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After CC

Yahoo Message Number: 62486
The question of whether the Lee's will bring back CC got me thinking. In a few years, I am going to want to get a new or newer coach. If CC is not an option, what do I get? I thought I would see what others think. I will also give some opinions: I think the best coach out there excluding Prevost conversions is the Newell, but they are a bit too pricey and big for me. I have and love my 36' Intrigue, and was bemoaning CC not wanting to build smaller coaches in the years leading up to their collapse. I do not want a coach plopped on a Freightliner or Spartan chassis. So that leaves, unless I missed something, Monaco (I just bit my tongue) or Foretravel. The Beaver seems nice, interior well done. But enough of that, what do others think or plan to do?

Al Colby

2000 Intrigue 10979

Re: After CC

Reply #1
Yahoo Message Number: 62487
I just went through this same thought process, and decided to just rebuild the interior of my existing 40' Intrigue. Probably save 60% over a new one, I will have a known quantity on the chassis, and have exactly the electronics and configuration I want. Food for thought.

Jack Nichols, 2003 Intrigue, old electronics and TVs - great coach.

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Reply #2
Yahoo Message Number: 62502
Al,

At the recent FMCA convention, Barbara and I looked at a few coaches. Sure there was the Newell at a mil plus, the Marathon conversion (2 mil, 48 thousand). Beautiful coach but like you said, out of my league.
We looked at the Tiffin products and I feel that they are the CC replacement. Reasonably priced, nice layouts, and they have the old style CC support from the owner. Bob Tiffin was there and I had a chance to talk to him a bit. He is committed to producing the best he can for the price.

Now a story:

Friends of ours were at the last CC homecoming. They wanted a 36 foot Magna and told a Howard that they would pay list price, no questions ask if CC would build them a 36ft. Howard told them that there wasn't any money in the 36ft line so they wouldn't build it. Just goes to show the excellent business sense of the now defunct CC which is to bad.

Don

'02 Intrigue #11427
'02 Intrigue #11427


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Reply #4
Yahoo Message Number: 62572
Al,

The Phaeton is Freightliner or Spartan now based on your choices but the Allegro Bus is built on their custom Powerglide chassis. Haven't driven either but would try them both out if something happened to our coach.
Safe travels,
Kathy

'06 Inspire #51782

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Reply #5
Yahoo Message Number: 62573
Al,

Our target size was 38-42'. I wanted a tag, and 38' tags are few and far between. We had three primary makers on our short list:

CC Allure/Intrique/Magana models (with Intrique being the target model of this maker)

Foretravel

U295/U320 (Most FT's have smaller galley's, and a long counter galley was a strong 'must have' by my wife.)

Tavel Supreme

Any model considered, but preferred the not as glitzy non Select.

I said three, but always also looked at Alpines too.
We drove a 2002 42' Beaver Marquis, with CAT C12 (or C13). This was the Roadmaster S chassis. Liked the ride, but just a few things did not seem to hit us right. Suspect the Patriot Thunder would have been a better match for us.
Not trying to ding Tiffin, as I have no first hand usage experience. But all of the units I looked at in the same age/miles as the rest of the ones being considered, did not seem to be holding up as well. Materials, wood work, aged workmanship - all seemed just a bit less then the other maker's coaches mentioned. (Sure could have been just the luck of what I went into.)
I liked the 'safety' of Rexhall Roseaire, more then any other unit I looked at (well, except Foretravel, call that a wash). Their steel cage around the driver is impressive. I think Rexhall's T-Rex slides are great engineering, and very practical floor layouts. With the ISL and Spartan Mountain Master chassis, I liked the total package bang for the buck. Again, not many of these came available during this time, and was not really on my radar as a wait until I find it.
The Allure came along, and it is now our Allure. The BIG galley (High Cascade, and non slide galley) was a big hit with my wife. I felt the lighter 40', with ISL 370 and Allison 3000 being lighter too, had better performance then the Beaver Marquis with the heavier CAT/bigger Allison/Bigger differentials/etc. I think the other factor that pushed us into this rig at this time, is the unusual pricing pressures of this day. We paid a fair price, not rock bottom, but much less then I had expected when I started my research 18 months ago.
If you feel that you are within a three year window. I would suggest you consider pulling that time frame into between now and the next 6-9 months. As the economy turns around, and it will, baby boomers will be back out shopping again - prices will go up. Buying now, you could save some serious coin...
Of course, as Dennis Miller would sometimes say 'I could be wrong...'

Best of luck,
Smitty

04 Allure 40' 31017
04 Allure Sold to a nice new owner! Now enjoying a 07 Magna Rembrandt 45' ISX600 #6775
"We're ONDROAD for THEJRNY!" (Toad and Coach license plates, say Hi if you see us!)

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Yahoo Message Number: 62592
GSmith,

We are selling our 40' 04 Allure (31097) with 31600 miles. If you don't mind can you give us a ball park price that you paid for it. This market seems to be very difficult to gage a fair price.
Good luck with your new purchase, we sure enjoyed ours before deciding to get off the road.

Larry & Judy Gallagher
04 Allure 31097

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Yahoo Message Number: 62595
PM sent..
Smitty
04 Allure Sold to a nice new owner! Now enjoying a 07 Magna Rembrandt 45' ISX600 #6775
"We're ONDROAD for THEJRNY!" (Toad and Coach license plates, say Hi if you see us!)