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Re: Coolant

Reply #25
Yahoo Message Number: 38863
What did Lazy Days get for it and was it concentrate or pre-diluted? What it currently costs to drive to Tampa from Leesburg makes shipping charges (for the time being) a viable alternative if the prices are competitive.

Bob

'05 Inspire 51178

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Reply #26
Yahoo Message Number: 38866
Thanks for that reply. I also called CC and they confirmed what you state but they didn't tell me about the PG part. They also stated the same coolant is used in the generator. I'm off today to find some..............

Judy

2006 Inspire 51706

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Reply #27
Yahoo Message Number: 38867
Everything in this message is correct, except that Fleetguard ES Compleat PG (propylene glycol) and Fleetguard ES Compleat EG (ethylene glycol) CAN be mixed without any damage resulting. I have asked this question repeatedly of service managers at Cummins Coach Care facilities and they all say that the two are interchangeable. The only advantage to PG is that it is less poisonous than ethylene glycol. I was once told by a factory rep that they are required to use PG because of Oregon environmental laws. Otherwise, they would use the EG since it is less expensive.
I used a mix (not intentionally) of EG and PG in my '99 Allure for 95,000 miles with no harm, and my business partner now has that coach and it runs perfectly at 120,000 miles. I have also used a mixture in my '05 Intrigue with no ill effects.

Brian Davis
'05 Intrigue
Coach #11901

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Reply #28
Yahoo Message Number: 38868
I've also run a PG / EG mix due thanks to an ill-informed service tech and it caused no problems.
Bob

'05 Intrigue 11872

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Reply #29
Yahoo Message Number: 38872
Quote from: Judy
I have a 2006 Inspire with a CAT C-9. Can someone tell what type of coolant this engine takes? Also what type of coolant goes into the genset.

Judy

2006 Inspire 51706
Yes, as verified by Onan, the genset can take regular automotive antifreeze.

George Harper
04 Allure Seaside
31093
Rome, GA

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Reply #30
Yahoo Message Number: 38874
I just had the coolant changed in the Coburg Coach Care facility. They filled with the EG so the statement about OR eviromental laws isn't correct. In fact, I was told tha CC buys EG from them for new builds.

The Eg and PG are totally compatible with each other.
The EG was a little over 16 bucks/gal if you are a member of their club.

Don

'02Intrigue #11427
'02 Intrigue #11427

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Reply #31
Yahoo Message Number: 38882
I assume that is the diluted 50/50 solution? Or the concentrate?
Thanks for the info on mixing. If I can avoid mixing any fluids I do so but nice to know it is OK EG vs PG. I would prefer the concentrate over the ready to pour solely for storage space considerations - 36' and 4 slides makes things a bit tight and one can get distilled water most anywhere.

Bob

'05 Inspire 51178

Bob Handren

'05 Country Coach Inspire 51178
'00 JGCL

Coolant

Reply #32
Yahoo Message Number: 51880
Just courious about the coolant. What happens if you just leave in water? I am sure in the winter there would be a problem, other than that does the coolant at like a lubricate, it seems very sticky, and sweet smelling. I am having my repair done on the blow hose, and I was just wondering what my hurry was?

Sincerely,

Jim Spivey

Allure 470 31432


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Reply #34
Yahoo Message Number: 51883
Cavitation causes eventual destruction of the cylinder walls. Plain water is actually better at cooling/heat transfer, race engines don't use much else but they don't run long enough to suffer the other consequences. You don't have a race engine, it needs the proper coolant.

Bob Handren
Inspire 51178

Coolant

Reply #35
Yahoo Message Number: 62483
I always carry a container of coolant for those 'just in case' times. (Although I always seem to be topping up the plastic reservoir). However I never seem to be able to get the same brand/type as we travel all over the country. Green-red. Mixed-concentrate.

How critical is it to use the same coolant every time?

Bruce

2001 Intrigue #11278

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Reply #36
Yahoo Message Number: 62488
Bruce: Once you have switched to the long life ethylene glycol, you do not want to use the old green propylene glycol again. The first time, the coolant system has to be thoroughly flushed and the filter replaced. If you are still using propylene glycol, I don't think adding ethylene glycol would hurt, but I don't know that for a fact.
In any case, you should have your coolant checked to see if it needs to be replaced. Failure to do so can cause micro bubbles to form on the cylinder walls, and can, eventually, lead to pinholes burned through. Not pretty and not cheap to fix. Cheap insurance to have it checked and changed if necessary.

Al Colby

2000 Intrigue 10979

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Reply #37
Yahoo Message Number: 62513
I always carry a container of coolant for those 'just in case' times. (Although I always seem to be topping up the plastic reservoir). However I never seem to be able to get the same brand/type as we travel all over the country. Green-red. Mixed-concentrate.

Coolant

Reply #38
Yahoo Message Number: 91391
My coolant level appears to be low. I cannot see anything in the eye on the coolant reservoir. Does anyone know if I can top off the coolant level with CAT ELC coolant. I am not sure what the original coolant was. I have a 2005 Inspire with 47,000 miles.

Tom

2005 Inspire 51177


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Reply #40
Yahoo Message Number: 91397
If it is still the factory installed coolant they used fleetguard extended life. It is kind of blue in color.
Dave

2005 Allure
31284


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Reply #41
Yahoo Message Number: 91399
Tom

Your coolant is probably Cummins ELC Complete. CC used ELC Complete in both the CAT and Cummings engines. You can buy is premixed at any Cummings Shop.

ELC Complete is blue in color and I believe CAT is orange.

Dan 2006 Allure 31348 C-9 - ELC Complete