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Fan controller

Reply #25 –
Yahoo Message Number: 76682
I have posted, a few months back, about an eradic temp guage on the Silver Leaf. (It will bounce from 191-195 down to 179 - 180. Some times staying on 180 and sometimes going back to 'normal). I had the motorhome service by the Cummins Service centre in Kansas City. They dismissed the problem and said not to worry about it. Well I do worry about it! Question - Could someone give me an approximate price and timeline to replace the Fan Controller. I'm being over careful simply because I want the REAL temputature on my Silver Leaf. We're about to come out of storage an I want to book the motorhome in for a full radiator flush.

Thanks.

Bruce 2001 Intrigue #11278

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Reply #26 –
Yahoo Message Number: 76683
If your temps are running around 180, then the air/coolant sensors or the controller is faulty. The sensors are around $25. The controller is around $500 for the part. Replacement is pretty straight forward on all three of these parts. I ordered the controller from a distributor in Atlanta, GA. It tooks about three weeks for the part to be delivered.

Rob

2002 Intrigue #11480

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Reply #27 –
Yahoo Message Number: 76684
Bruce, I believe your Fan Controller cost would be between $350 - $500, takes about an hour to replace cleaning all the connections well and putting some di-electric grease on them.
However, before consider this purchase did Cummins test your "Coolant Temp Sensor" and "Air Temp Sensor", either of these can be your problem and often are, they cost less than $50. I don't believe Cummins KC is a Coach Care facility and unfortunately blew you off.
If the Temps you state of 179-180 are with the Dash A/C off then the fan is running at full RPM an your engine is running to cool and using more fuel and HP going down the road.
If you start the engine from cold, crawl under coach and see if Fan is running at full RPM then you know for sure that one of three devices is bad Fan Controller, Coolant Temp Sensor and/or Air Temp Sensor. Sometimes there is a simple fix of pulling the Six Wire Connector apart and blowing out any dust placing some di-electric grease in the connection restart coach and see if fan is now at Idle RPM.

Thanks, Mike 03 Allure 1st Ave. #30898

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Reply #28 –
Yahoo Message Number: 76687
I was told by the folks at Iron Horse RV that if it's the Wax valve, you're looking at $600 and hope that the company has one in stock otherwise they're made to order(?)...
Bill, 05 Intrigue, #11881

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Reply #29 –
Yahoo Message Number: 76689
In both cases, it took over 6 weeks to get a controller. The first replacement was defective, too. It wouldn't allow the fan to reach full speed, when I had to climb a grade. Sauer-Danfoss, wanted me to send the defective replacement back for evaluation, which would have grounded me for 6 weeks. OMC, just sent me a new one and said they would handle the rest. Chris Snyder installed it for me and it took over an hour. It took Dave Remington about the same time and he had the advantage of the coach being on a lift.

TWI 2004 intrigue 11731

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Reply #30 –
Yahoo Message Number: 76694
Bruce,

You are getting the REAL temps on your Silverleaf. 191-195 is the normal operating range of the motor. The 180 readings are what you will get when the fan controller defaults to high. When the controller malfunctions, you will have the low temps as you indicated. Mine did the same thing and then finally died.
The cost to replace mine was in the 600 bux range and took aboult 1 1/2 hours at a Cummins shop. If you are close to any shop, it can be done very easily. There is nothing special about replacement. If you order the same part number thet is on your coach, it will come already programed. This is from a Sauer Danfoss engineer I talked to about my problem.

Don

'02 ntrigue #11427
'02 Intrigue #11427

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Reply #31 –
Yahoo Message Number: 76700
Bruce,

You can buy the Sauer Danfoss fan speed controller for $500 or maybe a little less. Labor should not exceed 2 real hours but I don't know what the book calls for. Mine has been replaced twice. The second time I have the fan shroud modified so that I can easily do it myself the next time.

Your symptoms are the classic early failure function.

Good luck.

George in Birmingham
'04 Allure 31038.
George in Birmingham
2003 Magna 6298

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Reply #32 –
Yahoo Message Number: 77001
You talked about the fan controller. Would you please give me more info on where you found it and also prices? I have already replaced the air sensor and temperature sensor with no improvement. We are in San Diego. Please get back to me.
2000 Intrigue
11098

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Reply #33 –
Yahoo Message Number: 77003
I bought my fan controller from these guys ($500). You'll need the full model/serial number off the unit. They know nothing about Country Coach or any motorhomes. They are a Sauer-Danfoss rep and will be able to get you the parts with the correct serial number.
http://www.bfpna.com/locations/locationInfo.asp?country=USA
Rob

2002 Intrigue #11480

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Reply #34 –
Yahoo Message Number: 77006
I bought mine for a C-9 from Berendsen Fluid Power for $385 in May of 2009.
1-800-360-2327 This may be the same guys that Rob gave you.
I think they have to special order them and mine took about 5 weeks.

Dan 2006 Allure 31348

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Reply #35 –
Yahoo Message Number: 78801
If I understand these posts correctly the normal temp should be appx 190. My 1999 330 ISC Cummins has always run about 180. There is no evidence that the fan is running at high speed at all times. I always thought 180 was the correct operating temp on this engine.

David White 99 Allure #30349

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Reply #36 –
Yahoo Message Number: 78802
David, the dash gauge and the temp sensor can have a + 10 or a -10 degree tolerance. So if both items are on the low side, you could possible see a 180 reading. The fan really doesn't have to run on the high setting to get the temps below 190-195. If, at idle, you put a 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper up against the grill and it stays there, something is wrong with the controller. Just make sure you don't have the air conditioner or the controls set to "vent" as that will raise the fan RPM also.

Don

'02 Intrigue #11427
'02 Intrigue #11427

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Reply #37 –
Yahoo Message Number: 78804
My 98 Allure ran at 180 degrees with an ISC 330, but the new er engines with the updated systems run at higher temps. My ISL runs at or around 195 to 200.
TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731

Fan controller

Reply #39 –
Yahoo Message Number: 79334
I have been reading the posts on the failure of the fan controller. Well, this trip it has happened to me.I am now stuck in high speed.
I am traveling to Phoenix to begin cancer treatment at Banner MD Anderson in Gilbert. Obviously, with my physical condition I am not going to be crawling under my coach. So I need the name of someone (maybe a mobile tech) that can replace the controller, and I need a source for the part. Any help?

Al Colby

2000 Intrigue 10979

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Reply #41 –
Yahoo Message Number: 79339
All

Chris Snyder, ex Country Coach, will come to you to replace the controller when you are in Gilbert. His number is 520-665-1014.

Brad Burgess
UTB 08 Intrigue

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Reply #42 –
Yahoo Message Number: 79360
Before replacing the controller, make sure your sensors area ok. I had both the coolant and air temperature sensors go out on my 2000 magna. Lots of information here as you are probably aware of. If you need to go and want to play fan controller yourself, You can put a switch in series with the fan controller fuse in your 12 volt front run panel and when the power is disabled to the controller, the fan will run on high. I did that but just found out if the power is disabled to the fan controller when I try to start he engine, nothing happens. I had turned the switch off by accident and then tried to start the coach. After thinking about what had changed in the last 5 minutes I checked the switch, turned the power back on and the engine started normally. Info is here in the group on that mod.
Also be aware that you must have the serial number from the old fan controller before ordering a new one as they are programmed for your specific set up.

pete

2000 40' Magna #5892
Pete
 2000 40'  Magna #5892  CAT C-10

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Reply #43 –
Yahoo Message Number: 79395
Al, the air sensor will cause the same symptom. I had to replace mine and a mobile tech could replace it. I do not have a source for the sensor, got my last one from CC for around $30 and Cummins replaced it while they were doing some preventive maintenance.

Ray

2000 Intrigue

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Reply #44 –
Yahoo Message Number: 79401
Ray & Al, as was posted Chris Snyder can diagnose if it is either the Coolant Sensor or Air Temp Sensor before spending money on the Fan Controller.
If you need the Coolant Sensor the Pt. #1090173, the Air Temp Sensor Pt. #1090174.
I just purchased an Air Temp Sensor from Colton Truck - Shawn @ $47.69 that included shipping to Texas, Ph:909-825-4080, you can also use Specialty Logistics in Oregon @ 541-515-6651 ask for Tim

Al, Best of Luck with your Treatments.

Thanks, Mike 03 Allure 1st Ave. #30898

Fan controller

Reply #45 –
Yahoo Message Number: 95881
In need of a fan controller for my 2006 CC Intrigue. Anyone have knowledge on where to purchase one?

Joe Stevener 2006 Intrigue 12054

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Reply #46 –
Yahoo Message Number: 95883
Here's wher I got mine.

Larry 03 Allure 30856

Berendsen Fluid Power

Chuck Credille

Inside Sales
Tel: 770-419-3430
Fax: 770-419-3439
Email: chuck.credille@...
 

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Reply #48 –
Yahoo Message Number: 95902
Joe

Colton Truck Terminal usually has some in stock. You will pay for the convenience of not waiting several weeks to order one. I got mine from Berendsen Fluid Power Systems. Also, CAT and Cummings are different.

Dan 2006 Allure 31348