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Re: 12R tires

Reply #25
Yahoo Message Number: 21999
Ray,

I wouldn't run right out and change them because Toyo & CC may be having problems, that is unless you have a lot of money burning a hole in your pocket.

Gary F. Bender

04' Intigue (Toyo tires since new, work good and staying on)

Re: 12R tires

Reply #26
Yahoo Message Number: 22001
The G670RV's do not touch. Of course any tire on dual will touch if not inflated properly, even the TOYO's I had.

Jim Hughes

2000 Allure #30511

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As long as you have kept your pressures up and you have inspected

your tires

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thoroughly for cracks, lumps, and tred deformation, I "guess your

OK" But I

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had a friend try to stretch his Michelins 90 days and it cost a

rear quarter

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panel, wiring and a new radiator.etc, etc. . I appreciate the

heads up on

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the goodyears possibly rubbing in the dual position.. TWI 2004

Intrigue

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Re: 12R tires

Reply #27
Yahoo Message Number: 22005
I appreciate everyone contributing so much thoughtful conversation on such an important topic. Buying 8 new tires for my coach almost requires a bank loan and is not an activity to be entered into lightly.
Many years ago, I read that the tire spacing is a critical factor in dual applications for heat dissipation. I know that the G670's don't touch because nice people like Jim have contributed to this forum. My concern is "does the spacing on the G670 in a dual application meet the minimum manufacturers requirement"? I understand that when dual tire spacing is reduced, the duals do not cool as well because the tires radiate heat to each other and this extra heat can cause premature tire failure.

So the issue as I see it is NOT if they touch, but if the spacing meets or exceeds that manufacturers specification for dual applications.

The Goodyear web site does not have any tire separation specification listed.

The Michelin web site has the spacing spec for the 12R22.5 as 13.2 inches, which is the same spec as the Toyo tires and the same spec as my 2003 Intrigue.

If anyone knows a reliable source for the Goodyear spacing specs for the G670 RV 295/80R22.5 tire, please share it with us. I have not eliminated the G670RV tire from my consideration, but I must say that the Michelins are looking like a better fit for my coach -- and anything that gives me greater "peace of mind" is a good thing.

Thanks for all your help.

Bob Kumza
2003 Intrigue

Quote from: Jim Hughes

Re: 12R tires

Reply #28
Yahoo Message Number: 22013
I changed my Toyo's to the Goodyear G670's in December 2005. I use Smartire and have been watching the readings on the temperatures.
So far, the temps on the front tires while not high, have been higher than any of the duals. Both the inside and outside duals have been a few degrees of each other. Of course the weather has been on the cool side so far, so the summer here in Florida will provide even more data in how the tires perform.

I am not promoting Goodyear over any other brand and can only speak to my own experiences with these tires so far. Hopefully, the research I did before hand will pay off in years to come.

Jim Hughes

2000 Allure #30511

Jim Hughes

Quote from: rvrobert2003
I appreciate everyone contributing so much thoughtful conversation

on

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such an important topic. Buying 8 new tires for my coach almost > requires a bank loan and is not an activity to be entered into

lightly.

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>

Many years ago, I read that the tire spacing is a critical factor

in

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dual applications for heat dissipation. I know that the G670's

don't

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touch because nice people like Jim have contributed to this

forum. My

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concern is "does the spacing on the G670 in a dual application

meet

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the minimum manufacturers requirement"? I understand that when

dual

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tire spacing is reduced, the duals do not cool as well because the > tires radiate heat to each other and this extra heat can cause > premature tire failure.

So the issue as I see it is NOT if they touch, but if the spacing > meets or exceeds that manufacturers specification for dual > applications.

The Goodyear web site does not have any tire separation
specification

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listed.

The Michelin web site has the spacing spec for the 12R22.5 as 13.2 > inches, which is the same spec as the Toyo tires and the same spec

as

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my 2003 Intrigue.

If anyone knows a reliable source for the Goodyear spacing specs

for

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the G670 RV 295/80R22.5 tire, please share it with us. I have not > eliminated the G670RV tire from my consideration, but I must say

that

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the Michelins are looking like a better fit for my coach -- and > anything that gives me greater "peace of mind" is a good thing.

Thanks for all your help.

Bob Kumza
2003 Intrigue

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> The G670RV's do not touch. Of course any tire on dual will

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Re: 12R tires

Reply #29
Yahoo Message Number: 22025
Question:

It looks to me that the Good Year G159-22.5 Load range H is a very, very near match to the Toyo M111Z that came originaly on my coach or am I missing something?

Marvin Swenson

2001 intrigue 36'#11314

Quote from: Jim Hughes
The G670RV's do not touch. Of course any tire on dual will touch

if

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not inflated properly, even the TOYO's I had.

Jim Hughes

2000 Allure #30511

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> As long as you have kept your pressures up and you have

inspected

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your tires

> thoroughly for cracks, lumps, and tred deformation, I "guess

your

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OK" But I

> had a friend try to stretch his Michelins 90 days and it cost a
rear quarter

> panel, wiring and a new radiator.etc, etc. . I appreciate the
heads up on

> the goodyears possibly rubbing in the dual position.. TWI 2004
Intrigue
> 11731
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