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Moultrie was a diaster

Yahoo Message Number: 15736
I am sorry, but I disagree with your comments concerning the Moultrie rally. In addition to the rain and mud, I think the entire rally was not well planned and was generally a diaster. I seriously doubt if many of the first timers will be atttending another rally in the near future. I heard many negative comments and welcome CCI hiring someone to coordinate rallys. CCI rallys are nothing more than a means for CC to bring together a capative audience to sell coaches.

CC sold 24 coaches at Moultrie, and had sold many more coaches at Perry when we departed on Wednesday. Money seems to not be a factor for many buyers and that will only lead to higher prices since there is no incentive for CC to do anything different. A $30K price increase for the 06 Magna is unreal, and the cost of an Intrigue has more than doubled in five years. CC dealers are telling customers they have to make at least $30K on every deal, and people are lining up to give it to them!

--- totenard peralko@...> wrote:

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>

We had a great rally at Moultrie, even if it rained > a bit. We were

told some 70 folks had to be pulled out of the mud.
I had hoped to

run into some folks from this board, but didn't get > a chance. I saw

Walt Rothermel's name on the board--space 122--I see > him post on

here regularly. Made several new friends--a lot of > great people.

CC were happy too--they sold 22 coaches! > Couldn't get our rope lights replaced--they didn't > have any with

them. A lot of folks got work done though. We met > some folks that

had the same coach, down to the colors and > floorplan. They had

bought theirs a week earlier, and had all kinds of > problems. Toilet

didn't work, refrigerator didn't work, and the > inverter didn't

work. Xantrex fixed the inverter, Dometic the > refrigerator--both at

no charge, and CC had the actuator that was broken > on the toilet.

They left with the coach in much better shape.
Scary how the prices keep going up on the coaches, > though. The

Intrigue listed for $515k, and the Affinity at > $721K. Actually the

Affinity and Magnas are starting to look a bit too > much on the

glitzy side. The Intrigue is more like it, although > they need a

bigger fuel tank, especially with the 525 HP engine.
We will be looking forward to the next rally, but it > will probably

have to wait until the fall.

Per K.

95 Affinity 5259
Gene Clendenin

Re: Moultrie was a diaster

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 15737
I second some of your comments ... I attended my first rally last year in Tucson ... I was very disappointed ... It was just a sells fest and I didn't receive much support with issues on my then new coach because they were stretched too thin. I'm have not attended another rally since then. I don't know if Tucson was an aberration or if all the rallies are like that.

Rick,

Fulltiming in a '04, 36' Allure, 31018

Re: Moultrie was a diaster

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 15738
I guess it depends on what you are looking for. Yo us, the main thing is to meet people, and exchange information. We learned at the ElDorado rally in 2002 that you can?t expect a lot from the free maintenance.
They have limited parts and personnel, and from what I heard, a lot of folks signed up at the last minute.
The food was good, even though the buses to Colquitt didn't come on the first day. So, we just went out there in a car with another couple, and had a good time. I suppose you can be miserable anywhere!

Per

5259 Affinity.

--- Gene Clendenin geneclend61@...> wrote:

I am sorry, but I disagree with your comments concerning the Moultrie rally. In addition to the rain and mud, I think the entire rally was not well planned and was generally a diaster. I seriously doubt if many of the first timers will be atttending another rally in the near future. I heard many negative comments and welcome CCI hiring someone to coordinate rallys. CCI rallys are nothing more than a means for CC to bring together a capative audience to sell coaches.

CC sold 24 coaches at Moultrie, and had sold many more coaches at Perry when we departed on Wednesday. Money seems to not be a factor for many buyers and that will only lead to higher prices since there is no incentive for CC to do anything different. A $30K price increase for the 06 Magna is unreal, and the cost of an Intrigue has more than doubled in five years. CC dealers are telling customers they have to make at least $30K on every deal, and people are lining up to give it to them!

--- totenard peralko@...> wrote:

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>

We had a great rally at Moultrie, even if it rained > a bit. We were

told some 70 folks had to be pulled out of the mud.
I had hoped to

run into some folks from this board, but didn't get > a chance. I saw

Walt Rothermel's name on the board--space 122--I see > him post on

here regularly. Made several new friends--a lot of > great people.

CC were happy too--they sold 22 coaches! > Couldn't get our rope lights replaced--they didn't > have any with

them. A lot of folks got work done though. We met > some folks that

had the same coach, down to the colors and > floorplan. They had

bought theirs a week earlier, and had all kinds of > problems. Toilet

didn't work, refrigerator didn't work, and the > inverter didn't

work. Xantrex fixed the inverter, Dometic the > refrigerator--both at

no charge, and CC had the actuator that was broken > on the toilet.

They left with the coach in much better shape.
Scary how the prices keep going up on the coaches, > though. The

Intrigue listed for $515k, and the Affinity at > $721K. Actually the

Affinity and Magnas are starting to look a bit too > much on the

glitzy side. The Intrigue is more like it, although > they need a

bigger fuel tank, especially with the 525 HP engine.
We will be looking forward to the next rally, but it > will probably

have to wait until the fall.

Per K.

95 Affinity 5259
Gene Clendenin

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Re: Moultrie was a diaster

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 15742
When compared to other rallys e.g. Buddy Gregg sponsored events, this rally left alot to be desired.
They knew how many people were coming, but there was not sufficient food for several meals. When we first joined CCI the rallys were well organized, but they have gone down hill and I think that was evident by the comments by the club president that CCI was going to hire a rally coordinator. I assume if meeting people is one's sole criteria for judging a rally, this one would fit the bill.

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>

I guess it depends on what you are looking for. Yo > us, the main thing is to meet people, and exchange > information. We learned at the ElDorado rally in > 2002

that you can?t expect a lot from the free > maintenance.

They have limited parts and personnel, and from > what

I heard, a lot of folks signed up at the last > minute.

The food was good, even though the buses to Colquitt > didn't come on the first day. So, we just went out > there in a car with another couple, and had a good > time. I suppose you can be miserable anywhere! >
Per

5259 Affinity.

--- Gene Clendenin geneclend61@...> wrote: >

I am sorry, but I disagree with your comments > concerning the Moultrie rally. In addition to the > rain and mud, I think the entire rally was not well > planned and was generally a diaster. I seriously > doubt if many of the first timers will be atttending > another rally in the near future. I heard many > negative comments and welcome CCI hiring someone to > coordinate rallys. CCI rallys are nothing more than > a

means for CC to bring together a capative audience > to

sell coaches.

CC sold 24 coaches at Moultrie, and had sold many > more

coaches at Perry when we departed on Wednesday.
Money

seems to not be a factor for many buyers and that > will

only lead to higher prices since there is no > incentive

for CC to do anything different. A $30K price > increase for the 06 Magna is unreal, and the cost of > an Intrigue has more than doubled in five years. CC > dealers are telling customers they have to make at > least $30K on every deal, and people are lining up > to

give it to them!

--- totenard peralko@...> wrote: > >

> We had a great rally at Moultrie, even if it > rained

> a bit. We were

> told some 70 folks had to be pulled out of the > mud.

> I had hoped to

> run into some folks from this board, but didn't > get

> a chance. I saw

> Walt Rothermel's name on the board--space 122--I > see

> him post on

> here regularly. Made several new friends--a lot > of

> great people.

> CC were happy too--they sold 22 coaches! > > Couldn't get our rope lights replaced--they didn't > > have any with

> them. A lot of folks got work done though. We > met

> some folks that

> had the same coach, down to the colors and > > floorplan. They had

> bought theirs a week earlier, and had all kinds of > > problems. Toilet

> didn't work, refrigerator didn't work, and the > > inverter didn't

> work. Xantrex fixed the inverter, Dometic the > > refrigerator--both at

> no charge, and CC had the actuator that was broken > > on the toilet.

> They left with the coach in much better shape.
> Scary how the prices keep going up on the coaches, > > though. The

> Intrigue listed for $515k, and the Affinity at > > $721K. Actually the

> Affinity and Magnas are starting to look a bit too > > much on the

> glitzy side. The Intrigue is more like it, > although

> they need a

> bigger fuel tank, especially with the 525 HP > engine.

> We will be looking forward to the next rally, but > it

> will probably

> have to wait until the fall.
>

> Per K.

> 95 Affinity 5259
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Re: Moultrie was a diaster

Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 15743
I also was very disappointed with the Rally. I was on the south side site 209 and only saw a couple of Coaches being towed out of the mud, I had no problem getting out. Other than the mix of Monaco's and CC's in the south lot, Monaco was on hard surface parking. I mentioned this to one of the CC guy's and he said it was a disaster, CC was suppose to have first pick of the area.

The seminars were almost impossible to hear since there was always so much noise in the building, we would have better off in a tent.
Monaco seperated there seminars so people could hear. Lots of vendors in the Monaco area, one at CC.

All in all, CC needs needs to do a better job at Rally's.
Tom

04 Allure 30979

Re: Moultrie was a diaster

Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 15745
Who said anything about sole criteria? They had some glitches, but it was not all that bad.
I did not see anyone who did not get fed at any of the meals, and for the most part, there was plenty of food left over. But of course, some people can't be satisfied, no matter what!
Per

--- Gene Clendenin geneclend61@...> wrote:

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>

When compared to other rallys e.g. Buddy Gregg > sponsored events, this rally left alot to be > desired.

They knew how many people were coming, but there was > not sufficient food for several meals. When we > first

joined CCI the rallys were well organized, but they > have gone down hill and I think that was evident by > the comments by the club president that CCI was > going

to hire a rally coordinator. I assume if meeting > people is one's sole criteria for judging a rally, > this one would fit the bill.

>

> I guess it depends on what you are looking for.
Yo

> us, the main thing is to meet people, and exchange > > information. We learned at the ElDorado rally in > > 2002

> that you can?t expect a lot from the free > > maintenance.

> They have limited parts and personnel, and from > > what

> I heard, a lot of folks signed up at the last > > minute.

> The food was good, even though the buses to > Colquitt

> didn't come on the first day. So, we just went > out

> there in a car with another couple, and had a good > > time. I suppose you can be miserable anywhere! > >
> Per

> 5259 Affinity.
>

> --- Gene Clendenin geneclend61@...> wrote: > >
>
>

> I am sorry, but I disagree with your comments > > concerning the Moultrie rally. In addition to the > > rain and mud, I think the entire rally was not > well

> planned and was generally a diaster. I seriously > > doubt if many of the first timers will be > atttending

> another rally in the near future. I heard many > > negative comments and welcome CCI hiring someone > to

> coordinate rallys. CCI rallys are nothing more > than
> a

> means for CC to bring together a capative audience > > to

> sell coaches.
>

> CC sold 24 coaches at Moultrie, and had sold many > > more

> coaches at Perry when we departed on Wednesday.
> Money

> seems to not be a factor for many buyers and that > > will

> only lead to higher prices since there is no > > incentive

> for CC to do anything different. A $30K price > > increase for the 06 Magna is unreal, and the cost > of

> an Intrigue has more than doubled in five years.
CC

> dealers are telling customers they have to make at > > least $30K on every deal, and people are lining up > > to

> give it to them!
>

> --- totenard peralko@...> wrote: > > >

> > We had a great rally at Moultrie, even if it > > rained

> > a bit. We were

> > told some 70 folks had to be pulled out of the > > mud.

> > I had hoped to

> > run into some folks from this board, but didn't > > get

> > a chance. I saw

> > Walt Rothermel's name on the board--space 122--I > > see

> > him post on

> > here regularly. Made several new friends--a lot > > of

> > great people.

> > CC were happy too--they sold 22 coaches! > > > Couldn't get our rope lights replaced--they > didn't

> > have any with

> > them. A lot of folks got work done though. We > > met

> > some folks that

> > had the same coach, down to the colors and > > > floorplan. They had

> > bought theirs a week earlier, and had all kinds > of

> > problems. Toilet

> > didn't work, refrigerator didn't work, and the > > > inverter didn't

> > work. Xantrex fixed the inverter, Dometic the > > > refrigerator--both at

> > no charge, and CC had the actuator that was > broken

> > on the toilet.

> > They left with the coach in much better shape.
> > Scary how the prices keep going up on the > coaches,

> > though. The

> > Intrigue listed for $515k, and the Affinity at > > > $721K. Actually the

> > Affinity and Magnas are starting to look a bit > too

> > much on the

> > glitzy side. The Intrigue is more like it, > > although

> > they need a

> > bigger fuel tank, especially with the 525 HP > > engine.

> > We will be looking forward to the next rally, > but
> it

> > will probably

> > have to wait until the fall.
> >

> > Per K.

> > 95 Affinity 5259
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 15747
Apparently alot of folks attended a different rally than you!

Have a great day!!!

--- Per Korslund peralko@...> wrote:

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Who said anything about sole criteria? > They had some glitches, but it was not all that bad.

I did not see anyone who did not get fed at any of > the

meals, and for the most part, there was plenty of > food

left over. But of course, some people can't be > satisfied, no matter what!

Per

--- Gene Clendenin geneclend61@...> wrote: >
>

> When compared to other rallys e.g. Buddy Gregg > > sponsored events, this rally left alot to be > > desired.

> They knew how many people were coming, but there > was

> not sufficient food for several meals. When we > > first

> joined CCI the rallys were well organized, but > they

> have gone down hill and I think that was evident > by

> the comments by the club president that CCI was > > going

> to hire a rally coordinator. I assume if meeting > > people is one's sole criteria for judging a rally, > > this one would fit the bill.
>
> >

> > I guess it depends on what you are looking for.
> Yo

> > us, the main thing is to meet people, and > exchange

> > information. We learned at the ElDorado rally > in

> > 2002

> > that you can?t expect a lot from the free > > > maintenance.

> > They have limited parts and personnel, and from > > > what

> > I heard, a lot of folks signed up at the last > > > minute.

> > The food was good, even though the buses to > > Colquitt

> > didn't come on the first day. So, we just went > > out

> > there in a car with another couple, and had a > good

> > time. I suppose you can be miserable anywhere! > > >
> > Per

> > 5259 Affinity.
> >

> > --- Gene Clendenin geneclend61@...> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >

> > I am sorry, but I disagree with your comments > > > concerning the Moultrie rally. In addition to > the

> > rain and mud, I think the entire rally was not > > well

> > planned and was generally a diaster. I > seriously

> > doubt if many of the first timers will be > > atttending

> > another rally in the near future. I heard many > > > negative comments and welcome CCI hiring someone > > to

> > coordinate rallys. CCI rallys are nothing more > > than
> > a

> > means for CC to bring together a capative > audience
> > to

> > sell coaches.
> >

> > CC sold 24 coaches at Moultrie, and had sold > many
> > more

> > coaches at Perry when we departed on Wednesday.
> > Money

> > seems to not be a factor for many buyers and > that
> > will

> > only lead to higher prices since there is no > > > incentive

> > for CC to do anything different. A $30K price > > > increase for the 06 Magna is unreal, and the > cost
> of

> > an Intrigue has more than doubled in five years.
> CC

> > dealers are telling customers they have to make > at

> > least $30K on every deal, and people are lining > up
> > to

> > give it to them!
> >

> > --- totenard peralko@...> wrote: > > > >

> > > We had a great rally at Moultrie, even if it > > > rained

> > > a bit. We were

> > > told some 70 folks had to be pulled out of the > > > mud.

> > > I had hoped to

> > > run into some folks from this board, but > didn't
> > get

> > > a chance. I saw

> > > Walt Rothermel's name on the board--space > 122--I
> > see

> > > him post on

> > > here regularly. Made several new friends--a > lot
> > of

> > > great people.

> > > CC were happy too--they sold 22 coaches! > > > > Couldn't get our rope lights replaced--they > > didn't

> > > have any with

> > > them. A lot of folks got work done though.
We

> > met

> > > some folks that

> > > had the same coach, down to the colors and > > > > floorplan. They had

> > > bought theirs a week earlier, and had all > kinds
> of

> > > problems. Toilet

> > > didn't work, refrigerator didn't work, and the > > > > inverter didn't

> > > work. Xantrex fixed the inverter, Dometic the > > > > refrigerator--both at

> > > no charge, and CC had the actuator that was > > broken

> > > on the toilet.

> > > They left with the coach in much better shape.
> > > Scary how the prices keep going up on the > > coaches,

> > > though. The

> > > Intrigue listed for $515k, and the Affinity at > > > > $721K. Actually the

> > > Affinity and Magnas are starting to look a bit > > too

> > > much on the

> > > glitzy side. The Intrigue is more like it, > > > although

> > > they need a

> > > bigger fuel tank, especially with the 525 HP > > > engine.

> > > We will be looking forward to the next rally, > > but
> > it

> > > will probably

> > > have to wait until the fall.
> > >

> > > Per K.

> > > 95 Affinity 5259
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >

> > Gene Clendenin
> >
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Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 15752
Or there are a lot of folks with attitude problems! I always have a great day--even when I lost a tire on the way to Moultrie!

--- Gene Clendenin geneclend61@...> wrote:

Quote
>

Apparently alot of folks attended a different rally > than you!

Have a great day!!!

--- Per Korslund peralko@...> wrote: >
>

> Who said anything about sole criteria? > > They had some glitches, but it was not all that > bad.
>

> I did not see anyone who did not get fed at any of > > the

> meals, and for the most part, there was plenty of > > food

> left over. But of course, some people can't be > > satisfied, no matter what!
>
> Per
>

> --- Gene Clendenin geneclend61@...> wrote: > >
> >

> > When compared to other rallys e.g. Buddy Gregg > > > sponsored events, this rally left alot to be > > > desired.

> > They knew how many people were coming, but there > > was

> > not sufficient food for several meals. When we > > > first

> > joined CCI the rallys were well organized, but > > they

> > have gone down hill and I think that was evident > > by

> > the comments by the club president that CCI was > > > going

> > to hire a rally coordinator. I assume if > meeting

> > people is one's sole criteria for judging a > rally,

> > this one would fit the bill.
> >
> > >

> > > I guess it depends on what you are looking > for.
> > Yo

> > > us, the main thing is to meet people, and > > exchange

> > > information. We learned at the ElDorado rally > > in

> > > 2002

> > > that you can?t expect a lot from the free > > > > maintenance.

> > > They have limited parts and personnel, and > from

> > > what

> > > I heard, a lot of folks signed up at the last > > > > minute.

> > > The food was good, even though the buses to > > > Colquitt

> > > didn't come on the first day. So, we just > went
> > out

> > > there in a car with another couple, and had a > > good

> > > time. I suppose you can be miserable > anywhere!
> > >
> > > Per

> > > 5259 Affinity.
> > >

> > > --- Gene Clendenin geneclend61@...> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > I am sorry, but I disagree with your comments > > > > concerning the Moultrie rally. In addition to > > the

> > > rain and mud, I think the entire rally was not > > > well

> > > planned and was generally a diaster. I > > seriously

> > > doubt if many of the first timers will be > > > atttending

> > > another rally in the near future. I heard > many

> > > negative comments and welcome CCI hiring > someone
> > to

> > > coordinate rallys. CCI rallys are nothing > more
> > than
> > > a

> > > means for CC to bring together a capative > > audience
> > > to

> > > sell coaches.
> > >

> > > CC sold 24 coaches at Moultrie, and had sold > > many
> > > more

> > > coaches at Perry when we departed on > Wednesday.
> > > Money

> > > seems to not be a factor for many buyers and > > that
> > > will

> > > only lead to higher prices since there is no > > > > incentive

> > > for CC to do anything different. A $30K price > > > > increase for the 06 Magna is unreal, and the > > cost
> > of

> > > an Intrigue has more than doubled in five > years.
> > CC

> > > dealers are telling customers they have to > make
> at

> > > least $30K on every deal, and people are > lining
> up
> > > to

> > > give it to them!
> > >

> > > --- totenard peralko@...> wrote: > > > > >

> > > > We had a great rally at Moultrie, even if it > > > > rained

> > > > a bit. We were

> > > > told some 70 folks had to be pulled out of > the

> > > mud.

> > > > I had hoped to

> > > > run into some folks from this board, but > > didn't
> > > get

> > > > a chance. I saw

> > > > Walt Rothermel's name on the board--space > > 122--I
> > > see

> > > > him post on

> > > > here regularly. Made several new friends--a > > lot
> > > of

> > > > great people.

> > > > CC were happy too--they sold 22 coaches! > > > > > Couldn't get our rope lights replaced--they > > > didn't

> > > > have any with

> > > > them. A lot of folks got work done though.
> We

> > > met

> > > > some folks that

> > > > had the same coach, down to the colors and > > > > > floorplan. They had

> > > > bought theirs a week earlier, and had all > > kinds
> > of

> > > > problems. Toilet

> > > > didn't work, refrigerator didn't work, and > the

> > > > inverter didn't

> > > > work. Xantrex fixed the inverter, Dometic > the

> > > > refrigerator--both at

> > > > no charge, and CC had the actuator that was > > > broken

> > > > on the toilet.

> > > > They left with the coach in much better > shape.

> > > > Scary how the prices keep going up on the > > > coaches,

> > > > though. The

> > > > Intrigue listed for $515k, and the Affinity > at

> > > > $721K. Actually the

> > > > Affinity and Magnas are starting to look a > bit
> > too

> > > > much on the

> > > > glitzy side. The Intrigue is more like it, > > > > although

> > > > they need a

> > > > bigger fuel tank, especially with the 525 HP > > > > engine.

> > > > We will be looking forward to the next > rally,
> > but
> > > it

> > > > will probably

> > > > have to wait until the fall.
> > > >

> > > > Per K.

> > > > 95 Affinity 5259
> > > >
> > > >
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Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 15761
Talking about tires, we were traveling from Perry on I-20 on Wednesday and a motor home pulling a car on a dolly and the spare tire on the dolly broke lose and flew through the air and smashed into the front of our coach and did about $6-7,000 in damage. The guys at Buddy Gregg said we were lucky that we were not riding in our tow car in lieu of the motor home.

--- Per Korslund peralko@...> wrote:

Quote
>

Or there are a lot of folks with attitude problems! > I always have a great day--even when I lost a tire > on

the way to Moultrie!

--- Gene Clendenin geneclend61@...> wrote: >
>

> Apparently alot of folks attended a different > rally

> than you!
>

> Have a great day!!!
>
>

> --- Per Korslund peralko@...> wrote: > >
> >

> > Who said anything about sole criteria? > > > They had some glitches, but it was not all that > > bad.
> >

> > I did not see anyone who did not get fed at any > of

> > the

> > meals, and for the most part, there was plenty > of

> > food

> > left over. But of course, some people can't be > > > satisfied, no matter what!
> >
> > Per
> >

> > --- Gene Clendenin geneclend61@...> > wrote:
> >
> > >

> > > When compared to other rallys e.g. Buddy Gregg > > > > sponsored events, this rally left alot to be > > > > desired.

> > > They knew how many people were coming, but > there
> > was

> > > not sufficient food for several meals. When > we

> > > first

> > > joined CCI the rallys were well organized, but > > > they

> > > have gone down hill and I think that was > evident
> > by

> > > the comments by the club president that CCI > was

> > > going

> > > to hire a rally coordinator. I assume if > > meeting

> > > people is one's sole criteria for judging a > > rally,

> > > this one would fit the bill.
> > >
> > > >

> > > > I guess it depends on what you are looking > > for.
> > > Yo

> > > > us, the main thing is to meet people, and > > > exchange

> > > > information. We learned at the ElDorado > rally
> > in

> > > > 2002

> > > > that you can?t expect a lot from the free > > > > > maintenance.

> > > > They have limited parts and personnel, and > > from

> > > > what

> > > > I heard, a lot of folks signed up at the > last

> > > > minute.

> > > > The food was good, even though the buses to > > > > Colquitt

> > > > didn't come on the first day. So, we just > > went
> > > out

> > > > there in a car with another couple, and had > a

> > good

> > > > time. I suppose you can be miserable > > anywhere!
> > > >
> > > > Per

> > > > 5259 Affinity.
> > > >

> > > > --- Gene Clendenin geneclend61@...> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> > > > I am sorry, but I disagree with your > comments

> > > > concerning the Moultrie rally. In addition > to

> > the

> > > > rain and mud, I think the entire rally was > not

> > > well

> > > > planned and was generally a diaster. I > > > seriously

> > > > doubt if many of the first timers will be > > > > atttending

> > > > another rally in the near future. I heard > > many

> > > > negative comments and welcome CCI hiring > > someone
> > > to

> > > > coordinate rallys. CCI rallys are nothing > > more
> > > than
> > > > a

> > > > means for CC to bring together a capative > > > audience
> > > > to

> > > > sell coaches.
> > > >

> > > > CC sold 24 coaches at Moultrie, and had sold > > > many
> > > > more

> > > > coaches at Perry when we departed on > > Wednesday.
> > > > Money

> > > > seems to not be a factor for many buyers and > > > that
> > > > will

> > > > only lead to higher prices since there is no > > > > > incentive

> > > > for CC to do anything different. A $30K > price

> > > > increase for the 06 Magna is unreal, and the > > > cost
> > > of

> > > > an Intrigue has more than doubled in five > > years.
> > > CC

> > > > dealers are telling customers they have to > > make
> > at

> > > > least $30K on every deal, and people are > > lining
> > up
> > > > to

> > > > give it to them!
> > > >

> > > > --- totenard peralko@...> wrote: > > > > > >

> > > > > We had a great rally at Moultrie, even if > it

> > > > rained

> > > > > a bit. We were

> > > > > told some 70 folks had to be pulled out of > > the

> > > > mud.

> > > > > I had hoped to

> > > > > run into some folks from this board, but > > > didn't
> > > > get

> > > > > a chance. I saw

> > > > > Walt Rothermel's name on the board--space > > > 122--I
> > > > see

> > > > > him post on

> > > > > here regularly. Made several new > friends--a
> > lot
> > > > of

> > > > > great people.

> > > > > CC were happy too--they sold 22 coaches! > > > > > > Couldn't get our rope lights > replaced--they
> > > didn't

> > > > > have any with

> > > > > them. A lot of folks got work done > though.
> > We

> > > > met

> > > > > some folks that

> > > > > had the same coach, down to the colors and > > > > > > floorplan. They had

> > > > > bought theirs a week earlier, and had all > > > kinds
> > > of

> > > > > problems. Toilet

> > > > > didn't work, refrigerator didn't work, and > > the

> > > > > inverter didn't

> > > > > work. Xantrex fixed the inverter, Dometic > > the

> > > > > refrigerator--both at

> > > > > no charge, and CC had the actuator that > was

> > > broken

> > > > > on the toilet.
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Re: Moultrie was a diaster

Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 15826
Per,

I agree with you that Moultrie was a disaster but ITdisagree with you on the things that get done at rallies. We arrived at moultrie with an engine problem on our C-13 that would not go away. We have 7000 miles on our 05 Mag and have been to the Cat shop in Tampa 6 times and still get a check engine light every 30 miles. When we arrived at the rally we told CCI to fix it or else before we leave the rally or Perry. The Cat rep asked us to wait till Perry because of the mud at Moultie and they would come to our campground accross from Perry and do the correction.
At Perry Cat sent 2 trucks and a supervisor and they spent 2 days and $5000 replacing our actuvator valve housings, a total of 3 that are under the valve cover pan.
We did all the prep in the coach including plastic on the floor and the tecks did the rest. The guys who worked on our coach were CAT tecks from the Blue Bird factory.
They work on all the C13s that don't respond when Blue Bird puts them in coaches and buses. They spent 2 days on our coach and were very impressed with our engine access, much better then BB. They came from the CAT shop called Yance in Macon, Georgia. The tecks were great and the engine light has not come on since they completed the work, 1000 miles ago. This is just one example of what can be done at rallies if you go and insist on something that is important. The CAT guys spent another day at our CG doing other brand coaches and then went over to FMCA to do more warranty and repair work. Sometimes it's a matter of finding the right people to solve your problems.

Bill G. 05 Magna #6425

Re: Moultrie was a diaster

Reply #10 –
Yahoo Message Number: 15834
Bill

Glad to hear that your problems may have been solved.
CC could have saved alot of money and caused you less frustration if they had brought the right people in from the outset. Hope this is the end of your problems!

We had an interesting experience on our way home to Vienna. On I-20 in Georgia a spare tire broke off a motor home dollie and slammed through the front of our coach, bounced around underneath and exited the left rear bending the angle iron that holds the mud flap like it was tin foil. We left the coach at Buddy Gregg in Knoxville and they were going to access all of the damage before providing an estimate. I would bet it is in the $5-6K range. Thank God for the coach armor, it absorbed much of the impact before the fiberglass, headlights, etc. were smashed.

Gene

--- gablerwh@... wrote:

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Per,

I agree with you that Moultrie was a disaster but > ITdisagree with you on the

things that get done at rallies. We arrived at > moultrie with an engine problem

on our C-13 that would not go away. We have 7000 > miles on our 05 Mag and have

been to the Cat shop in Tampa 6 times and still get > a check engine light

every 30 miles. When we arrived at the rally we told > CCI to fix it or else before

we leave the rally or Perry. The Cat rep asked us to > wait till Perry because

of the mud at Moultie and they would come to our > campground accross from Perry
and do the correction.

At Perry Cat sent 2 trucks and a supervisor and they > spent 2 days and $5000

replacing our actuvator valve housings, a total of 3 > that are under the valve
cover pan.

We did all the prep in the coach including plastic > on the floor and the tecks

did the rest. The guys who worked on our coach were > CAT tecks from the Blue
Bird factory.

They work on all the C13s that don't respond when > Blue Bird puts them in

coaches and buses. They spent 2 days on our coach > and were very impressed with our > engine access, much better then BB. They came from > the CAT shop called Yance

in Macon, Georgia. The tecks were great and the > engine light has not come on

since they completed the work, 1000 miles ago. This > is just one example of what

can be done at rallies if you go and insist on > something that is important.

The CAT guys spent another day at our CG doing other > brand coaches and then

went over to FMCA to do more warranty and repair > work. Sometimes it's a matter of > finding the right people to solve your problems.

Bill G. 05 Magna #6425
Gene Clendenin

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Re: Moultrie was a diaster

Reply #11 –
Yahoo Message Number: 15838
Bill,

I glad you apparently got your engine problem fixed, and hope it stays fixed for you. My impression was the technicians were overwhelmed at Moultrie, and some folks got good work done, others, like us, got little work donw. Our friends in the 95 Affinity made out well, they left with a lot fewer probems than they came with. I guess the C-13 has had some problems--will probably look for a C-12 when it comes time for replacement, if we don't buy a used Prevost.

Per

--- gablerwh@... wrote:

Re: Moultrie was a diaster

Reply #12 –
Yahoo Message Number: 15935
Gene,

Did you get the owner of the tire to pay for your damage? or did they get away.

Bill g. 2005 Magna #6425

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Reply #13 –
Yahoo Message Number: 15938
Bill

Yes he stopped since the tire hit and did damage to the car he was towing. I reported it to his State Farm agent and have heard nothing since getting a confirmation call. Buddy Gregg said it would take a couple of weeks to get the parts. It happened very fast!
.

--- gablerwh@... wrote:

Quote
Gene,

Did you get the owner of the tire to pay for your > damage? or did they get
away.

Bill g. 2005 Magna #6425
Gene Clendenin

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Reply #14 –
Yahoo Message Number: 15972
Paul

To the best of my knowledge they are built on the top of the line Spartan chassis. We met a guy in Florida that bought a new 45 ft Newmar Essex for $380K and it is beautiful, and we have friends that have an Affinity that really like the Travel Supreme.

We looked at Monaco at Perry and were shocked to learn that they still have a solid front axle and have no intention of going to IFS. My wife likes one Monaco floor plan that has the bed stationary, but both sides of the bedroom slide out. Our friends that have CC bedroom slides tell us that arrangement is not as great as it looks when one person has to climb over their partner to get out when the room is in.

Our 40' Intrigue new in 1999 listed for $240K and the 06 Intrigue list price is more than double that price.
I bought a new 1995 Toyota Avalaon that listed for $33K and can buy an 05 Avalon that also list for $33K.
It is true that an 06 Intrigue has alot more features than our 99, but the same can be said for the Toyota.

It is my belief that CC prices are going to become an issue as more and more companies bring competitive products to market. One of the CC sales people told a guy that bought a new Magna in Georgia that his company has to make at least $30K profit on every sale.

Safe travels.

[quote author=Gene
Clendenin

> Paul
>

> Did you look at the Newmar Exxex and the Travel > > Supreme top of the line units? We looked at > > everything at Perry and was curious what others > > thought of those units. I think CC builds a good > > product, but from my perspective, their cost is > > getting ridiculous. For the retail price of an > > Intrigue through the Afffinity, one can buy one, > or

> possibly multiple vacation homes that will > appreciate
> in value.
>

> Gene

> --- pcummings4 wrote:
> >

> > Driving new Intigue 06 in Perry Ga. was a treat.
 CC

> > has increased

> > the weight to get that "Bus Ride" many us want.
I

> > also drove a 38'

> > Blue Bird that weight about the same as the 42' > > > Intrigue. Both have

> > that heavy, smooth ride. I was impressed with > the

> > guality of new

> > 06' Intrigue but my wife noted storage is > reduced so

> > you will need

> > the 42' to get the same storage as the older 40' > > > Intrigue. Country

> > Coach has to do the 4 slide but I am not sure > how

> > important that

> > will be to buyers. For us, we were looking in > Perry

> > for what coach

> > we want next. Right now we are very please with > our

> > 01' Intigue.

> > It is the Best! for us.
> >

> > My conculions, heavy rides best and CC has the > best

> > combinations or

> > balance of workmanship, service, quality, > interior

> > design and

> > chassis componets.
> >

> > PS, we pulled out through mud in 3rd gear with > no

> > problems, most

> > thank full to be on "Solid Ground".
> >

> > Paul and Nancy Cummings
> > 01' Intrigue, #11309
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

> Gene Clendenin
>
>
>
>
>

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