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98 Allue info please:

Yahoo Message Number: 10561
Hi all.

We went to a local dealer yesterday, (JUST TO LOOK), at a 98 Allue that they just got in. I thought that it would be another disappointing trip to an overly aggresive dealer trying to get top dollar for another (beat down) unit. Boy were we pleasently supprised.
The coach is a 98 Allue, 36', 325 Cummins, 41k, 7k Powertec gen set, non-slide, in beautiful condition. Extremely clean, and well maintained. We are so excited. I never thought we would have a chance to get a C C , but this is within our reach. We are both 46, and so we have a ways to go before retirement. We currently camp on weekends, with an occational long trip, here and there. This should serve us nicely.

If you bear with me, I have a few questions. Like some, I have been lurking on this board, on and off, for approx 1 1/2 yrs. I have spoken to Country Coach reps at the Harrisburg RV Shows, and also received the Destinations Magazine for a time, (the factory sent them to me), so I have some working knowledge of Country Coach, and their quality, service, etc.

Okay, here's the questions. What is the foot pedal on the left side of the floor, left of the brake? Is that the exhaust brake? I didn't see one on the dash any where.

What about the powertec Gen set. Is it as quite as the Onan. I'm not familar with them. Can you give me any info. It looks like it has a radiator with it.(only 135 hrs though).

What is the wheel cut on both sides?
There seems to be a small inverter on a panel next to the sink. What is that for. I thought these coaches came with big inverters, but I could'nt find one.

Also, how do you keep the Coach Armor clean?

There is an hour meter in the rpm gauge. What is that for? I'm guessing the hours on the engine?

I read alot about recalls from the factory. Where do you get the recall work done, factory, dealer? I read about a post for the Toyo tire recall, but I cannot find it. Can you fill me in on it?

Two areas of concern:

There seems to be a hairline crack that is approx 16 inches, from the front clearance lights on the roof. It seems to go the lenght of the roof cap, from left to right. The dealer assures us that he can fix it. Don't know how long it's been there. Any ideas what could of caused this? Any need for concern? Also the battery's seem to have a problem. The engine started, but we could not get the generator to start. It seems that the battery's were low and would not charge. On the panel, the meter read on the lowest setting, 10 volts I believe.
All of the cutoff switches were on. When we tried to start the gen set, some of the lights that we on went dim. Dealer said it was probably a bad switch, again it would be taken care of.

Sorry about all the questions, but we are trying to educate ourseleves very quickly. We are going to make an offer very soon.
Thanks in advance Steve

Re: 98 Allue info please:

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10562
I think some answers could be better provided if we knew the name of the dealership. That way we can let you know if we have had experience with them and if it was good or bad.

Carol

'04 Inspire Genoa
'03 Explorer
Fulltimer

Re: 98 Allue info please:

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10563
Quote from: jennylindca
I think some answers could be better provided if we knew the name

of

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the dealership. That way we can let you know if we have had > experience with them and if it was good or bad.

Carol

'04 Inspire Genoa
'03 Explorer
Fulltimer
The dealer is Media Camping Center in Pa.

Re: 98 Allue info please:

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10564
Quote from: jennylindca
I think some answers could be better provided if we knew the name

of

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the dealership. That way we can let you know if we have had > experience with them and if it was good or bad.

Carol

'04 Inspire Genoa
'03 Explorer
Fulltimer
The dealer is Media Camping Center in Pa.

Re: 98 Allue info please:

Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10565
Steve

We bought a 98 Intrigue 36' , no slide last fall with about 40,000 miles and the Powertech genset.
We have a friend who has a 98 SOB with the Onan quiet set. His genset is quieter than ours, not that ours is nasty but it is not as quiet as the Onan unit.
We also have the Cumins 325. We are very pleased with the coach.
Good luck, I hope this works for you.
Mike

98 Intrigue 36'
2000 CRV

Re: 98 Allue info please:

Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10566
From: "shatfieldj" Shatfieldj@...>

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(snip) The dealer is Media Camping Center in Pa.
They have several locations. We bought our old/former Minnie Winnie Class C at their Fairless Hills, PA, location in April 2000 and it was a pleasant experience during the three years we owned it. And we got great service after the sale. The dealership is absolutely nothing to look at, but they were functionally great. And that's all that counts to me.

Dick (& Geri) Campagna
'98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97

Re: 98 Allue info please:

Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10567
From: "shatfieldj" Shatfieldj@...> (snip) > What about the powertec Gen set. Is it as quite as the Onan. I'm not

familar with them. Can you give me any info. It looks like it has a radiator with it.(only 135 hrs though).
We bought our '98 Intrigue privately in June '03. Its Powertech 7K isn't as quiet as the Onan QD, but isn't bad. We use an 11' rubber garage hose, made for exhaust, to run the stink and noise towards the rear of the coach when we're dry camping alongside someone. Bought it at a NAPA store.

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Also, how do you keep the Coach Armor clean?
It is a pain. However ... when driving past probably 1,000 (no exaggeration) rubber highway cones at a construction site, I hit one of the last ones and broke the right side of the lower Coach Armor panel. After agonizing on what to do ... what to do ... I simply removed it, threw it away, and improved the coach's front end appearance tremendously. The top section is still a pain, but at least I eliminated the bottom section. The wrinkle finish on the front fake-bumper protrusion is resistant against stone chips, by the way, so I'm happy with my decision.

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There seems to be a hairline crack that is approx 16 inches, from the
front clearance lights on the roof. It seems to go the lenght of the roof cap, from left to right.

I remember reading about this problem, but don't have it on ours. If we do, I'll deal with a local place that repairs fiberglass boats. Suggest that you check the archives for past messages which may help.

Dick (& Geri) Campagna
'98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97

Re: 98 Allue info please:

Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10568
Hi Steve,

Sounds like you found a 98-36' Allure Klamath, nice coach. I would guess the previous or original owner installed a foot activated pac brake switch on the floor, this was probably an aftermarket install. PowerTech makes a great gen, if not the best. It will not be as quiet as the Onan but its not bad as the rpm's are steady at 1800. The 135 hours on your gen is nothing. Wheel cut is approx. 45 degrees right or left. The small inverter by the sink is either an add on or a mistake. If this coach has the "option" for the Heart 2000 watt inverter and 2nd house battery, there would be a small "on- off" inverter switch on the galley cabinet face just below the countertop (facing the dinette), its black with blue lettering. I would have the dealer get you the original build sheet, that would answer a lot of your questions. CC could also fax you a 1998 brochure which would help. The hour meter in the RPM gauge represents the hours on your Cummins engine. Recalls are done at dealers or the factory depending on your location. CC would be able to inform you or Media if the tire recall was completed. If it has Continental tires up front the recall was done. CC used both Continental tires and Toyo tires during the recall. If it has Toyo's then you would need to check with CC or have Media check.
The hairline crack on your roof happened quite often, it is where the roof and front cap were seemed together, not a big deal to repair. Check the inside front cab area really good for leaks, open all the cabinets, etc. Your house battery(s) were dead.

On a side note, I have a customer in Richboro who owns a 2003-45' Lexa, which ever Media is closest to Richboro has done some great service for him on his Lexa.

Good Luck,

Damon

Re: 98 Allue info please:

Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10576
One point on the no start generator, sounds like house batteries are dead and possibly need to be replaced. You can jump start the generator by jumping from chassis battery to house batteries. I've done this several times when my house batteries were dead. I've replaced the house batteries with 6 six volt batteries wired to give me the equivalent of 3 12 volt batteries. I've never had a house battery problem since installing the 6 volt batteries.

You'll find that the hairline cracks are pretty common on CC rigs, I've had the one you mentioned plus one on the rear of the coach around the engine access door frame. Also check the sidewalls very carefull for evidence of fiberglass delamination, it will probably show up as cracks in the dark painted areas. You might also carefully check the entry door for evidence of electrolysis damage, it will look like small or large bubbles under the paint. I'd recommend that you get an independent rv tech really check out the rig before you buy, there could be many small defects that an experienced eye might catch so that you can get the dealer to take care of them...unfortunately the small defects are not cheap to fix as most service centers are now charging close to $90 to $100. an hour and it seems they always take several hours longer to fix something than you would expect. One thing you might want to check is to see that the cooling fan is working properly, if it blows massive amounts of dust when you drive over a dusty road then the fan probably is not cycling off as it should at low temp conditions, this has been a common problem on many CC built units and there seems to be no sure fix for the problem. The problem appears to be a faulty program in the fan controller and it is obivously very difficult to fix as many folks have tried various patches to fix it.
Maybe Media has a tech who knows how to take care of this problem if this rig has the problem. CC factory attempted to fix mine the while I was in Junction City recently but they actually made the problem worse as now the fan does not go into High speed until the overheat light comes on. I'm still working this problem and will be sending the fan controller back to CC for another try at getting it working properly.

If you are able to buy an extended service policy at a reasonable price I'd recommend that also, you'll probably need it at some point down the road.
Ray

2000 CC Intrigue

Quote from: shatfieldj

Hi all.

We went to a local dealer yesterday, (JUST TO LOOK), at a 98 Allue > that they just got in. I thought that it would be another > disappointing trip to an overly aggresive dealer trying to get top > dollar for another (beat down) unit. Boy were we pleasently

supprised.

Quote
>

The coach is a 98 Allue, 36', 325 Cummins, 41k, 7k Powertec gen

set,

Quote
non-slide, in beautiful condition. Extremely clean, and well > maintained. We are so excited. I never thought we would have a

chance

Quote
to get a C C , but this is within our reach. We are both 46, and

so

Quote
we have a ways to go before retirement. We currently camp on > weekends, with an occational long trip, here and there. This

should

Quote
serve us nicely.

If you bear with me, I have a few questions. Like some, I have

been

Quote
lurking on this board, on and off, for approx 1 1/2 yrs. I have > spoken to Country Coach reps at the Harrisburg RV Shows, and also > received the Destinations Magazine for a time, (the factory sent

them

Quote
to me), so I have some working knowledge of Country Coach, and

their

Quote
quality, service, etc.

Okay, here's the questions. What is the foot pedal on the left

side

Quote
of the floor, left of the brake? Is that the exhaust brake? I

didn't

Quote
see one on the dash any where.

What about the powertec Gen set. Is it as quite as the Onan. I'm

not

Quote
familar with them. Can you give me any info. It looks like it has

a

Quote
radiator with it.(only 135 hrs though).

What is the wheel cut on both sides? >

There seems to be a small inverter on a panel next to the sink.

What

Quote
is that for. I thought these coaches came with big inverters, but

I

Quote
could'nt find one.

Also, how do you keep the Coach Armor clean? >

There is an hour meter in the rpm gauge. What is that for? I'm > guessing the hours on the engine? >

I read alot about recalls from the factory. Where do you get the > recall work done, factory, dealer? I read about a post for the

Toyo

Quote
tire recall, but I cannot find it. Can you fill me in on it? >

Two areas of concern:

There seems to be a hairline crack that is approx 16 inches, from

the

Quote
front clearance lights on the roof. It seems to go the lenght of

the

Quote
roof cap, from left to right. The dealer assures us that he can

fix

Quote
it. Don't know how long it's been there. Any ideas what could of > caused this? Any need for concern? Also the battery's seem to

have a

Quote
problem. The engine started, but we could not get the generator to > start. It seems that the battery's were low and would not charge.

On

Quote
the panel, the meter read on the lowest setting, 10 volts I

believe.

Quote
All of the cutoff switches were on. When we tried to start the gen > set, some of the lights that we on went dim. Dealer said it was > probably a bad switch, again it would be taken care of.

Sorry about all the questions, but we are trying to educate > ourseleves very quickly. We are going to make an offer very

soon.

Re: 98 Allue info please:

Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10579
Steve -

We'll be staying in Hatfield for one of our kid's weddings in Sept but I guess that would be too late for you to have a look at our coach to compare! We bought with 70,000 miles on ours and have put 5K more on and are very happy with it.

There have been many excellent posts in response to your questions but I would add that you should just get the coach number (see the inside of bathroom cabinet door) and call or email CC tech support. They will tell you about the recalls and answer your questions.

The inverter - if it exists - is behind a panel in the top of the battery compartment. I doubt the gen switch is bad - as someone else pointed out it's probably the house batteries. I have a tiny bit of the dreaded electrolysis on the door and am not concerned as it hasn't changed. There is probably also an exhaust brake switch on the driver's console - I agree the pedal is after-market.
We have the same genset and while not exactly quiet, it isn't too bad.
Re: the Coach Armor - it's a pain and I don't think I would choose it but I just hose it down as best I can and drop the top piece as a project in FL and clean behind it.

If you want to talk price feel free to drop me an email.

Dave

'98 Allure 36 #30187

Quote from: shatfieldj

To Travman100....Regarding Engine Cooling Fan

Reply #10 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10586
Travman100,

I've had this unit for a year now. I've suspected that the engine cooling fan is not operating correctly. Going down flat road it works fine. But when I hit steep hills, especially on hot days (over 95 degrees), my temp starts to climb. And usually if you pull over and idle a diesel, it will cool off almost instantly, but mine doesn't. It will actually just keep getting hotter. I have a theory that my high speed function doesn't work....but it is only a theory. I am sure there is a way of testing it. Anyone out there been down this road? I am a "do it yourself" kind of guy so "take it to a repair shop" is not the answer that I am looking for.

Thanks,
Mike

'95 Intrigue 10061

Quote from: travman100
One point on the no start generator, sounds like house batteries

are

Quote
dead and possibly need to be replaced. You can jump start the > generator by jumping from chassis battery to house batteries. I've > done this several times when my house batteries were dead. I've > replaced the house batteries with 6 six volt batteries wired to

give

Quote
me the equivalent of 3 12 volt batteries. I've never had a house > battery problem since installing the 6 volt batteries.

You'll find that the hairline cracks are pretty common on CC rigs, > I've had the one you mentioned plus one on the rear of the coach > around the engine access door frame. Also check the sidewalls very > carefull for evidence of fiberglass delamination, it will probably > show up as cracks in the dark painted areas. You might also > carefully check the entry door for evidence of electrolysis

damage,

Quote
it will look like small or large bubbles under the paint. I'd > recommend that you get an independent rv tech really check out the > rig before you buy, there could be many small defects that an > experienced eye might catch so that you can get the dealer to take > care of them...unfortunately the small defects are not cheap to

fix

Quote
as most service centers are now charging close to $90 to $100. an > hour and it seems they always take several hours longer to fix > something than you would expect. One thing you might want to check > is to see that the cooling fan is working properly, if it blows > massive amounts of dust when you drive over a dusty road then the > fan probably is not cycling off as it should at low temp

conditions,

Quote
this has been a common problem on many CC built units and there > seems to be no sure fix for the problem. The problem appears to be

a

Quote
faulty program in the fan controller and it is obivously very > difficult to fix as many folks have tried various patches to fix

it.

Quote
Maybe Media has a tech who knows how to take care of this problem

if

Quote
this rig has the problem. CC factory attempted to fix mine the

while

Quote
I was in Junction City recently but they actually made the problem > worse as now the fan does not go into High speed until the

overheat

Quote
light comes on. I'm still working this problem and will be sending > the fan controller back to CC for another try at getting it

working

Quote
properly.

If you are able to buy an extended service policy at a reasonable > price I'd recommend that also, you'll probably need it at some

point

Quote
down the road.

Ray

2000 CC Intrigue

[quote author=shatfieldj"

> Hi all.
>

> We went to a local dealer yesterday, (JUST TO LOOK), at a 98

Allue

Quote
that they just got in. I thought that it would be another > > disappointing trip to an overly aggresive dealer trying to get

top

Quote
dollar for another (beat down) unit. Boy were we pleasently > supprised.
>

> The coach is a 98 Allue, 36', 325 Cummins, 41k, 7k Powertec gen > set,

> non-slide, in beautiful condition. Extremely clean, and well > > maintained. We are so excited. I never thought we would have a > chance

> to get a C C , but this is within our reach. We are both 46, and > so

> we have a ways to go before retirement. We currently camp on > > weekends, with an occational long trip, here and there. This > should

> serve us nicely.
>

> If you bear with me, I have a few questions. Like some, I have > been

> lurking on this board, on and off, for approx 1 1/2 yrs. I have > > spoken to Country Coach reps at the Harrisburg RV Shows, and

also

Quote
received the Destinations Magazine for a time, (the factory sent > them

> to me), so I have some working knowledge of Country Coach, and > their

> quality, service, etc.
>

> Okay, here's the questions. What is the foot pedal on the left > side

> of the floor, left of the brake? Is that the exhaust brake? I > didn't

> see one on the dash any where.
>

> What about the powertec Gen set. Is it as quite as the Onan. I'm > not

> familar with them. Can you give me any info. It looks like it

has

Quote
a

> radiator with it.(only 135 hrs though).
>

> What is the wheel cut on both sides? > >

> There seems to be a small inverter on a panel next to the sink.
What

> is that for. I thought these coaches came with big inverters,

but

Quote
I

> could'nt find one.
>

> Also, how do you keep the Coach Armor clean? > >

> There is an hour meter in the rpm gauge. What is that for? I'm > > guessing the hours on the engine? > >

> I read alot about recalls from the factory. Where do you get the > > recall work done, factory, dealer? I read about a post for the > Toyo

> tire recall, but I cannot find it. Can you fill me in on it? > >

> Two areas of concern:
>

> There seems to be a hairline crack that is approx 16 inches,

from

Quote
the

> front clearance lights on the roof. It seems to go the lenght of > the

> roof cap, from left to right. The dealer assures us that he can > fix

> it. Don't know how long it's been there. Any ideas what could of > > caused this? Any need for concern? Also the battery's seem to > have a

> problem. The engine started, but we could not get the generator

to

Quote
start. It seems that the battery's were low and would not

charge.

Quote
On

> the panel, the meter read on the lowest setting, 10 volts I > believe.

> All of the cutoff switches were on. When we tried to start the

gen

Re: To Travman100....Regarding Engine Cooling Fan

Reply #11 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10588
Mike: I recently tried to remedy the "fan dust storm" problem by replacing the fan thermostat in my 99 model. Since yours is a 95, it's probably like mine and too old for the newer electroniclly controlled fan system.
The manual version of the fan thermostat is a hydraulic thermostat that mounts right under the upper radiator hose. The hydraulic lines run through it. As the fluid in the top of the radiator heats, the valve opens and allows the fluid to pass through and operate the fan.
It's a nasty thing to change because of it's location. You have to remove the aluminum charge air duct for access. Once there, you must drain/catch the hydraulic fluid or plug the lines, plus draining the engine coolant down to a sufficient level to allow the thermostat to be removed.
In my case, I managed to punch a hole in the upper hose while twisting on the thermostat, so I had to change it also. Real fun.
If you have a few hours to kill and feel like a real challenge, it's a shade-tree job. Not much technical knowledge, just lots of skinned knuckles and occasional defiling the air with curses.

Larry
Intrigue
10762

Re: To Travman100....Regarding Engine Cooling Fan

Reply #12 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10591
I can actually get mine to cool back down by making sure I keep the RPMs up by gearing down manually, whenever I start up a grade, I keep a close eye on the temp gauge and as it starts getting up into an area where the light is about to come, starts flickering, I gear down to bring rpms up, that usually does the trick. I will really test it out within the next two weeks as I am heading into Colorado and will probably see some very steep climbs over there. One other trick that I can do is if I see the gear down isn't working, then I can simply disconnect the 6 wire connector from the controller and then the fan defaults to High Speed....I need a manual switch so that I can disconnect the 6 wire connection without leaving the coach but for now, I just crawl under the coach and disconnect the plug. Of course then I have the dust storm again but no over heating problem. There has to be someone in the RV world who can fix this problem, I just haven't found them yet. Since the fan will default to high speed without controller connected then I think the controller will turn out to be the culprit...mine has a new controller just installed last month in Junction City, this did fix the continous high speed problem but it induced the problem of not engaging fan to high speed as engine temp rises.

Ray

2000 CC Intrigue

Quote from: faa_engineer
> Travman100,

I've had this unit for a year now. I've suspected that the engine > cooling fan is not operating correctly. Going down flat road it > works fine. But when I hit steep hills, especially on hot days > (over 95 degrees), my temp starts to climb. And usually if you

pull

Quote
over and idle a diesel, it will cool off almost instantly, but

mine

Quote
doesn't. It will actually just keep getting hotter. I have a > theory that my high speed function doesn't work....but it is only

a

Quote
theory. I am sure there is a way of testing it. Anyone out there > been down this road? I am a "do it yourself" kind of guy so "take > it to a repair shop" is not the answer that I am looking for.

Thanks,

Mike

'95 Intrigue 10061

[quote author=travman100"

> One point on the no start generator, sounds like house batteries > are

> dead and possibly need to be replaced. You can jump start the > > generator by jumping from chassis battery to house batteries.

I've

Quote
done this several times when my house batteries were dead. I've > > replaced the house batteries with 6 six volt batteries wired to > give

> me the equivalent of 3 12 volt batteries. I've never had a house > > battery problem since installing the 6 volt batteries.
>

> You'll find that the hairline cracks are pretty common on CC

rigs,

Quote
I've had the one you mentioned plus one on the rear of the coach > > around the engine access door frame. Also check the sidewalls

very

Quote
carefull for evidence of fiberglass delamination, it will

probably

Quote
show up as cracks in the dark painted areas. You might also > > carefully check the entry door for evidence of electrolysis > damage,

> it will look like small or large bubbles under the paint. I'd > > recommend that you get an independent rv tech really check out

the

Quote
rig before you buy, there could be many small defects that an > > experienced eye might catch so that you can get the dealer to

take

Quote
care of them...unfortunately the small defects are not cheap to > fix

> as most service centers are now charging close to $90 to $100.

an

Quote
hour and it seems they always take several hours longer to fix > > something than you would expect. One thing you might want to

check

Quote
is to see that the cooling fan is working properly, if it blows > > massive amounts of dust when you drive over a dusty road then

the

Quote
fan probably is not cycling off as it should at low temp > conditions,

> this has been a common problem on many CC built units and there > > seems to be no sure fix for the problem. The problem appears to

be

Quote
a

> faulty program in the fan controller and it is obivously very > > difficult to fix as many folks have tried various patches to fix > it.

> Maybe Media has a tech who knows how to take care of this

problem

Quote
if

> this rig has the problem. CC factory attempted to fix mine the > while

> I was in Junction City recently but they actually made the

problem

Quote
worse as now the fan does not go into High speed until the > overheat

> light comes on. I'm still working this problem and will be

sending

Quote
the fan controller back to CC for another try at getting it > working
> properly.
>

> If you are able to buy an extended service policy at a

reasonable

Quote
price I'd recommend that also, you'll probably need it at some > point

> down the road.
>
> Ray

> 2000 CC Intrigue
>

[quote author=shatfieldj"
>]
> > Hi all.
> >

> > We went to a local dealer yesterday, (JUST TO LOOK), at a 98 > Allue

> > that they just got in. I thought that it would be another > > > disappointing trip to an overly aggresive dealer trying to get > top

> > dollar for another (beat down) unit. Boy were we pleasently > > supprised.
> >

> > The coach is a 98 Allue, 36', 325 Cummins, 41k, 7k Powertec

gen

Quote
set,

> > non-slide, in beautiful condition. Extremely clean, and well > > > maintained. We are so excited. I never thought we would have a > > chance

> > to get a C C , but this is within our reach. We are both 46,

and

Quote
so

> > we have a ways to go before retirement. We currently camp on > > > weekends, with an occational long trip, here and there. This > > should

> > serve us nicely.
> >

> > If you bear with me, I have a few questions. Like some, I have > > been

> > lurking on this board, on and off, for approx 1 1/2 yrs. I

have

Quote
> spoken to Country Coach reps at the Harrisburg RV Shows, and > also

> > received the Destinations Magazine for a time, (the factory

sent

Quote
them

> > to me), so I have some working knowledge of Country Coach, and > > their

> > quality, service, etc.
> >

> > Okay, here's the questions. What is the foot pedal on the left > > side

> > of the floor, left of the brake? Is that the exhaust brake? I > > didn't

> > see one on the dash any where.
> >

> > What about the powertec Gen set. Is it as quite as the Onan.

I'm

Quote
not

> > familar with them. Can you give me any info. It looks like it > has
> a

> > radiator with it.(only 135 hrs though).
> >

> > What is the wheel cut on both sides? > > >

> > There seems to be a small inverter on a panel next to the

sink.

Quote
What

> > is that for. I thought these coaches came with big inverters, > but
> I

> > could'nt find one.
> >

> > Also, how do you keep the Coach Armor clean? > > >

> > There is an hour meter in the rpm gauge. What is that for? I'm > > > guessing the hours on the engine? > > >

> > I read alot about recalls from the factory. Where do you get

the

Quote
> recall work done, factory, dealer? I read about a post for the > > Toyo

> > tire recall, but I cannot find it. Can you fill me in on it? > > >

> > Two areas of concern:
> >

> > There seems to be a hairline crack that is approx 16 inches, > from
> the

> > front clearance lights on the roof. It seems to go the lenght

of

Quote
the

> > roof cap, from left to right. The dealer assures us that he

can

Quote
fix

> > it. Don't know how long it's been there. Any ideas what could

of

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> caused this? Any need for concern? Also the battery's seem to > > have a

> > problem. The engine started, but we could not get the

generator

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to

> > start. It seems that the battery's were low and would not > charge.
> On

> > the panel, the meter read on the lowest setting, 10 volts I > > believe.

> > All of the cutoff switches were on. When we tried to start the > gen

> > set, some of the lights that we on went dim. Dealer said it

was

Re: 98 Allue info please:

Reply #13 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10593
Don't buy a coach without at least the living room slide. They are very hard to resell and the price continues to drop rapidly. The CC "Great Room" slide is built like a tank and adds so much room to the interior of the coach it completely changes the "feel" of being in it. We just got back from a 5 week cross-country trip in ours and the difference in comfort between this and our previous non- slide coach was drastic.
Dan

1998 Allure #30180

Quote from: shatfieldj

Hi all.

We went to a local dealer yesterday, (JUST TO LOOK), at a 98 Allue > that they just got in. I thought that it would be another > disappointing trip to an overly aggresive dealer trying to get top > dollar for another (beat down) unit. Boy were we pleasently

supprised.

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>

The coach is a 98 Allue, 36', 325 Cummins, 41k, 7k Powertec gen

set,

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non-slide, in beautiful condition. Extremely clean, and well > maintained. We are so excited. I never thought we would have a

chance

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to get a C C , but this is within our reach. We are both 46, and

so

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we have a ways to go before retirement. We currently camp on > weekends, with an occational long trip, here and there. This

should

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serve us nicely.

If you bear with me, I have a few questions. Like some, I have

been

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lurking on this board, on and off, for approx 1 1/2 yrs. I have > spoken to Country Coach reps at the Harrisburg RV Shows, and also > received the Destinations Magazine for a time, (the factory sent

them

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to me), so I have some working knowledge of Country Coach, and

their

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quality, service, etc.

Okay, here's the questions. What is the foot pedal on the left

side

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of the floor, left of the brake? Is that the exhaust brake? I

didn't

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see one on the dash any where.

What about the powertec Gen set. Is it as quite as the Onan. I'm

not

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familar with them. Can you give me any info. It looks like it has

a

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radiator with it.(only 135 hrs though).

What is the wheel cut on both sides? >

There seems to be a small inverter on a panel next to the sink.

What

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is that for. I thought these coaches came with big inverters, but

I

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could'nt find one.

Also, how do you keep the Coach Armor clean? >

There is an hour meter in the rpm gauge. What is that for? I'm > guessing the hours on the engine? >

I read alot about recalls from the factory. Where do you get the > recall work done, factory, dealer? I read about a post for the

Toyo

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tire recall, but I cannot find it. Can you fill me in on it? >

Two areas of concern:

There seems to be a hairline crack that is approx 16 inches, from

the

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front clearance lights on the roof. It seems to go the lenght of

the

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roof cap, from left to right. The dealer assures us that he can

fix

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it. Don't know how long it's been there. Any ideas what could of > caused this? Any need for concern? Also the battery's seem to

have a

Quote
problem. The engine started, but we could not get the generator to > start. It seems that the battery's were low and would not charge.

On

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the panel, the meter read on the lowest setting, 10 volts I

believe.

Quote
All of the cutoff switches were on. When we tried to start the gen > set, some of the lights that we on went dim. Dealer said it was > probably a bad switch, again it would be taken care of.

Sorry about all the questions, but we are trying to educate > ourseleves very quickly. We are going to make an offer very

soon.

Re: To Travman100....Regarding Engine Cooling Fan

Reply #14 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10594
Sounds like you received another quality repair job by the so called experts. That kind of stuff makes me very angry.

I checked the wiring diagrams for my deal last night.....and it looks fairly simple. Mine appears to be a two wire system that is controlled from a 4-wire sensor (I would presume the sensor is near the t-stat). I'll probably check two items.....the sensor and the hydraulic valve. My hydraulic valve is located underneath the coach near the transmission cooler and is easy to get to.....I've seen that during other projects. I have a strong feeling that if I do have a problem it is with the sensor operation.

Anyway.....thanks for the feedback.

Mike

'95 Intrigue 10061

Quote from: travman100
I can actually get mine to cool back down by making sure I keep

the

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RPMs up by gearing down manually, whenever I start up a grade, I > keep a close eye on the temp gauge and as it starts getting up

into

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an area where the light is about to come, starts flickering, I

gear

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down to bring rpms up, that usually does the trick. I will really > test it out within the next two weeks as I am heading into

Colorado

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and will probably see some very steep climbs over there. One other > trick that I can do is if I see the gear down isn't working, then

I

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can simply disconnect the 6 wire connector from the controller and > then the fan defaults to High Speed....I need a manual switch so > that I can disconnect the 6 wire connection without leaving the > coach but for now, I just crawl under the coach and disconnect the > plug. Of course then I have the dust storm again but no over

heating

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problem. There has to be someone in the RV world who can fix this > problem, I just haven't found them yet. Since the fan will default > to high speed without controller connected then I think the > controller will turn out to be the culprit...mine has a new > controller just installed last month in Junction City, this did

fix

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the continous high speed problem but it induced the problem of not > engaging fan to high speed as engine temp rises.

Ray

2000 CC Intrigue

[quote author=faa_engineer"

> Travman100,
>

> I've had this unit for a year now. I've suspected that the

engine

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cooling fan is not operating correctly. Going down flat road it > > works fine. But when I hit steep hills, especially on hot days > > (over 95 degrees), my temp starts to climb. And usually if you > pull

> over and idle a diesel, it will cool off almost instantly, but > mine

> doesn't. It will actually just keep getting hotter. I have a > > theory that my high speed function doesn't work....but it is

only

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a

> theory. I am sure there is a way of testing it. Anyone out

there

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been down this road? I am a "do it yourself" kind of guy

so "take

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it to a repair shop" is not the answer that I am looking for.
>

> Thanks,
>

> Mike

> '95 Intrigue 10061
>
>

[quote author=travman100"
>]
> > One point on the no start generator, sounds like house

batteries

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are

> > dead and possibly need to be replaced. You can jump start the > > > generator by jumping from chassis battery to house batteries.
I've

> > done this several times when my house batteries were dead.

I've

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> replaced the house batteries with 6 six volt batteries wired

to

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give

> > me the equivalent of 3 12 volt batteries. I've never had a

house

Quote
> battery problem since installing the 6 volt batteries.
> >

> > You'll find that the hairline cracks are pretty common on CC > rigs,

> > I've had the one you mentioned plus one on the rear of the

coach

Quote
> around the engine access door frame. Also check the sidewalls > very

> > carefull for evidence of fiberglass delamination, it will > probably

> > show up as cracks in the dark painted areas. You might also > > > carefully check the entry door for evidence of electrolysis > > damage,

> > it will look like small or large bubbles under the paint. I'd > > > recommend that you get an independent rv tech really check out > the

> > rig before you buy, there could be many small defects that an > > > experienced eye might catch so that you can get the dealer to > take

> > care of them...unfortunately the small defects are not cheap

to

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fix

> > as most service centers are now charging close to $90 to $100.
an

> > hour and it seems they always take several hours longer to fix > > > something than you would expect. One thing you might want to > check

> > is to see that the cooling fan is working properly, if it

blows

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> massive amounts of dust when you drive over a dusty road then > the

> > fan probably is not cycling off as it should at low temp > > conditions,

> > this has been a common problem on many CC built units and

there

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> seems to be no sure fix for the problem. The problem appears

to

Quote
be
> a

> > faulty program in the fan controller and it is obivously very > > > difficult to fix as many folks have tried various patches to

fix

Quote
it.

> > Maybe Media has a tech who knows how to take care of this > problem
> if

> > this rig has the problem. CC factory attempted to fix mine the > > while

> > I was in Junction City recently but they actually made the > problem

> > worse as now the fan does not go into High speed until the > > overheat

> > light comes on. I'm still working this problem and will be > sending

> > the fan controller back to CC for another try at getting it > > working
> > properly.
> >

> > If you are able to buy an extended service policy at a > reasonable

> > price I'd recommend that also, you'll probably need it at some > > point

> > down the road.
> >
> > Ray

> > 2000 CC Intrigue
> >

[quote author=shatfieldj"
> >]
> > > Hi all.
> > >

> > > We went to a local dealer yesterday, (JUST TO LOOK), at a 98 > > Allue

> > > that they just got in. I thought that it would be another > > > > disappointing trip to an overly aggresive dealer trying to

get

Quote
top

> > > dollar for another (beat down) unit. Boy were we pleasently > > > supprised.
> > >

> > > The coach is a 98 Allue, 36', 325 Cummins, 41k, 7k Powertec > gen

> > set,

> > > non-slide, in beautiful condition. Extremely clean, and well > > > > maintained. We are so excited. I never thought we would have

a

Quote
> chance

> > > to get a C C , but this is within our reach. We are both 46, > and
> > so

> > > we have a ways to go before retirement. We currently camp on > > > > weekends, with an occational long trip, here and there. This > > > should

> > > serve us nicely.
> > >

> > > If you bear with me, I have a few questions. Like some, I

have

Quote
> been

> > > lurking on this board, on and off, for approx 1 1/2 yrs. I > have

> > > spoken to Country Coach reps at the Harrisburg RV Shows, and > > also

> > > received the Destinations Magazine for a time, (the factory > sent
> > them

> > > to me), so I have some working knowledge of Country Coach,

and

Quote
> their

> > > quality, service, etc.
> > >

> > > Okay, here's the questions. What is the foot pedal on the

left

Quote
> side

> > > of the floor, left of the brake? Is that the exhaust brake?

I

Quote
> didn't

> > > see one on the dash any where.
> > >

> > > What about the powertec Gen set. Is it as quite as the Onan.
I'm
> > not

> > > familar with them. Can you give me any info. It looks like

it

Quote
has
> > a

> > > radiator with it.(only 135 hrs though).
> > >

> > > What is the wheel cut on both sides? > > > >

> > > There seems to be a small inverter on a panel next to the > sink.
> > What

> > > is that for. I thought these coaches came with big

inverters,

Quote
but
> > I

> > > could'nt find one.
> > >

> > > Also, how do you keep the Coach Armor clean? > > > >

> > > There is an hour meter in the rpm gauge. What is that for?

I'm

Quote
> > guessing the hours on the engine? > > > >

> > > I read alot about recalls from the factory. Where do you get > the

> > > recall work done, factory, dealer? I read about a post for

the

Quote
> Toyo

> > > tire recall, but I cannot find it. Can you fill me in on it? > > > >

> > > Two areas of concern:
> > >

> > > There seems to be a hairline crack that is approx 16 inches, > > from
> > the

> > > front clearance lights on the roof. It seems to go the

lenght

Quote
of
> > the

> > > roof cap, from left to right. The dealer assures us that he > can
> > fix

> > > it. Don't know how long it's been there. Any ideas what

could

Quote
of

> > > caused this? Any need for concern? Also the battery's seem

to

Quote
> have a

> > > problem. The engine started, but we could not get the > generator
> to

> > > start. It seems that the battery's were low and would not > > charge.
> > On

> > > the panel, the meter read on the lowest setting, 10 volts I > > > believe.

> > > All of the cutoff switches were on. When we tried to start

the
 

Re: To Travman100....Regarding Engine Cooling Fan

Reply #15 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10595
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Mike:

Reguarding your air conditioning problem: I had the same problem and it was caused by the "H" valve. It is located under the front near the heat exchanger and has 4 hoses attached to it. When you call for airconditioning the valve by passes the hot water comming from the rear back to the rear in stead of routing through the heater core. It is so hot it overrides the cooling effect of the cooling coils.

remedy;

I bought a new one from CC at a reasonable price and installed it myself. Upon examining the old one by taking it apart I found it was just not making contact on one of the wiper fingers on the printed circuit board track. I now carry it as a spare.

Look in your books and you can see how it functions. Keep track of which hose goes where as they all look alike.

james M. Green intrigue 11021

- In Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com, "faa_engineer" wrote: