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Memory Loss ( my own) and Batteries

Yahoo Message Number: 6518
Ok....Looks like the 8D's are headed for the scrap pile. I checked the electrolite this morning and at least one cell of one battery still says "NOPE"!! ( I just have the little "make the balls float" type of checker at present....but will get a "real" hydrometer..I promise I will...*S*)

I cant believe that ONE TIME running the inverter to watch TV..and running the battery down to 11.8 volts can kill a battery of this size. ALWAYS plugged into 120V here at home...and at campgrounds...and recieves a charge when Im driving. NEVER ran water low...ever! JUNK!!

Now..to my question. WHY is it that I want 105's / 145's over new 8D's?? Other than the fact I need to rent a tow motor to pull these boat anchors out of the llure...*S*

More reserve power/life....more amp hours...or ??

Thanks!

Sully.....kb8oxo@...

Re: Memory Loss ( my own) and Batteries

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6529
Well the generator would have had to crank off of the coach batteries and those were depleted, so I'm not surprised. Did you try starting the engine and then cranking the genset?

We're planning on using our inverter when we go dry camping this week to watch a DVD movie. Our batteries are new and will be fully charged. How long would it take if running the TV, stereo radio and a DVD player to deplete those batteries? Maybe we should fire the gen set while watching the movie??

Dan & Ann
Allure #30180

Re: Memory Loss ( my own) and Batteries

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6530
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Sully:

Like David my coach was built in late 99 and my coach batteries are original. They were well cared for by previous owner. My engine battery went bad (one cell) and had to be replaced. They are not that heavy really.

My point to be made is don't assume that your coach batteries are being charged while driving. That is only true when the CC installed switch is working. Look at the archived information on this subject.
An easy way to check if it is working is to read the coach battery voltage at the battery before the engine starts and if the switch is working , shortly after it starts the voltage should go up. The switch does exactely the same thing as your combiner button on the shifter console.

I feel you have a bad cell or cells, based on the point you say you keep it plugged in when stored.

My switch is broken and I have chosen to leave it that way as I only charge the coach batteries with the inverter pluged in during storage.
My personal opinion is that the 8D is perfectly adequate for the job and more reasonably priced, and no change to be made to the inverter for battery design requirements. You may want to confer with CC on this point

James M. Green Intrigue 11021

"and recieves a charge when Im driving. "

In Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com, "rvman4u" wrote:

Re: Memory Loss ( my own) and Batteries

Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6532
Dave and Karen...just thought I'd put in my 2 cents re: your battery problem. It is my understanding (from classes at CC) that one cannot run the microwave unless you have the generator on (or shore power)...it cannot run off the batteries.

Also, did you try to use the switch that allows you to use the engine batteries to bridge over to the house batteries to start the generator? It's in the manual how to do it. It worked for us the one time we ran our batteries low.

Also, what inverter do you still have? We had problems with our original inverter and had CC switch it over to a Trace which has given us no problems. Before that, our Invertrex never seemed to keep the batteries doing whatever they were supposed to be doing...we were always running low on power.

Just a couple of thoughts...happy travels...Jan and Chris McNeill 2001 Intrigue 11320

microwave power sources

Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6533
Hi Folks,

The wall outlets, TVs and microwave are fed 120vac through the inverter. The inverter has 3 sources of power - shore (120 vac), generator (120vac) and batteries (12 vdc). I use the batteries for midday stops to operate the microwave - it works fine for periods up to 15 minutes. Usually am back on the road and the alternator recharges the batteries at a reasonalble rate. Only caution is to monitor the voltage during battery use - I stop inverter use from the batteries when the voltage gets to 12.25 vdc (50% discharge). This greatly prolongs battery life.
Ref. wiring diagram S0490.
Fred Kovol

Re: microwave power sources

Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6542
Fred,

Where does the washer get its source from.
My washer has power going to it works but I have no heat when it's drying.
Any thoiughts on this I have not call the washer people yet.
Also what is the best way to get the washer out.
Gary

Intrtigue 2002 11451

Washer/Dryer Power Source

Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6543
Hi Gary,

According to wiring diagram S0490, the subject item is powered from a separate CB in the 120 vac power panel - shore or generator is the source. As for removal, I don't know.
Fred Kovol

Re: microwave power sources

Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6545
Microwave and outlets always worked for us on battery power? WHEN everything was working A-OK....lol
BTW: Fred....I priced Trojans here in Cincy today....only one dealer of them so it was easy...*S* 105's were $70......125's are $80....and 145's are $110 !!! YIKES!

The guy said the 105's are basically bullet proof. Will withstand MANY ( he says) deep cycles and come right back kicking.
Also ordered a Link 1000. Bitterroot says "NADA"...aitn got and cant get! Not for the last 3 months...but he advised me to call Camping world and they had them for $15 more...so he did help me a lot.
Thanks to YOU for the good info !!!

Sully.....kb8oxo@...

Re: microwave power sources

Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6546
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Gary:

The washer/dryer I hope is a Splended (sp) The proceedure in my Intrigue is as follows. The wood curb in front must be un screwd.
There are several long screws holding it in place. Then the front edge of the plastic tray most be unscrewed from the main part of the tray.
The hard part is chewing out all the silicone glue The machine then will slide out. The hoses are fairly long but probably you will want to remove them. The drain hose may contain water. Drain the filter door first. It is a beatiful machine and well made. The circuit boards are quite complex. I suggest you call Splendede before any action.
They are nice to deal with. Good luck. Dont forget to reseal the plastic tray when putting back.

If you want more info on the job E-Mail to me.

Jim Green Intrigue 11021

- In Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com, gdbettig@a... wrote:

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Fred,

Where does the washer get its source from.
My washer has power going to it works but I have no heat when it's

drying.

Re: microwave power sources

Reply #10 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6547
Gary,

I can answer that for you, if the W/D location on your coach is the same as mine. You have to be hooked up to shore power to run the W/D. The power does not come through the inverter like the rest of your outlets. I have mine out in the middle of the aisle now, waiting for a control board ($240 with the surge suppressor and shipping). To get it out, just pull the bottom board off in front of the machine (there are three long wood screws securing it), and then take the plastic drip reservoir front off and slide it out to where you can reach the hoses, the plug, and the drain hose. If yours is vented, you may have to access the clamp for the vent hose through the square hole in the closet above the W/D. The rest you can get as you pull it out. Be sure to put something on the tile about the same height as the W/D. It is about a four or five inch drop to the floor. You have room in the aisle to turn the machine to access the back panel that has to be removed in order to get to anything internal.

Note: The plastic piece you remove is part of an overflow catch basin and it is sealed with silicone where it mates to the big piece and where the screws secure it. Water managed to find a way to a couple of my screws and rusted them, so I am replacing them with stainless.
Now all this is assuming your coach and the W/D are similar to mine. I have the Splendide WD802, outside vent. I hope this helps! (The Splendide people are very helpful......but, I thought the price for a control board was high! Mine would not spin anymore).
Joe

'97 Intrigue Horizon 10331

Re: microwave power sources

Reply #11 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6557
Just fixed my Splendide. Pulled the WD out of the bay. Opened the top lid. Replaced a fuse with one given to me by the Splendide folks at a CC Rally. Special fuse as I recall.

They knew what it was by description of no heat symptom. Now have heat on the dry cycle.
Dean

95 Magna 5280

Re: microwave power sources

Reply #12 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6561
Dean,

Thank you very much for the info.

I am in now in the process of taking the w/d out.
Gar2002 Intrigue 11451

Re: microwave power sources

Reply #13 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6569
Fred,

When running the microwave on the inverter, does it run at full power? When I turn mine on, the light barely comes on and the microwave sounds like it is really under a load. Water will finally get hot, but at it takes a lot longer. Actually, I have not even used it because of the way it sounds. I have just turned it on to check it a few times.

Ree

Full-Timin' 2003 Allure 30852

Re: microwave power sources

Reply #14 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6570
Joe,

Thank you mine is just like you said. Working on taking it out.
Thanks for your help.
Gary

Re: microwave power sources

Reply #15 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6571
Hi Ree.

Sounds like low ac voltage at the microwave. On our coach the microwave is plugged into a duplex outlet in the narrow cupboard just above it. A $6.95 digital readout multimeter from Walmart can do the diagnostics. If the voltage is less than 110 vac with the microwave in use - there are several possibilities. Do the following in each case with the microwave operating. Put a 24 oz container of water in the microwave for loading. I am assuming the microwave is OK.

With the coach connected to shore power, the voltage at the duplex outlet should be within 3.0 vac of the voltage at the shore power circuit breaker box. Reinserting the plug from the microwave should be done and even an inspection of the connection inside the duplex outlet should be done if all else fails. The cover can be removed from the circuit breaker panel in the coach and the voltage can be monitored at the circuit breaker dedicated to the inverter.
If the voltage is not within 3.0 vac, the wiring is suspect from the inverter to the duplex outlet or the CB dedicated to the microwave on the inverter is suspect.

Some folks continue to report intermittant operation of a circuit board or connector in certain inverters. Tapping on the side of the inverter might give an indication. Of course the inverter could be the problem.

Finally, the battery voltage may be low (less than 12 vdc) or the interconnects (wiring) from the batteries to the 300 amp fuse (fuse could be a different value)and from the fuse to the inverter could be loose. Ref: wiring diagram S0490
Good Luck,
Fred Kovol

Re: microwave power sources

Reply #16 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6572
Sully,

Also try WEST Marine. Take a close look at the installation requirements between the Xantrex Freedom Remote control panel and the Link 1000 control. They are totally different if you are installing them in place of a ON/OFF switch above door. The Link system requires allot more wiring from front to rear of coach. Where the Freedom Remote can be mounted just above the existing ON/OFF switch using the existing wiring. All basic functions are the same. Just a few more bells and whistles with the Link. Check out the technical data on the Xantrex site:

http://www.xantrex.com/support/doclprod_type.asp?type=10
BTW, got your email....just hook the T105's in series pairs for 12vdc and then the pairs in parallel. Make sure you use the same gauge or larger wire when hooking the series pairs together. BTW T-105's here are $55 each at Battery Depot. I used T-145's. They were only $10- 15 more each.
Jim

2000 Allure #30511

Quote from: rvman4u
Microwave and outlets always worked for us on battery power? WHEN > everything was working A-OK....lol >

BTW: Fred....I priced Trojans here in Cincy today....only one

dealer

Quote
of them so it was easy...*S* 105's were $70......125's are > $80....and 145's are $110 !!! YIKES! >

The guy said the 105's are basically bullet proof. Will withstand > MANY ( he says) deep cycles and come right back kicking.

Also ordered a Link 1000. Bitterroot says "NADA"...aitn got and

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