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Won't start, won't crank no lights on transmission pad

Yahoo Message Number: 95285
I'm broke down with a 2000 Magna that won't start. It is dead. Turn the key, no dash instruments, no transmission lights on the shift pad, and no engine cranking.

I've checked all the obvious, at least to me. The fuse in the rear passenger compartment for the VIM is good as are the other two fuses located there. The 7.5 amp fuse that we all think is for the fan controller but also goes to the Allison control unit is good. I've checked the wiring at the ignition switch and I'm getting power and the switch is functioning properly. The first thing I checked were the circuit breakers to the batteries, they were not tripped. My Link 2000 says I have good battery voltage and using the boost switch doesn't help.

The Silverleaf JIB attached to my computer shows I'm getting engine and oil temperatures but no transmission temperature. So I assume the ECM is getting powered since I'm getting data on the data bus.

Any suggestions on where to look next? I'm at a service facility now but there labor rate is $130/hr and I would like to reduce the number of hours if possible.

pete

2000 40' Magna CAT C10, #5892
Pete
 2000 40'  Magna #5892  CAT C-10

Re: Won't start, won't crank no lights on transmission pad

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 95286
Do you have an ignition solenoid behind the dash panel? ( The panel in front of the passenger seat)

Dave

2000 Allure #30444

Re: Won't start, won't crank no lights on transmission pad

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 95289
With the help of Fred Sage, I've located the ignition solenoid and believe it is the problem. On my coach it is in the box with the front run fuse panel. I really need to either use a large size wire jumper to connect the two leads or have a new solenoid to try. In my previous post I didn't mention that the center strip row of led's for the fuses in the front run fuse panel were not lit. I used a jumper of insufficient size to jump across the solenoid and the led's lit briefly. That's about as long as I dared use the small gage wire and even with a brief one or two second connection I began to melt the insulation.

Tomorrow will be an attempt to replace the ignition solenoid.

pete

2000 40' Magna CAT C10, #5892
Pete
 2000 40'  Magna #5892  CAT C-10

Re: Won't start, won't crank no lights on transmission pad

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 95291
Pete, Your symptoms sound the same as I experienced in my 2001 intrigue. Butch Williams directed me to the ignition relay, which on my coach is in a panel directly in front of the passenger seat under the dash. A small silver relay, four posts about the size of a large egg. Very easy to change for someone with even my limited mechanical capability

Denny

2001 36ft Intrigue
11271.

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Re: Won't start, won't crank no lights on transmission pad

Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 95292
? I had a similar problem but I believe I had instrument lights but no transmission lights and it wouldn't start. It ended up being a loss of one of the power connections to the transmission keypad. There was power to some of the connections but one was missing. I thought it was a bad keypad or bad computer at first. I had an Allision transmission tech connect his computer up to the terminal and he found it right away. He then just ran another power line to the pad from the compartment to the left of the drivers seat. Still cost $500.

Glen

2008 Allure 470

On 06 May 2014 14:45:31 -0700 pfhays@...> writes:
 

Re: Won't start, won't crank no lights on transmission pad

Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 95311
Ignition relay replace and all is well. Thanks all for the help

pete,

2000 40' Magna CAT C10, #5892
Pete
 2000 40'  Magna #5892  CAT C-10