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Ladder

Yahoo Message Number: 86673
We have a 2000 Magna 40' with no ladder on the back.
Has anyone put a ladder on one of these coaches? It appears that the fiberglass is thicker on the right side. Also, where could I find the "right" ladder? Chris and Cheryl Herron

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Yahoo Message Number: 86675
We carry a telescoping ladder which I think works much better. Here's a shot of it:

http://muniac.smugmug.com/Maintenance/Bus-Works/i-sFwwgJZ/0/M/IMG_1136-M.jpg The ladder can be moved around which is handy. It can also be used to access all the vertical surfaces which are out of reach. The ladder is a bit heavy and not cheap, however. If used in freezing weather/snow the telescoping mechanism will need to be thawed out if it has accumulated moisture in it. Something to consider perhaps. As for a fixed ladder, we have none installed. No plans to install one either.

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Yahoo Message Number: 86676
We agree as to the use of a telescoping ladder... works great and takes up very little room.
Can be moved around the coach as needed,

Russ

05 Intrigue
11883

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Yahoo Message Number: 86678
On my 2000 40' Magna, the ladder is on the rear, driver's side of the coach. pete

2000 40' Magna #5892
Pete
 2000 40'  Magna #5892  CAT C-10

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Yahoo Message Number: 86685
Scott: How tall does your ladder extend and where did you get it?

Thanks,
Bill
2008 SOB

Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Scott" the_muniac We carry a telescoping ladder which I think works much better. Here's a shot of it:

http://muniac. smugmug.com/ Maintenance/ Bus-Works/ i-sFwwgJZ/ 0/M/IMG_1136- M.jpg The ladder can be moved around which is handy. It can also be used to access all the vertical surfaces which are out of reach. The ladder is a bit heavy and not cheap, however. If used in freezing weather/snow the telescoping mechanism will need to be thawed out if it has accumulated moisture in it. Something to consider perhaps. As for a fixed ladder, we have none installed. No plans to install one either.

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Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 86687
I agree that the telescoping ladder is far more useful than the permanent one. Both of mine extended 12 1/2 feet but they come in different lengths. The coach also looks better without it in my opinion. Specially if it has a step ladder strapped to it.
They also come in a wide range of prices. The thing to watch out for is the way the extension releases are constructed. The ones with a release that only has a place to press with your finger are bad news. Make sure it has something like a ring to get a hold of.

Don Seager

Former 2004 Allure Owner

"W. O. Ward" wrote:

Scott: How tall does your ladder extend and where did you get it?

Thanks,
Bill
2008 SOB

Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Scott" the_muniac We carry a telescoping ladder which I think works much better. Here's a shot of it:

http://muniac. smugmug.com/ Maintenance/ Bus-Works/ i-sFwwgJZ/ 0/M/IMG_1136- M.jpg The ladder can be moved around which is handy. It can also be used to access all the vertical surfaces which are out of reach. The ladder is a bit heavy and not cheap, however. If used in freezing weather/snow the telescoping mechanism will need to be thawed out if it has accumulated moisture in it. Something to consider perhaps. As for a fixed ladder, we have none installed. No plans to install one either.

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Yahoo Message Number: 86690
Awhile back I was inquiring about putting a ladder on the back of my 07 Allure....ladder $525.00; assist extension $225.00 from Country Coach plus installation. At that price, I bought one of the collapsable/telescoping ladders of about 1/3 of that, on Ebay. It's works just fine, but it's one more thing one has to store "below".
Oh one thing about collapsable/telescoping ladders...they can pinch your fingers big time if you're not paying attention.

Bill Englund
07 Allure
07 Wrangler

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Yahoo Message Number: 86692
Bill - My ladder is 15' tall. Actually too tall. Don't remember where I purchased it. I'd do a search for them on the internet. I remember paying around $260 for it. Not cheap!

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Yahoo Message Number: 86698
I have been dealing with the Ladder situation too: Home Depot has an extendable ladder, similar to the ones shown, in a couple different lengths.
The permanent mount ladder is available from Topline mfg co., suppose to be CC OEM, not sure about that, it has to be ordered and special production, about 225. plus shipping, not cheap for shipping, #given to me by Topline was TL10601 if anyone is interested. That was for my Allure 470, 2007 #31459

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Yahoo Message Number: 86703
Search telescopic ladder on Amazon. 12'5" for 104 with free prime shipping. They have other sizes as well.

Mikee

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Yahoo Message Number: 86704
Scott,

How tall does your ladder extend to, I like the idea of a telescoping ladder but they come a few different sizes, 12.5 ft, 14.5 ft.ant thoughts on how tall?

Ben Kitay

2008 Intrigue # 12247

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Reply #12 –
Yahoo Message Number: 86705
Ben - My ladder is 15' tall. Actually too tall. Don't remember where I purchased it. I'd do a search for them on the internet. I remember paying around $260 for it. Not cheap! A little extra length comes with a small amount of increased size and weight. Keeping some of the ladder retracted means a bigger step up and off near the ground. You can, however, keep rungs closed evenly up the length if you want. Just a consideration. What the extra length does buy is being able to angle the ladder out more at the base and still reach your target. I've found this helpful when transitioning onto the roof. Also for washing windows and waxing. An angled ladder is easier to stand on, hold on to and work in one place from. Not pearls of wisdom but just my thoughts after using the product for 5 years in a variety of situations.

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Yahoo Message Number: 86721
Chris and Cheryl


I purchased my Coach new from Guaranty RV in Junction City Oregon. At the time of purchase I had them add a luggage rack ladder. The ladder is on the drivers side. So Any good RV dealer should be able to find a Luggage rack and ladder to fit your Coach.
Hope this helps.
Bo & Kathy Lee

2000 Magna #5896 40 FT

2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited
Rubicon

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Yahoo Message Number: 86727
we carry a telescoping Werner Ladder (same design as the Little Giant) purchased from Home Depot.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/100658952?productId=100658952 I made a open end plywood trunk for it so I can easily slide the ladder in and out and yet still pile all kinds of stuff on top of it. This is a VERY solid stable 8' step ladder when extended, plus it folds out and becomes an extension ladder as well.
BUT... I also kept the ladder on the back of our coach. It only comes down as far as the engine compartment and then there is a second length that kind of clips over the bottom rung of the fixed half ladder to extend all the way down. I wanted to preserve this but not have to carry the extension piece in the storage bins. So I ordered some round wall ladder mounts through Guaranty RV. The cups on those fit the perpendicular feet on the lattter extension perfectly... So I mounted these in a convenient reinforced spot on the rear panel of the coach and move the horizontal feet to fit the location. Then I drilled through both the cups and the feet and used little quick release pins on lanyards (sailboat type gear) to hold them in place. It takes only a few seconds to pull the pins, pull out the ladder feet and slide it off the top ladder so I can get to the engine compartment easily. Looks pretty trick and pretty OEM. I can post some photos if anyone is interested

Joseph Burkle

2008 Country Coach Inspire 360 Founders Edition 43' quad slide tag axle 425 HP C9 pusher http://www. Wind-seeker.com/

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Yahoo Message Number: 86750
I got my 12.5 ft ladde3r at Jerry's near the Eugene Airport for $120.00 less than the current price at Camping World. They are asking $299.00 on special today in their Master Catalog I just received.
TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731

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Yahoo Message Number: 86782
I use a double sided rung ladder 7 foot tall. It folds up to a 5X5 in square 7 feet long and will fit in those 6X6 plastic fence post covers that come with press on end caps. I store it along side my propane tank. At Camping World for under $200. I have not seen a more convenient ladder that can be stowed out of the way.

Dan 2006 Allure 31348

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Reply #20 –
Yahoo Message Number: 86785
Scott, When you say the ladder is "Actually too tall." do you use it the access the roof? Can you get on and off the Roof, OK..Marvin, 07 Allure #31459

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Yahoo Message Number: 86786
Bill - Perhaps I could have been clearer. The thrust of my comment regarding ladder length was the extra rungs in my ladder haven't been used. In all the applications in and around the bus, I've never fully extended the ladder. The implication here is a slightly shorter ladder would work fine. Something I didn't know when I purchased mine. Yes I can access the roof from all sides fine. Same for slides and other vertical surfaces out of reach from the mortal man.

Under certain circumstances (

http://muniac.smugmug.com/Maintenance/Bus-Works/i-st2XsgQ/0/M/IMG_1147-M.jpg ) transitioning on/off the roof gets tricky. A variety of factors contribute to this. Water, wax, weather, available hand holds, mud, trees and ladder angle are some. As for ladder angle, I find increasing the included angle between the ladder and bus make it easier to execute a safe/reliable transition to and fro. In addition to the proper included angle, keeping the top rung of the ladder as close to the roof as possible helps. For me that's just under the quarter round. On my ladder the terminations at the top are hard plastic. These tend to slide easily if not enough force is exerted pushing the ladder against the side. Increasing the included angle helps here. I'd guess a couple of those foam rubber beer can holders could be inverted and slipped over the hard plastic to help the grab. Haven't tried this yet.
The goal is to avoid a serious fall that might create an injury you'll likely deal with for the rest of your life. Think twice and move once in the right direction. Make sure your setup is proper for the intended points of access. Stay near hand holds when and where possible. Corner the ladder into the slides if possible to decrease the possibility of it sliding sideways. I have a favorite spot I use to get on/off the roof which I try not to change. All the movements I need to perform a safe roof entrance and exit are familiar and in the mind's eye in this spot.
No El CaBong yet. Be safe out there!

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Yahoo Message Number: 86787
Marvin

I bought my coach when it was about a year old and there were numerous scuff marks around the edge of the roof line. I believe it was due to leaning a ladder against the side of the coach as there was no ladder on the coach. I since had a ladder installed as I don't see how you can safely get on the roof without it.

Dan 2006 Allure 31348

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Yahoo Message Number: 86788
Hey Tom,

You got a heck of a deal at $120. It must have been on clearance. I called Jerry's, Eugene. They had none on hand. Today's price is $229.99 for 12.5 ft. Jerry's must order thru ACE a week in advance for delivery to store. They also offer 8.8 ft for $144.99 and 15 ft for $289.99. Looks like they are available thru any ACE affiliated store at these prices.
Daron Hairabedian, 98 Allure 30226


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Yahoo Message Number: 86792
Daron: I don't believe he said he paid $120.00 for the ladder but $120.00 less than the current price at Camper World. Barrie Boas 94 Concept 5111 (with ladder)