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Sealant on Roof mountings

Yahoo Message Number: 26545
Hi all:

Today I did my annual roof wash (should be seme-annual, but this year's travel schedule didn't allow for it) and found two cracks in the sealant used - one under my horn mounting and one under the wind sensor for my electric awning. No evidence inside of water, YET.

The sealant used has a light grey color and doesn't look like silicone. Does anyone know what it is? I assume I need to chip/clean out all the old sealant - there is a fairly large pile around both - nd then reseal. Why wouldn't silicone caulk work?

Thanks

Bob Amory

2002 Allure 30760

Re: Sealant on Roof mountings

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26547
Bob, I don't think those little cracks go through. I would just apply a silicone over the cracked areas and have a beer. I maintained my roof just like yourself, and find the same cracks, and do the silicone and so far no issue, I have a 2003 Allure for sale and a new 2006. I also had a 1997 Allure so I have been at this about 10 years. The 303 has really helped, but does not stop the cracks.

Re: Sealant on Roof mountings

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26549
Bob, I went to camping world and got some self leveling sealant. It seems to do a good job. I agree, you should just put it on the cracks and have a beer. Good luck, William, 03 allure

Re: Sealant on Roof mountings

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26551
Bob:

The sealant used by CC is Acryl-R. It is difficult to find as it is a "for professional use only." You won't find it at any place like Home Depot or Lowes, although they do carry a similar polyurethane sealant.
I was able to get a couple of tubes of Acryl-R from a RV dealer in Albany, OR. I forgot the name, but it was adjacent to Blue Ox RV Park in Albany. You might check with CC parts, too.

Chuck Penque

03 Intrigue 11673

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Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26554
Love the advice; worth a nice cold Peroni!! Thanks

Bob

--- James Spivey spivey64@...> wrote:

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Bob, I don't think those little cracks go through.
I would just apply a

silicone over the cracked areas and have a beer. I > maintained my roof just

like yourself, and find the same cracks, and do the > silicone and so far no

issue, I have a 2003 Allure for sale and a new 2006.
 I also had a 1997

Allure so I have been at this about 10 years. The > 303 has really helped,

but does not stop the cracks.

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> From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of amoryrf

Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 3:58 PM > To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Sealant on Roof > mountings

Hi all:

Today I did my annual roof wash (should be > seme-annual, but this

year's travel schedule didn't allow for it) and > found two cracks in

the sealant used - one under my horn mounting and > one under the wind

sensor for my electric awning. No evidence inside of > water, YET.

The sealant used has a light grey color and doesn't > look like

silicone. Does anyone know what it is? I assume I > need to chip/clean

out all the old sealant - there is a fairly large > pile around both -

nd then reseal. Why wouldn't silicone caulk work? >

Thanks

Bob Amory

2002 Allure 30760
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Re: Sealant on Roof mountings

Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26556
Hi Bob,

Do not use silicone - see link

http://www.thetravelforum.com/showthread.php?t=168648
You my have to cut and paste if clicking on the link doesn't work

Or you can google: ACYL-R sealant sale

Can be bought at:

http://www.bellrpg.net/lakecountry/RV/grouppart.asp? MAJ=020&PRI=003&SEC=014&GRP=1702

http://www.rvwholesalers.com/catalog/home.php?cat=199
Fred Kovol

Quote from: amoryrf

Re: Sealant on Roof mountings

Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26559
The sealant used by CC is Acryl-R. It is difficult to find as it is a "for professional use only." You won't find it at any place like Home Depot or Lowes, although they do carry a similar polyurethane sealant.
I was able to get a couple of tubes of Acryl-R from a RV dealer in Albany, OR. I forgot the name, but it was adjacent to Blue Ox RV Park in Albany. You might check with CC parts, too.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE, RNWE:2006-23,RNWE:en&q=Acryl%2dR

Re: Sealant on Roof mountings

Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26566
I tried several different brands of "self leveling sealants". Then I called CC and the guy who did my satellite installation and asked what they use because it is far superior to the brands I had tried. They use Dicor brand sealant and now it is the ONLY brand I will ever use on my coach. It stays soft, never cracks, flows over even the tinest cracks and is easy to remove if I even have a need to do so.
Here are a couple of suggestions... When I see a small crack or area that needs sealed (like around the air horns or fantastic fan or skylight dome in the shower), I just clean the area very well and then layer on another bead of Dicor. The Dicor flows out and seals perfectly to the old sealant. If I get too much Dicor in one place, I easily peel off the old sealant with a putty knife and then just squirt on another bead of Dicor. What a great product!

Regards,

Bob Kumza
2003 Intrigue

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Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26571
Hi Bob,

If you read the responses for Dicor 501 by Googling 'dicor sealant sale', you will find posts that state it only lasts about one year.
Fred Kovol

"rvrobert2003" wrote:

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>

I tried several different brands of "self leveling sealants". Then

I

Quote
called CC and the guy who did my satellite installation and asked

what

Quote
they use because it is far superior to the brands I had tried. They > use Dicor brand sealant and now it is the ONLY brand I will ever use > on my coach. It stays soft, never cracks, flows over even the

tinest

Quote
cracks and is easy to remove if I even have a need to do so.

Here are a couple of suggestions... When I see a small crack or

area

Quote
that needs sealed (like around the air horns or fantastic fan or > skylight dome in the shower), I just clean the area very well and

then

Quote
layer on another bead of Dicor. The Dicor flows out and seals > perfectly to the old sealant. If I get too much Dicor in one place,

I

Re: Sealant on Roof mountings

Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26592
Hi Fred; How long has the Dicor been on your roof? What kind of shape is it in? Mine is 4 years old and looks and performs like new. I have no leaks and the Dicor remains soft and pliable and a perfect seal. I don't know who made the "one year" comment, but that certainly has not been my experience. If you know of a better product than Dicor that is compatible with the existing Dicor sealant on my coach and recommended for use on fiberglass roofs, I'd like to know what it is.

Regards,
Bob

2003 Intrigue

Quote from: fredkovol
Hi Bob,

If you read the responses for Dicor 501 by Googling 'dicor sealant > sale', you will find posts that state it only lasts about one year.
Fred Kovol

"rvrobert2003" wrote:
>

> I tried several different brands of "self leveling sealants".

Then

Quote
I

> called CC and the guy who did my satellite installation and

asked

Quote
what

> they use because it is far superior to the brands I had tried.

They

Quote
use Dicor brand sealant and now it is the ONLY brand I will ever

use

Quote
on my coach. It stays soft, never cracks, flows over even the > tinest

> cracks and is easy to remove if I even have a need to do so.
>

> Here are a couple of suggestions... When I see a small crack or > area

> that needs sealed (like around the air horns or fantastic fan or > > skylight dome in the shower), I just clean the area very well

and

Quote
then

> layer on another bead of Dicor. The Dicor flows out and seals > > perfectly to the old sealant. If I get too much Dicor in one

place,

Re: Sealant on Roof mountings

Reply #10 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26594
Hi Bob,

It is important to specify the type - I mentioned Dicor 501, you may have used a different type, it asppears that the Acyl-R is superior.
Re msg 26556
Fred Kovol

[quote author=rvrobert2003" \.\.\.\>] >

Hi Fred; How long has the Dicor been on your roof? What kind of > shape is it in? Mine is 4 years old and looks and performs like > new. I have no leaks and the Dicor remains soft and pliable and a > perfect seal. I don't know who made the "one year" comment, but > that certainly has not been my experience. If you know of a better > product than Dicor that is compatible with the existing Dicor > sealant on my coach and recommended for use on fiberglass roofs, I'd > like to know what it is.

Regards,

Bob

2003 Intrigue

[quote author=fredkovol"

>

> Hi Bob,

> If you read the responses for Dicor 501 by Googling 'dicor sealant > > sale', you will find posts that state it only lasts about one [/quote]
year.

Re: Sealant on Roof mountings

Reply #11 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26595
Do not use silicone... it does not flex enough after drying to work well on the roof. Plus it doesn't have some other desirable features of Acryl-R...(see below).
The stuff on your roof is Acryl-R. There are three products called Acryl-R: SM8200, SM8500, and SM5522. SM5522 is the Acryl R that is used on RV roofs (I think)... but the others might work just fine too. You can find and purchase the stuff through the internet.
Many RV repair shops also have it.
I bought some SM5522 for use in covering some new holes I drilled in a trailer (for wiring a solar cell panel)... but that is another story.

In your case: DO NOT BUY ANYTHING AT ALL!....:-)
Yep, don't buy anything if you aren't drilling new holes through the roof. One of the fantastic things about Acryl-R (and another reason you don't want to use silicone) is that it does not lose its "sticky". The cracks are probably only cosmetic, but to be sure, just use your finger and gouge out some of the material ... you'll find that there is fresh stuff under the surface film and you can mold it to recover whatever appeared to be a crack. It will restick to itself. (I have a 2000 Magna, and this technique worked just fine.... so the Acryl-R had to be 6 yrs old on my coach, yet it still was malleable!!!)

If you made a mistake and applied silicone, or if you made a mistake and dug out the old Acryl-R and discarded it, then I guess you'll need to buy a new tube and reapply. But if there is stuff on your roof, it can just have the surface skin disturbed and then the underlying stuff can be remolded to cover the cracks.

Good Luck
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Quote from: amoryrf
Hi all:

Today I did my annual roof wash (should be seme-annual, but this > year's travel schedule didn't allow for it) and found two cracks

in

Quote
the sealant used - one under my horn mounting and one under the

wind

Quote
sensor for my electric awning. No evidence inside of water, YET.

The sealant used has a light grey color and doesn't look like > silicone. Does anyone know what it is? I assume I need to

chip/clean

Quote
out all the old sealant - there is a fairly large pile around

both -

Re: Sealant on Roof mountings

Reply #12 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26597
Opps I was half right ignore the cracks and have a beer, the silicone that I used was applied very sparingly, as I clean the roof regularly and did not want to deal with the stuff coming up. Also, I used it were I thought I saw small pin holes in the sky light. Thanks for getting the issue straight!!!!!!!
 

Re: Sealant on Roof mountings

Reply #13 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26621
Well if that works, its fantastic. When I was up there, the sealant felt stiff, but I did not try to work it, since I didn't know to try. Soon as this wet weather moves east, I'll be on the roof and give it a try, since I didn't do anything until I got replies to my post. Occassionally I get things in the right order. Geez do I love this forum!!

Bob

2002 Allure 30760

--- tfsbj7 wrote:

Quote
Do not use silicone... it does not flex enough after > drying to work

well on the roof. Plus it doesn't have some other > desirable

features of Acryl-R...(see below).

The stuff on your roof is Acryl-R. There are three > products called

Acryl-R: SM8200, SM8500, and SM5522. SM5522 is the > Acryl R that is

used on RV roofs (I think)... but the others might > work just fine

too. You can find and purchase the stuff through > the internet.

Many RV repair shops also have it.

I bought some SM5522 for use in covering some new > holes I drilled in

a trailer (for wiring a solar cell panel)... but > that is another
story.

In your case: DO NOT BUY ANYTHING AT ALL!....:-) >

Yep, don't buy anything if you aren't drilling new > holes through the

roof. One of the fantastic things about Acryl-R > (and another

reason you don't want to use silicone) is that it > does not lose

its "sticky". The cracks are probably only > cosmetic, but to be

sure, just use your finger and gouge out some of the > material ...

you'll find that there is fresh stuff under the > surface film and you

can mold it to recover whatever appeared to be a > crack. It will

restick to itself. (I have a 2000 Magna, and this > technique worked

just fine.... so the Acryl-R had to be 6 yrs old on > my coach, yet it

still was malleable!!!)

If you made a mistake and applied silicone, or if > you made a mistake

and dug out the old Acryl-R and discarded it, then I > guess you'll

need to buy a new tube and reapply. But if there > is stuff on your

roof, it can just have the surface skin disturbed > and then the

underlying stuff can be remolded to cover the > cracks.

Good Luck
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