Skip to main content ↑ ↓
Topic: Slide Stopped (Read 2199 times) previous topic - next topic
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Slide Stopped

Yahoo Message Number: 5249
After two years with a procedure of arriving at a site, shutting down the Cat., leveling, and then putting the galley slide out, we now find that the slide won't move without starting the engine.
Country Coach Support tells me that is due to the high amperage draw of the slide hydralic pump, and that it is normal. "Always start the engine before moving the slide", end quote. I'm wondering why it wasn't normal for two very active years, but is now.

Comments Please....

Tom B.

2000 Magna Indulgence

Re: Slide Stopped

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5250
Tom,I only leave the key on, with engine shut off and put hte slide out or in.

Ray g #5940 01 Magna

Re: Slide Stopped

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5253
Quote
Comments Please....

Tom B.

2000 Magna Indulgence
I own the same coach and it has never happened to me. I did install two Lifeline AGM coach batteries two years ago. The Les Schwabs (sp) are junk. I've owned three CCs and the coach batteries have gone south on all of them. The Lifeline dealer told me the Les Schwabs are not true deep cycle batteries. jerry in NM, '00 Magna.

Re: Slide Stopped

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5254
Maybe the high amperage draw explains why my slide motor just clicked when I tried to retract the slide after it was sitting for weeks while at my house. It was plugged into 15 amp shore power but the battery may still have been a little low. I thought it had got stuck because it would retract after cranking the valves open but I may have been wrong. It has worked flawlessly since.

Re: Slide Stopped

Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5257
I wonder if the batteries have become marginal, or perhaps one dead cell?
Dan

Quote from: goo681fe
After two years with a procedure of arriving at a site, shutting > down the Cat., leveling, and then putting the galley slide out, we > now find that the slide won't move without starting the engine.

Country Coach Support tells me that is due to the high amperage

draw

Re: Slide Stopped

Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5258
Tom b.

I believe that during your 1st 2 years your batteries were stronger and it did not make any difference. We always put our galley slide out before turning off the engine. I level the coach and put out the slide with the engine running. Don't always do that with the bedroom slide but that slide is a lot smaller.
We put the slides in without the engine running because the power is on and the batteries are high, however if we are dry camping I always open and close the slides with the engine running. We also have our slides serviced once a year which is just cleaning and checking connections and using a slide lubriciant on the rubber and other moving parts.

Bill G. 2001 Magna #5998

Re: Slide Stopped

Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5260
While I often have the engine running while operating the slide, I also like to operate the slide with the engine off, ignition switch on AND plugged into shore power. Great approach for getting ready to leave camp. Before disconnecting shore power, retract slides (ignition switch on, engine off). Complete packing. Start engine and quickly get the noisy diesel out of camp. I feel my slides operates smoother and as quickly when connected to shore power, than when having the engine run.
Herb

Allure 2002 #30690

Quote from: goo681fe
After two years with a procedure of arriving at a site, shutting > down the Cat., leveling, and then putting the galley slide out, we > now find that the slide won't move without starting the engine.

Country Coach Support tells me that is due to the high amperage

draw

Re: Slide Stopped - Slide Lube and service

Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5265
What is specifically done during the service? What kind of lube is used and how and where is it applied?

Jim

2000 Allure #30511

Re: Slide Stopped

Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5268
Question regarding putting slides OUT with engine running vrs putting slide out with engine off....

I like to have my coach as low to the ground as possible. With the engine running, even if I completely dump air before leveling, doesn't the running coach attempt to add air and therefore make the coach higher off the ground than is leveling is done - and then deploying the slides - with the engine off?

Help please.

2002 Intrigue 36' double slide #11419 Tom Sims

Re: Slide Stopped

Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5271
Not so good news!!! My rig had the same symptoms, slide went in and out on batteries, then needed to run the engine. My chassis batteries just expired (2000 Intrigue). Good Luck!!

Chuck Gauthier
Intrigue 11142

Re: Slide Stopped - Slide Lube and service

Reply #10 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5272
I have a 2000 Intrigue and I was told specifically NOT to use lube on my slide rails. The weight bearing material is UHMW (ultra high molecular weight) plastic and lube will only sit on the surface and collect dust and grime, causing wear.

Wiping down with a dry rag is all that I have done.

Chuck Gauthier

2000 Intrigue 11142

Quote from: Jim Hughes
What is specifically done during the service? What kind of lube is > used and how and where is it applied? >
Jim

2000 Allure #30511

Quote from: gablerwh@a...
> Tom b.

> I believe that during your 1st 2 years your batteries were

stronger

Quote
and it

> did not make any difference. We always put our galley slide out > before turning

> off the engine. I level the coach and put out the slide with the > engine

> running. Don't always do that with the bedroom slide but that

slide

Quote
is a lot smaller.

> We put the slides in without the engine running because the power > is on and

> the batteries are high, however if we are dry camping I always

open

Re: Slide Stopped-re:Lifeline AGM

Reply #11 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5276
Gerald. Did you only change out the "house" batteries, or the starting batteries as well? I need to learn more about AGM as the life of the Factory set seems incredibly short.

Also, thanks to everyone for the info.

Tom B.

Re: Slide Stopped

Reply #12 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5281
Quote from: goo681fe
After two years with a procedure of arriving at a site, shutting > down the Cat., leveling, and then putting the galley slide out, we > now find that the slide won't move without starting the engine.

Country Coach Support tells me that is due to the high amperage

draw

Re: Slide Stopped

Reply #13 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5285
Tom, the engine does not need to run to work the slide, if the batteries are low then the engine running helps. Also I used to let all the air out before leveling, then I talked to HWH and they recommended level without dumping.I have found the coach to level faster and the aux air pump runs a lot less, and have never had the door side up to high.

Ray G

01 Magna #5940

Re: Slide Stopped

Reply #14 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5287
Tom B., sorry I did not answer sooner, I was on the road. AGM batteries were designed for military use in aircraft. They are sealed units with porous fiberglass mats between the plates for strength.
They are resistant to shock and vibration and can be mounted in any position, even upside down. They have more surface area on the plates which gives them lower internal resistancea and thus higher amperage rating. Lifeline makes the civilian version in many different sizes and uses. They are guaranteed for five years and cost over four hundred each for deepcycle 8Ds. They make crankning batteries also but I have'nt needed these yet. jerry in NM, '00 Magna.

Re: Slide Stopped

Reply #15 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5295
Last year we had problems with our slide, used the pulley to bring it in, and drove to the factory in Moscow Iowa where they spent a day checking our slide out. They must have run the slide in and out at least twenty times after exposing all of the workings, and not once did they start the engine. I asked them about that as the factory on walk thru had told me to always start the engine before moving the slides. The factory personnel told me they never start the engine to activate the slide, that there is no problem running the slide in and out without the engine runnine. We never start the engine to put the slides in and out anymore and have had not problemssince. p.s. no, they found nothing wrong with our slides. I think it was my naivete, inexperience, and apprehension,.

Ron and Molly

Re: Slide Stopped - Slide Lube and service

Reply #16 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5299
What about the seals? How do you maintain them?

Jim

2000 Allure #30511

Quote from: intrigue11142
> I have a 2000 Intrigue and I was told specifically NOT to use lube

on

Quote
my slide rails. The weight bearing material is UHMW (ultra high > molecular weight) plastic and lube will only sit on the surface and > collect dust and grime, causing wear.

Wiping down with a dry rag is all that I have done.

Chuck Gauthier

2000 Intrigue 11142

[quote author=Jim Hughes"

> What is specifically done during the service? What kind of lube

is

Quote
used and how and where is it applied? > >
> Jim

> 2000 Allure #30511
>
>
>

Quote from: gablerwh@a...
> > Tom b.

> > I believe that during your 1st 2 years your batteries were > stronger
> and it

> > did not make any difference. We always put our galley slide out > > before turning

> > off the engine. I level the coach and put out the slide with

the

Quote
engine

> > running. Don't always do that with the bedroom slide but that > slide

> is a lot smaller.

> > We put the slides in without the engine running because the

power

Quote
is on and

> > the batteries are high, however if we are dry camping I always > open

> and close

> > the slides with the engine running. We also have our slides > > serviced once a

> > year which is just cleaning and checking connections and using

a

Re: Slide Stopped - Slide Lube and service

Reply #17 –
Yahoo Message Number: 5322
My information (baed on a tip from a CC person when I was having some leaking from A/C condensation) was that the seals work the best when they are dry.

I was advised NOT to lube them and NOT to wax or lubricate the sides of the slides. c

Quote from: Jim Hughes
What about the seals? How do you maintain them? >
Jim

2000 Allure #30511

[quote author=intrigue11142"

> I have a 2000 Intrigue and I was told specifically NOT to use

lube

Quote
on

> my slide rails. The weight bearing material is UHMW (ultra high > > molecular weight) plastic and lube will only sit on the surface

and

Quote
collect dust and grime, causing wear.
>

> Wiping down with a dry rag is all that I have done.
>

> Chuck Gauthier

> 2000 Intrigue 11142
>
>

[quote author=Jim Hughes"
>]
> > What is specifically done during the service? What kind of

lube

Quote
is

> > used and how and where is it applied? > > >
> > Jim

> > 2000 Allure #30511
> >
> >

> > -