Re: Coolant Reply #25 – May 23, 2008, 08:21:43 am Yahoo Message Number: 38863What did Lazy Days get for it and was it concentrate or pre-diluted? What it currently costs to drive to Tampa from Leesburg makes shipping charges (for the time being) a viable alternative if the prices are competitive.Bob'05 Inspire 51178 Quote Selected
Re: Coolant Reply #26 – May 23, 2008, 09:50:45 am Yahoo Message Number: 38866Thanks for that reply. I also called CC and they confirmed what you state but they didn't tell me about the PG part. They also stated the same coolant is used in the generator. I'm off today to find some..............Judy2006 Inspire 51706 Quote Selected
Re: Coolant Reply #27 – May 23, 2008, 10:04:00 am Yahoo Message Number: 38867Everything in this message is correct, except that Fleetguard ES Compleat PG (propylene glycol) and Fleetguard ES Compleat EG (ethylene glycol) CAN be mixed without any damage resulting. I have asked this question repeatedly of service managers at Cummins Coach Care facilities and they all say that the two are interchangeable. The only advantage to PG is that it is less poisonous than ethylene glycol. I was once told by a factory rep that they are required to use PG because of Oregon environmental laws. Otherwise, they would use the EG since it is less expensive. I used a mix (not intentionally) of EG and PG in my '99 Allure for 95,000 miles with no harm, and my business partner now has that coach and it runs perfectly at 120,000 miles. I have also used a mixture in my '05 Intrigue with no ill effects.Brian Davis '05 Intrigue Coach #11901 Quote Selected
Re: Coolant Reply #28 – May 23, 2008, 10:26:41 am Yahoo Message Number: 38868I've also run a PG / EG mix due thanks to an ill-informed service tech and it caused no problems. Bob'05 Intrigue 11872 Quote Selected
Re: Coolant Reply #29 – May 23, 2008, 11:44:05 am Yahoo Message Number: 38872Quote from: JudyI have a 2006 Inspire with a CAT C-9. Can someone tell what type of coolant this engine takes? Also what type of coolant goes into the genset.Judy2006 Inspire 51706Yes, as verified by Onan, the genset can take regular automotive antifreeze.George Harper 04 Allure Seaside 31093 Rome, GA Quote Selected
Re: Coolant Reply #30 – May 23, 2008, 11:54:04 am Yahoo Message Number: 38874I just had the coolant changed in the Coburg Coach Care facility. They filled with the EG so the statement about OR eviromental laws isn't correct. In fact, I was told tha CC buys EG from them for new builds.The Eg and PG are totally compatible with each other. The EG was a little over 16 bucks/gal if you are a member of their club.Don'02Intrigue #11427 Quote Selected
Re: Coolant Reply #31 – May 23, 2008, 01:31:32 pm Yahoo Message Number: 38882I assume that is the diluted 50/50 solution? Or the concentrate? Thanks for the info on mixing. If I can avoid mixing any fluids I do so but nice to know it is OK EG vs PG. I would prefer the concentrate over the ready to pour solely for storage space considerations - 36' and 4 slides makes things a bit tight and one can get distilled water most anywhere.Bob'05 Inspire 51178Bob Handren'05 Country Coach Inspire 51178 '00 JGCL Quote Selected
Coolant Reply #32 – September 15, 2009, 08:07:33 pm Yahoo Message Number: 51880Just courious about the coolant. What happens if you just leave in water? I am sure in the winter there would be a problem, other than that does the coolant at like a lubricate, it seems very sticky, and sweet smelling. I am having my repair done on the blow hose, and I was just wondering what my hurry was?Sincerely,Jim SpiveyAllure 470 31432 Quote Selected
Re: Coolant Reply #33 – September 15, 2009, 08:31:56 pm Yahoo Message Number: 51881Spivey:It prevents corrosion and cavitation.JB06 Allure 31309 Quote Selected
Re: Coolant Reply #34 – September 15, 2009, 09:06:01 pm Yahoo Message Number: 51883Cavitation causes eventual destruction of the cylinder walls. Plain water is actually better at cooling/heat transfer, race engines don't use much else but they don't run long enough to suffer the other consequences. You don't have a race engine, it needs the proper coolant.Bob Handren Inspire 51178 Quote Selected
Coolant Reply #35 – August 16, 2010, 07:39:13 pm Yahoo Message Number: 62483I always carry a container of coolant for those 'just in case' times. (Although I always seem to be topping up the plastic reservoir). However I never seem to be able to get the same brand/type as we travel all over the country. Green-red. Mixed-concentrate.How critical is it to use the same coolant every time?Bruce2001 Intrigue #11278 Quote Selected
Re: Coolant Reply #36 – August 16, 2010, 08:52:02 pm Yahoo Message Number: 62488Bruce: Once you have switched to the long life ethylene glycol, you do not want to use the old green propylene glycol again. The first time, the coolant system has to be thoroughly flushed and the filter replaced. If you are still using propylene glycol, I don't think adding ethylene glycol would hurt, but I don't know that for a fact. In any case, you should have your coolant checked to see if it needs to be replaced. Failure to do so can cause micro bubbles to form on the cylinder walls, and can, eventually, lead to pinholes burned through. Not pretty and not cheap to fix. Cheap insurance to have it checked and changed if necessary.Al Colby2000 Intrigue 10979 Quote Selected
Re: Coolant Reply #37 – August 17, 2010, 01:57:13 pm Yahoo Message Number: 62513 I always carry a container of coolant for those 'just in case' times. (Although I always seem to be topping up the plastic reservoir). However I never seem to be able to get the same brand/type as we travel all over the country. Green-red. Mixed-concentrate. Quote Selected
Coolant Reply #38 – September 12, 2013, 07:29:31 pm Yahoo Message Number: 91391My coolant level appears to be low. I cannot see anything in the eye on the coolant reservoir. Does anyone know if I can top off the coolant level with CAT ELC coolant. I am not sure what the original coolant was. I have a 2005 Inspire with 47,000 miles.Tom2005 Inspire 51177 Quote Selected
Re: Coolant Reply #39 – September 12, 2013, 09:09:55 pm Yahoo Message Number: 91395Is your coolant green or reddish/orange? Quote Selected
Re: Coolant Reply #40 – September 12, 2013, 11:28:15 pm Yahoo Message Number: 91397 If it is still the factory installed coolant they used fleetguard extended life. It is kind of blue in color. Dave2005 Allure 31284 Quote Selected
Re: Coolant Reply #41 – September 13, 2013, 08:28:44 am Yahoo Message Number: 91399TomYour coolant is probably Cummins ELC Complete. CC used ELC Complete in both the CAT and Cummings engines. You can buy is premixed at any Cummings Shop.ELC Complete is blue in color and I believe CAT is orange.Dan 2006 Allure 31348 C-9 - ELC Complete Quote Selected
Re: Coolant Reply #42 – September 13, 2013, 01:11:32 pm Yahoo Message Number: 91402CAT ELC is red. It looks wonderful all over the front of a silver toad. Quote Selected