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Tires--STILL----

Yahoo Message Number: 16918
I have not read in any trade pub. about this increase to Max tire pressure [ I'm sure I missed it ]. If this is a legal statement from Toyo then why have they not sent some formal statement in writting? They could pay for a full page Ad in all the trade mags. and get the word out if they really want to CYA. In the meantime this info passed along on the forum or at a Rally only serves to give us concern, and in my case, using 120 in the front, a Really HARD ride, not what CC had in mind when they designed the coach I'm sure.
So is this MAX tire pressure for Toyo real or some rumor that got out of hand?

Thanks, Larry
'99 Affinity 5714

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Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16920
Hi Folks,

This subject has been covered several times since November when TOYO changed its position. MHs are not truckers. Truckers have consistent loads and check pressures often, MHers have varying loads and are less consistent. It's a liability issue, they call it reserve capacity. I use the TOYO charts and the included 6 point weighing procedure. And I don't go below 95 psi for sidewall protection.

Fred Kovol

2000 Allure 30593

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Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16921
Fred, I don't agree with that statement. It depends on what they carry and their purpose.
What they need to do is plan for the worst case scenario (or maximum load condition) and inflate accordingly. The load in a Walmart trailer will vary dramatically between leaving the distribution center and the time it drops its last load and returns empty. Of course no one is riding in the empty trailer so ride quality is not an issue!

 It would be interesting to know what the bus operators do. Loads vary all the time based on passenger load and baggage. I have never seen a driver yet who has worried about weight distribution. Many times on a partially filled bus passengers tend to fill seats on the shady side.

 David

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Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16923
I would be willing to bet that bus drivers just visually check the tires if they do check them.

Truckers basically thump their tires in the mornings and maybe again in the afternoon- if they sound OK drive on. I have been driving motorhomes since 1982 and usually just thump the tires a couple of times during the day and have not had any problems.
On my current coach I do check the pressure before I leave for a trip and then visually check and then thump the tires. Have had no major tire problems with over half a million miles driven.

I may be of the old school, but on some of these posts I think that way too much attention is put toward the tires. New tires, or less that 5 years old tires-keep the recommended pressure in them and visually check them there should be no problems. Have just gotton back from a quick run to Atlanta, GA and will make the same trip again in about three weeks. Will check pressure at the beginning and then thump the black donuts and keep on going.
You know sometimes when you worry about something too much you have a tendancy to get more grey hair. Let's face it with tire monitors on all of your tires on the coach and tow (12 monitors to watch and then the rear view camera and the GPS) I do hope that you guys are watching the road. :))) Anyway, drive safe.
Oh, by the way, I have not known of a truck drive to adjust his tire pressure after unloading or loading his trailer.

Egon

'99 Allure #30321
'02 Tahoe Z71

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Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16924
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You know sometimes when you worry about something too much you have a > tendancy to get more grey hair. Let's face it with tire monitors on > all of your tires on the coach and tow (12 monitors to watch and then > the rear view camera and the GPS) I do hope that you guys are watching > the road. :))) Anyway, drive safe.
Just remember the old engineer's creed....if everything is working it means that the system doesn't have enough features! Tom Fisher
BigD

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Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16925
From: "egonschlottmann" cctravelingman@...> (snip) > I may be of the old school, but on some of these posts I think that

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way too much attention is put toward the tires. (snip)
The following, which was posted in '03 on one of the RV boards, should remind us all of the importance of proper tire maintenance, whichever way you do it:

============================================ "DEAR FRIENDS: A message was posted on this forum on the 4th of April by Guy Tann advertising for a MH driver. He had just purchased his first motor home and needed a driver to deliver it to him in Los Angeles, Ca from Foxboro, Ma. Following several messages on this forum and other e-mails and telephone calls, I became the driver he chose to make this delivery. Over these last several months Guy and I developed the relationship of good friends. He flew to Albuquerque, NM to meet me on the delivery trip in order to acquaint himself with the vehicle. His "new" coach was a 1999 Country Coach Intrigue with 33.000 miles on it. Guy wanted to do everything "right": he put new tires on the coach (see thread concerning this), he changed ALL the fluids and filters and had the coach thoroughly gone over by the West Coast CC representative. Once this was completed, he and I went over and over all the systems for proper operation and understanding. He then took his family on a "maiden" cruise up the California coast for the weekend. He now felt that he was ready for his "big trip" and initiation into the world of RVs. He, his wife, son and two pups left on June 28th on this initial cross-country trip. On the 3rd of July, near Effingham, Illinois, the coach suffered a left, front wheel blow- out, sending the MH off the highway and head-on into a tree. Guy was killed. His wife suffered multiple fractures and internal injuries.
Their son, 12 years old, required stitches for his relatively minor wounds. Guy's funeral was the day before yesterday in Los Angeles.
Guy had so anticipated joining the rest of us in adventuring out in the world of RVing. Please join me in praying for Guy's family. He is a father, husband, and good friend who will be sincerely missed.
Through my tears. . . ORV
Orvil Hazelton"

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Dick (& Geri) Campagna
'98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97

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Yahoo Message Number: 16928
Haven't I seen this letter before or one just like it. All of you beware out there if you have a pre IFS coach, make sure you are using 275R80's up front with the proper air pressutre and also that the two ride height valves have been moved to the back with the plastic parts exchanged or replace with the metal types. Whats worse a tire blow out or a bad ride height valve that puts the chassis on the stops and steers you off the road causing the tire to fail ? TWI 98 Allure 30255/2004 Intrigue 11731 PS next time I'll read the fine print!

Tires--STILL

Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16934
Although I agree with most of your replies, however no one answered my question. I don't doubt the use of common sense or checking for proper tire pressure. I do however doubt the recommendation to use MAX pressure in Toyo tires, Where Is This Written? If this is a legal deal it would be in writing somewhere, Where? I have talked to 3 Les Schawb tire guys and none of them know anything about this.

I first read about this on this site, pumped up the 315s to 120psi and have been beating the h--- out of the coach with the rough ride ever sense. I'm tired of the ride and handling but, if it is a valid recommendation Fine,I'll conitue, if not, it's back to the WT/Press chart for me.

Sorry to get wraped around the axle on this, but this subject [yes it has been covered many times]seems to always deal with how to check tires, got that part. Now--- is the Toyo chart correct or not? If not Who says, did they think enough of their stand to put it in writing and where did they write it down and why don't the folks that sell the product know about it?

Thanks

Larry; Banging around the Northwest

'99 Affinity 5714

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Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16936
From: "tbeer45" beerlt@...>

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Although I agree with most of your replies, however no one answered > my question. I don't doubt the use of common sense or checking for > proper tire pressure. I do however doubt the recommendation to > use MAX pressure in Toyo tires, Where Is This Written? If this is a > legal deal it would be in writing somewhere, Where? I have talked to > 3 Les Schawb tire guys and none of them know anything about this.
How 'bout calling Toyo on the phone??

Dick (& Geri) Campagna
'98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97
 

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Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16957
-Dick, I have talked with the tech folks at Toyo, they passed the buck

to a guy who must be on vacation. I guess he is on vacation as he hasn't returned my calls----we all know good companies always return phone calls. One person did say nothing that they knew of had been

published but they were supposed to tell phone inquiries that they should use the 'placard' pressure, not the stamped or rated pressure on sidewall of tire.

So, there is no official policy in writing that I can discover, but maybe someone lurking here can shed some light on the subject.

Regards, Larry
99 Affinity 5714