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Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #25 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94608
Scott,

ZEP Wet -Look is Acrylic based with leveling agent, not a wax. Got it at HD, it comes in a blue gallon container and cost app. $25.00. I used about 3/4 gallon for the whole coach. Started off to do just the roof, it looked so good, thought why not the front as it is do hard to debug [ is that a work? ]. Long story short---did the back cap--looked, then both sided. Now bugs just wipe odd the front. Remember that this is on a rig that has jell coat but was nor clear coated.

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #27 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94613
Thanks that would be the difference. Most of the newer coaches are Gel coated, don't know that I would try it on Gel Coat.

Thanks for the info.

Scott & Debbie Phillips

2006 Endeavor & 2005 Jeep Liberty Toad.

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #28 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94617

Bad wording on my part. Gel [not jell] coating is what is on the 99 Allure. After that the Gel coating had a clear coat also, so I understand. It is my understanding that none of the roof was clear coated, so it will start do oxidize over a period of time and seen as white streaks down the side. Trying to type and visit is not my strong point as you can see.

Bill Dane

99 Allure 30326

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #30 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94629
Bob,

The best that I can remember [which is scary] , from 2000 on the Allure came with a full body clear coat, except for the roof. The ZEP wet floor look on the root took care of the oxidized white streaks running down the side.

Bill Dane 99 Allure 30326

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #31 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94632
I have used Zep Wet Look on the rear cap gel coat of my rig.
First I removed all the peeling clear coat that covered gel coat (not paint base coat).

Then, I cleaned all stains and dirt from the gel coat.
I applied 5 coats of Zep using a wrung out microfiber cloth to avoid drips. With 10 minutes between applications this took about an hour and a half.
The Zep has been on the rig for about one year. It matches the shine of the adjacent clear coated areas.
But..the surface is more rough to the touch than the Clear Coat surface. I will add a maintenance coat this spring.
I had not thought of sealing the roof. My roof has treaded paths down each side which might make application difficult except in the center of the roof.

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #33 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94635
Bill,

Did you strip off the old wax before applying the Zep? Thanks!
Scott Jones, 2004 Allure # 31094 33'

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #34 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94639
Scott,

The first and last time I waxed the roof, the job almost killed my knees. After that I would go on the roof with a sponge mop , a bucket of water with Dawn and towels that I put under my feet. Much easier. I also have 4 solar panels so they make less area to clean. But you do need to remove old wax and oxidation. When the roof looks good to you, start the ZEP. I used a Swiffer with a micro cloth covering it. ZEP makes large spray bottle that I used to put liquid on the Swiffer. You will want to put on 4 or 5 thin coats. After the 1st coat has been applied, you may wonder what you have done ! Each coat after that keeps looking better. It has been 2 1/2 years, so need to put another coat or 2 on the roof.
Bill Dane 99 Allure 30326

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #35 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94642
Both Bob. A 2003 Allure is a full body painted coach. The painted areas are clear coated like any automotive paint job these days. The fiberglass roof mat has a gel-coated surface. Usually gel-coat is applied and cured by the manufacturer as part of the molding process. it can be purchased and applied after the fact but should not be applied over painted surfaces. On earlier partially painted coaches the unpainted areas expose the gel-coated fiberglass.

Don Seager
Former CC Owner

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #36 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94655
I have an 03 allure, I believe mine is base coat / clear coat. Would Zep wet floor work on that, I see yours is a little older, is it gel coat or base/clear? Have you ever heard of anyone doing in on base/clear?

Thanks
Bob

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #37 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94671
Bob,

All the reports that I have read is just over non clear coated. The striping on my rig is paint with clear coat from the factory and I did put ZEP on it and in 2 1/2 years have not had any trouble with it. You can put ZEP on the roof as it was not painter or clear coated. I do not have white streaks running down the sides any more. Now if I could get the Arizona dust and now the Alabama tree pollen to stay off the roof!
Bill Dane 99 Allure 30326

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #38 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94679
Bill,

The white streaking is caused by the powdery film that is oxidation of the gel-coat finish applied to the fiberglass roof mat. The surface oxidizes when exposed to UV rays and then the rain runs it over the sides of the coach. There are many favorite applications to slow the oxidation process. One favorite for a while was Formula 303 (don't rely on my memory but that is close) which is a UV screen. That is all it does. The problem with it is that it is very effective but only lasts a few months. Others used various waxes which likewise work for a while but don't last all that long. Another one is Bus-Kote (again don't rely on my accuracy here) that is a much heavier product but I am not very familiar with it.
Everyone will shriek with horror when they hear what I finally did that stopped the white streaks. I simply stopped washing the roof. It took a while but eventually the layer of dirt and grime acted as a great protective coating shielding the gel-coat from UV and sure was easy to apply and cheap. I was never able to detect any damage to the roof after 8 years of owning the coach. Who sees up there anyway. Note: I am not offering this idea as a recommendation. We were full timers and I got sick of the constant care. We did not have the luxury of a garage facility.

Don Seager
Former CC Owner

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #39 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94697
Don,

That was a novel approach for solving the white streaking problem. Afraid my solar system would rebel with that much grim on them. As you know, they demand to be in the sun and that exposure gave me the gift of oxidation. Now if I could just have found a way to never be in rain!
Bill Dane 99 Allure 30326

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #40 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94710
Well Bill all you have to clean is the solar panels not the whole roof. Just joking, I know that leaving the roof grimy is not going to happen with most coach owners. I didn't either for a number of years.

Being full timers for 11 years I often try to pass on some time saving hints but seldom get much acceptance. One of the best things I ever did was to apply a product call Sun Block For Tires. It is a UV protective latex based paint that is painted on the exposed sidewalls. It lasts 5 years and eliminates the tire covers and messy short lived UV spray-on tire treatment. Unlike the spray-on treatments it provides a low luster finish that looks much like a new set of tires and continues to provide that look. The tire side walls are easily cleaned. The product's biggest customers are several branches of the military that use it on their vehicles particularly those deployed in desert areas. The tires need to be well cleaned before applying and you must not apply a second coat. That will cause it to flake off. Hopefully that fact has now been added to the direction. It helps if you are good at striking a line with a paint brush and don't use a cheap brush. If you are not then you can mask off the rims but being circular that adds a significant amount of time but worth it in the end. I believe Camping World still carries the product. I can't figure out why it is not more popular.

Another trick involved our Hydrohot unit. In our 2004 Allure it was mounted sideways in a bay of its own. Access to the working parts was through one end and that was so tight that seeing in there let alone doing anything was next to impossible. One time a number of years ago Roger Berke was at Perry Georgia. I was fairly close by so he came over to do some work on my unit. He also was bothered by the close quarters so he went and got his Dermel tool and we cut the side panel at the bottom edge back to the vicinity of the boiler unit. We then cut the panel down the side to meet the end of the bottom cut. That allowed a big piece of the side panel to be removed. What a difference. We then temporarily formed a hinge with duct tape at the back of the cut out piece and stuck it back in place. Eventually I planned on replacing the duct tape with hinges but never got around to it. The duct tape held until I got rid of the coach. The whole thing made access to work on the HydroHot almost a pleasure. Roger, an AquaHot tech, told me that the outside case is not needed at all and more window dressing than anything else.

Just a couple of hints that saved me a lot of time and effort along the way.

Don Seager

Former CC Owner

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #41 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94712
I have tried to respond to this and other posts but somehow, my computer wants to stick a none Yahoo email address, not acceptable to the forums, and I haven't found away around it, so trying another way to post.

I have a 2003 Allure that had oxide streaks down the side of the RV every time it rained or had heavy dew. Being a long time boater I painted the roof a year ago with Interlux Bright Sides white boat paint. I mixed a non skid additive used for decks but added about 1/4 the amount recommended. The non skid was added because in the morning, the roof is wet with dew and it is usually hot when I am work on the roof and the sweat that drips off is quite slippery when I step on it.

First, I cleaned the roof per the instructions, then masked off the area around the outside to the clear paint line at the top of the coach and areas where the skylights and other penetrations are located. I then painted it one coat with a brush and it turned out very well, even though few will ever see it. I no longer have any oxide streaks down the side of the coach and I do not expect any future maintenance. The paint holds up well on boats totally exposed long term to the sun. Interlux makes a 2 part paint for boats which is more expensive and better, especially for boat decks and hull sides where it receives heavy traffic on the decks, or where the hull rubs up against the dock. This is certainly not required for a RV roof. I doubt I took more than 6 hours to do the whole job and was done for well under $100.

After a year, I have no more oxide streaks, the roof cleans very easily, and the best part is that it is far more safe than before as I no longer have any slipping issues when it is wet. The paint and non skid additive can be purchased at almost any marine store including West Marine. I don't expect that I will have to do any paint related maintenance with the only future roof maintenance being normal caulk repairs for penetrations and the occasional cleaning from debris from trees and birds.

Dennis

2003 Allure #30884

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #42 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94720
Don,

Will have to look into the Sun Block for tires as I now do the 303 route at least once a month. I raced sports cars on road courses for 33 years. If we needed to paint a rim with tire mounted, we put about a 2 inch strip of grease on the tire , painted the rim, then took the grease off. So it would seem feasible to put grease on the rim to put Sun Block on the tires.

Bill Dane 99 Allure 30326

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #43 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94721
Hay Dennis,

Glad you found a way to post, I also have had problems in the past. Sounds as though you have solved the white streak problem with your coach, using a different approach.. Bill Dane 99 Allure 30326

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #44 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94728
Dennis, did you apply their primer product to the gelcoat before using the Interlux one-part?
Does your non-slip additive tend to "capture" more dirt etc. than a smooth surface does on your roof?

Thanks for any additional info.
Dean

'95 Magna 5280

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #45 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94776
I'm sorry for the late response but haven't had a chance to look at emails for a few days. Regarding a primer, non was required on the paint I used when applying over fiberglass. I did their recommended cleaning prior to painting and I lightly wet sanded the surface as part of the process.

The roof is not noticeably dirtier and does not snag more debris because of the non skid additive. I used much less than what was called for as it's not like I am on a boat with a pitching deck. The roof is much safer to walk on and as I noted, I don't expect to have to do more maintenance except for the normal cleaning and caulking repairs.
Dennis

2003 Allure 30884

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #46 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94779
Hi Dennis,

Can you give us an idea how much of the paint you used to cover your roof?

Thanks,
Barney

07 Inspire 52059
 

Re: 1999 Allure

Reply #47 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94797
I have been unable to reply to the group in a normal fashion as for some reason, I can not respond with my yahoo email address. So I am using the post feature which works.

Regarding how much paint I used on the roof of the RV, it was 1 1/3 quarts for the 36 ft Allure. It is fairly expensive paint running about $45/quart. Just follow the directions for the preparation, add some non skid additive and paint the roof. You should never have fiberglass oxide running down the sides of the coach again.
Dennis

2003 36 ft. Allure #30884