!

Camping World does carry a swift little pump that uses the park water pressure to drive it and has very small hoses. It actually emulifies the waste and is self cleaning. I think they coast a little over $100.00, but vey slick.