Re: Shocks Reply #25 – June 20, 2007, 10:09:26 am Yahoo Message Number: 32144Bob, I had the same problem with my 03 Allure early on, and shock adjustments didn't help. I talked to Doug Rutherford about it and he felt it was ride height. Even though I had previously had it checked, we checked it again and it was slightly off. When corrected I no longer experienced the severe pourposing and bottoming out. I suggest you carefully check your ride height before purchasing new shocks.Walt Rothermel 03Allure30811 Quote Selected
Re: Shocks Reply #26 – June 20, 2007, 11:29:37 am Yahoo Message Number: 32146Last summer I had a simular problem with the front of my coach. Shortly afterwards, the ride height valve failed. Once I got that fixed, the porpoising stopped. I took my coach on Route 10 as well.Everett99 Intrugue 10758 Quote Selected
Shocks Reply #27 – August 15, 2007, 05:48:50 am Yahoo Message Number: 33474Hi Larry,I would apprecialte any input. You mentioned that you had your shocks replaced under warranty. Our Allure 05 has 29K miles, and the ride height had been checked. The rig hits bottom and bounces a lot. We had the shocks tighten, and it did help a little. But we still have the bottoming out and bounce. Do we still have a shock or an HWH problem? Also I notice when I follow behind the coach, the rig will lean and sway when turning. I thought this was normal, but I am beginning to have my doubts. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Marianne Quote Selected
Re: Shocks Reply #28 – August 15, 2007, 08:27:15 am Yahoo Message Number: 33475MarianneI'm not sure about the leaning, but with the old shocks, my front end would occasionally bottom out + as mentioned, ride rough. Once I put the FSDs on, both problems went away. I never adjusted my ride height, and according to my measurements, ride height is OK. I don't recall having a "bounce" as you describe. I think a bounce is more indicative of a shock problem like on a car, but I'm not an expert on air suspensions. Based on my experience with the FSDs, I do think you will notice a distinct ride improvement with them. Happy trails.Larry, 03 Allure 30856 Quote Selected
Re: Shocks Reply #29 – August 15, 2007, 09:30:32 am Yahoo Message Number: 33477Marianne,The symptoms that you describe sounds a lot like my coach driving around a bumpy campground with the tag raised. Is it possible that the tag is down but it is not at the proper pressure? I don't know that I have ever heard of this problem with the tag but they do apply pressure to the road with a predetermined amount from the HWH controller. In a lot of commercial trucks the driver has control over the air pressure on the tag but not so in a CC coach. Just a thought.Don Seager2004 Allure 31046 Quote Selected
Re: Shocks Reply #30 – August 15, 2007, 10:12:51 am Yahoo Message Number: 33478Marianne, I had the same problem some time ago. and adjusting the shocks had no effect on the bottoming out ( I assume it is the front suspension doing it ). I spoke to Doug Rutherford about it and he said to have the ride height re-checked even tho it had been done very recently. Sure enough, it was off just a slight bit, but adjusting it cleared up the problem. That was at least 30,000 miles back. and the problem has not recurred.Good luck,Walt Rothermel 03Allure30811 Quote Selected
Re: Shocks Reply #31 – August 15, 2007, 01:55:18 pm Yahoo Message Number: 33484Walt I am currently on the road. The other day I hit a road repair that the coach flew over and came down with a bang. I am pretty sure I bottomed out. Now the front end sounds like rubber bands. Do you supposed I damaged the shocks? Who does the ride height check? the dealer or a tire aliment?ThanksThank you, Jim Spivey Allure31432 Quote Selected
Re: Shocks Reply #32 – August 15, 2007, 02:54:26 pm Yahoo Message Number: 33486Jim, I don't know if you damaged the shocks, but I doubt it. I should think any good truck service center can check ride height for you, but be sure to get the spec's from CC. One other thing to check---be sure your oil pan wasn't damaged. These things are plastic, not steel, and replacement can be $800+. I have a skid plate on mine after spending $ 788 for a pan replacement several years ago.Good luckWalt Rothermel 03Allure30811 Quote Selected
Re: Shocks Reply #33 – August 15, 2007, 03:16:53 pm Yahoo Message Number: 33487WaltWhere did you get your skid plate? CC parts seemed unfamiliar with it when I asked them about it 6 months or so ago. ThanksLarry 03 Allure 30856 Quote Selected
Skid plate Reply #34 – August 15, 2007, 04:14:06 pm Yahoo Message Number: 33491CC put a skid plate on my '03 Allure (30852) shortly after I got it. Not sure, but it was maybe the first one that they put on. They also put the skid plate on an Intrigue for a friend.So, they do know how, just have to find somebody else to talk to.Jurhee2005 Magna 6480PLEASE DO NOT FORWARD THIS without removing my email address. Quote Selected
Re: Skid plate Reply #35 – August 15, 2007, 05:53:42 pm Yahoo Message Number: 33493Larry,I put a skid plate on my Intrigue about 4 years ago. I purchased it from CC and installed it myself. It doesn't surprise me that CC couldn't locate any info on this. Sometimes I wonder if they still aren't using computers at CC.The skid plate is a must if you have the ISL engine with a composite oil pan. Those oil pans won't take much abuse as a steel pan would.Rob2002 Intrigue #11480 Quote Selected
Re: Shocks Reply #36 – August 15, 2007, 09:09:10 pm Yahoo Message Number: 33495Oops didn't think of that, thanks Walt will get under there and check things out. You can be sure the next road repair sign I see that says "Bump" I am slowing way down.Thank you, Jim Spivey Allure 470 31432 Quote Selected
Re: Shocks Reply #37 – August 16, 2007, 10:41:40 am Yahoo Message Number: 33508Larry, believe it or not, I got the skid plate from CC. Buddy Gregg in Dallas installed it. I think it was in 04.Walt Rothermel 03Allure30811 Quote Selected
Re: Shocks Reply #38 – August 16, 2007, 03:09:15 pm Yahoo Message Number: 33522Thanks Walt. I sent an email to CC with the information Stan provided. Hopefully they will have one.Larry Quote Selected