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Re: 2003 Allure

Reply #25 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2539
Unfortunately No. We are located on the left side. Would like to meet other owners from the right side and middle but not possible in the near term.

The plastic handles on the glass doors can be removed by gently warming them with a hair dryer. A finger slot is milled (rabbited ?) along the bottom of the door on the back side so that it is not visible from the front.

If you find someone with a hand held router this could probably be accomplished without removing the doors.

Hope that helps.

David and Karen,
2000 Intrigue 11062

Re: 2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #26 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2540
Just a note: Country Coach will NOT apply 3M on new coaches ordered. Problems have been with the adhesive used with this product. It is so strong, that if the freshly applied paint on your coach has not fully cured, the 3M gluing will REMOVE the paint (Have seen this happen). Before installing 3M to a newly ordered motorhome, make sure the paint used is entirely dry (Three/Four weeks at least).

Robin

BuddyGregg Motorhomes.

Re: 2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #27 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2541
"I would be concerned with that low coolant temperature and the fact it does not vary much. This is usually an indication that the fan controller is in fail safe mode, operating at max speed continiously." -------------

Definitely not in my case. I eliminated the dust storm by removing the orifices in hydraulic line to fan motor a couple of years ago. I think it is just a very efficient cooling system. Thank goodness.

Sincerely

George W Becker

gwb36@... 1999 Country Coach Intrigue #10700

Re: Hot Water--2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #28 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2542

Quote

When I finally realized you cannot get an adequate supply from elec alone and turned on the deisel heater, then I had plenty of hot water.

Walt Rothermel
2003Allure30811

Walt

When you say that you "turned on the diesel heater" do you mean that you had to turn on the furnace?
Tom

2003 Allure 30858

Re: 2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #29 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2544
Dick,

My Hurricane heater is the model CO45XL, which does have a true heat exchanger. I believe my Intrigue is one of the few that has this as the only hot water source. I believe the new Allures have this as a standard. I do also have the tag axle, which may in fact be the reason for omitting the typical Atwood hot water heater. The specifications for the 2003's show both the Hurricane and the 10 gallon Atwood as standard. I wish I had both since I have experienced problems with my Hurricane.

Rob

'02 Intrigue - #11480

Re: Hot Water--2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #30 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2545
Tom, you turn on the "central heat control " but not the " interior heat exchangers." When you turn on the water heater switch you automatically get electrically heated water if you are hooked up or have your generator on.
This gives you hot water almost instantly and suffices for hand washing, dishes, etc. but not for showers of any length at all. Prior to showering, we turn on the deisel. Hope this helps---maybe CCI will have a seminar on these systems in Kansas.

Walt Rothermel
2003Allure30811

Re: 2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #31 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2546
Hi George,

Could you be a little more specific as to the location of the orfices, how they are removed and how removal increases efficiency.

Why are they there to begin with?
Fred Kovol

Re: 2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #32 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2548
I think that the Hurricane only hot water is a good idea. I just wonder what things are like during really hot weather. I had four years of Atwood only with A/C or LP and now have the Hurricane with the Atwood and am very happy with that setup. I have never been without hot water for the two of us.... as long as we remember to turn on the LP burner when dry camping.

Dick May

2002 Intrigue, #11438
Dick May
2002 Intrigue, #11438, towing a
2014 Jeep Gr Cherokee ecoDiesel

Re: 2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #33 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2549
The salesman had first suggested the film, but because of the rough texture on the bottom section, he did not think that the film could be applied. If it can be, I might could cancel the order. I would prefer the film.

Ree

Coach Armor was RE: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 2003 Allure (Ree

Reply #34 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2550
I have never had the armor. My previous coach had the black vinyl bra which I thought was ugly. It was easy enough to remove and put back on, but ended up not doing it most of the time. I saw a couple of rigs with the armor and thought they looked nice. I did not like the way the one on the Monaco looked, but the CC looked nice. I thought that there was a new type of installation that made the cleaning problem easier..
The dealer was going to paint the front because of a few rock chips coming from the factory. There is no way that I could let that cure for 3 weeks before applying the film because I will be heading west the end of Sept. or first week in Oct. If it can be applied, I may see about canceling the order and when I get back in the spring they could paint it and apply then. Of course, there would be more chips in it by then!
Comments about the rough texture at the bottom would be appreciated. If it can be applied over the rough texture, I might get the film applied around the wheel well area as well.

Ree.

Re: 2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #35 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2552
re coach armor.

I had it on my last coach....while is worked, it was a maintenance hassle. I got the 3M put on by the factory just under two years ago. I am very happy with it. The bugs come quite easily. Fortunately I have not had any very large rocks hit the front. So I can't say what would happen. Some rocks dig leave very tiny "dings" in the 3M armor, but they are not noticeable.
I am not sure that CC like to put the 3M on coaches. It is very labor intensive and you've got to do it just right. One disadvantage is that some of the edges can start to get a bit of dirt under them and it takes a little more effort to wash the dirt out and not pull the 3M off, but that is nothing compared to washing that big sheet of plastic.
So far -- 24,000 miles, I really like it and would install it over the thick bus armor.

hope this info helps.
Den

Re: 2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #36 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2553
Denny, does your coach have the textured/rough finish on the lower section?

Ree

Re: Coach Armor was RE: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 2003 Allure

Reply #37 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2554
Has anyone used the "Diamond Shield" or something like that? It is a film, but wonder what the difference between it and the 3M/

Ree

Re: Coach Armor was RE: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 2003 Allure

Reply #38 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2555
Wish I could help you Ree with your questions about the textured finish. But I have an Affinity and the entire front end is a smooth finish. I would recommend that you talk with folks who have done the installation on a textured finish and ask them for customer references.
Again, I'm very happy with my 3M installation, just a few problems with a minor amount of dirt in some of the edges. best of luck

Denny Zarnt

2001 Affinity # 5972

Re: 2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #39 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2557
The film cannot be successfully applied to the textured surface. If a coach is going to have the film applied by Nortech or any other applicator (after manufacture), CC is informed so the texture is not applied during the coach's assembly. The default process is adding the textured surface because the majority of the coaches have the lexan coach armor installed.

Fred Johnson

Re: 2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #40 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2558
"Hi George,

Could you be a little more specific as to the location of the orfices, how they are removed and how removal increases efficiency.

Why are they there to begin with?" ---------------

My understanding is that later Intrigues use electric controls and maybe electric fan. Mine is a hydraulic motor. I got this kit from CC (which I heard is no longer providing it because it supposedly does not provide enough airflow at idle when running dash air and can result in blown ac seals). It involves removing small hole orficies and replacing with full flow fittings in one of the two hydraulic lines to the fan. There is a thermovalve anyway which calls for more fan speed if the coolant exceeds 185 degrees. So full speed especially at idle is not required. The manual gives a good description of the operation but in my later years my attention span is decreasing. So I can not give a complete, technical description. I did do an admittedly simplified thermodynamic study and convinced myself that the excessive parasitic horsepower drain due to the unnecessarily high fan speed can result in an observed 1/2 to 1 mpg.

Sincerely

George W Becker

gwb36@... 1999 Country Coach Intrigue #10700

Re: 2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #41 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2559
Ree

I had the 3M installed at the factory on my 2003 Allure. It works great and I am very pleased with how easy it is to clean off the bugs! They didn't seem to have any problems appling the 3M. Acually, it was applied by the 3M vendor. I think his name is Glenn Norris. I think he said that he will be at the FMCA Rally in Kansas from Oct 1-3. (I know, I am thinking a lot!)
Tom
30858

Coach Armor was RE: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 2003 Allure (Ree

Reply #42 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2561
Ree

Give Country Coach a call and ask them for Glenn Norris's phone number. He is the vendor that installs the 3M. He can tell you how he handles the rough section of the front

Tom

Re: Coach Armor was RE: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 2003 Allure

Reply #43 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2562
Ree, I wouldn't worry about the rough coat at the bottom. Putting protection over that is, in my opinion, overkill.
Walt Rothermel
2003Allure30811

Re: Coach Armor was RE: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 2003 Allure

Reply #44 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2565
I have 5 years - 65,000 miles - with the coach armor and I have been very happy with it. I think I made the right decision in putting it on my second coach. Yes, it is a little difficult to clean well... the back side. I have a B&D battery screwdriver with a hex bit that makes removing and replacing the screws a snap.
I just bought the Plexus cleaner that was talked about earlier. I used it on the plastic panel on the screen door and it worked really great! I used it on a LITTLE corner of the coach armor and will let it sit for a few days to make sure.
Even with traditional cleaning I will still have it on my future MHs.

Dick May

2002 Intrigue, #11438
Dick May
2002 Intrigue, #11438, towing a
2014 Jeep Gr Cherokee ecoDiesel

Re: 2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #45 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2566
Tom....

The last time I did a comparison this is what I recorded:

Dash SilverLeaf

Engine temp 220 192 Tranny temp 209 198

Dick May

2002 Intrigue, #11438
Dick May
2002 Intrigue, #11438, towing a
2014 Jeep Gr Cherokee ecoDiesel

Re: 2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #46 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2577
Thanks, Dick

When I called Country Coach about the temperatures, they said that the standard gauges read about 8% higher than real temperature and the gauges read output temperatures rather than the input temperatures. If that is true, and I have no reason to doubt them, then my temperatures guages are in line with the manual temperatures of 175-190.

I guess my only concern is maybe the manuals should state temperatures that are actually read by the gauges rather than---you get my point.

Tom Royer

2003 Cascade with a tag

Re: 2003 Allure (Ree/Walt)

Reply #47 –
Yahoo Message Number: 2579
Additionally... if CC knows that there is a +8% error built in, why not correct the problem?
Dick May
2002 Intrigue, #11438, towing a
2014 Jeep Gr Cherokee ecoDiesel
 

2003 Allure

Reply #48 –
Yahoo Message Number: 32040
For those of you that have e-mailed me, the coach can be seen on the RV Online web site, select 36' and my unit is the second down, an Allure Sunriver. My phone is listed in the add and as most know I own two CC's. I guess that is not a testament to my intelligence but I just could not let the dealer steal the unit. This will be a great buy and well below market. Since I am retired,I will be traveling soon and thus my motivation to sell. Driving two units is very difficult.