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Time to get new tires...

Yahoo Message Number: 90455
Hello all. The tires on our 03 Intrigue are at 5 1/2 years on date code. Going with michelin xza2 energy 295 80 22.5 thru FMCA michelin tire program. Need some guidance. Will definitely make sure we get fresh tires with no more than 12 week old date code, and will balance each tire before install, and making sure new stems are accessible to monitor air pressure going forward. Anything else we should do during this install. We currently have "tire minder" monitoring system installed. It works ok I think, except on one tire. Looking to replace this system --- any suggestions or guidance is appreciated.

Tracy

03 intrigue

Re: Time to get new tires...

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Yahoo Message Number: 90459
The coach came with 12R's as I remember. My 2004 did. In late 08 I bought Michelin XZ2. The ride

was quiet and smooth with small imperfections in the pavement un noticeable. The only problem was

the side walls failed after 39 months. Fortunately Les Schwab bought back the tires giving me 21

months towards the purchase of either XZE which is a good tire with a little thicker side wall and deeper tread or Continental HSL1 315R80 with a longer warranty a full side wall protection. As I had 275 R80

Continentals on My 98 Allure with great results I went ahead and had the 315's installed. As they have a

similar tread as the XZA2 they are a little noisier .and are subject to more road feel than the XZ2.

According to Continental I can reduce the tire inflation a bunch to handle the load, but chose only to

reduce pressures by 10 lbs all around to maintain even tread ware and to reduce scuffing and scraping

of the tag tires. Thomas W. Insall jr. 2004 43' Intrigue Ovation PS.
They work great on wet pavement.

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From: tnsoutherngirl t2adventures@... Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 23:44:02 -0000 To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Time to get new tires...

Hello all. The tires on our 03 Intrigue are at 5 1/2 years on date code.
Going with michelin xza2

energy 295 80 22.5 thru FMCA michelin tire program. Need some guidance.
Will definitely make sure

we get fresh tires with no more than 12 week old date code, and will balance each tire before install,

and making sure new stems are accessible to monitor air pressure going forward. Anything else we

should do during this install. We currently have "tire minder" monitoring system installed. It works ok

I think, except on one tire. Looking to replace this system --- any suggestions or guidance is
appreciated.

Tracy

03 intrigue

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Re: Time to get new tires...

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Yahoo Message Number: 90461
Tracy

Replace the inner dual valve stems with longer stems.

Dan 2006 Allure 31348 C-9

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Yahoo Message Number: 90462
Thomas, when you say sidewall failure, did you have blowouts or did the sidewalls just crack badly? When we bought our Allure in April, the dealer put new XZA2's on the coach. I really would have rather had something else (I had great experience with Hankook's on my previous DP) but dealer said they used Michelin exclusively. I will keep a sharp eye on the XZA's.

Gary

'07 Allure 470 #31578

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Yahoo Message Number: 90463
Gary

I have over four years on my XZA2 Energy Michelins and they are in excellent shape. I keep them clean and cover them when I am in one place for several weeks or so.
I know of two coaches where they had the sidewall checking and in both cases they would drive south for the winter and park for 5 or 6 months without moving. I have been told that the most important thing you can do for longevity is to keep the tires clean drive the coach down the road. The rolling brings the protective oils to the surface of the tire.

Dan 2006 Allure 31348 C-9

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Yahoo Message Number: 90469
Dan, we won't be staying in any one place for long periods. I keep 303 protectant on mine and have covers that I can use if I am in a place with a lot of sun for any extended period.

Gary

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Yahoo Message Number: 90471
I replaced my tire on 2005 allure with michelin. I have tire smart and I replaced all the sensors when I had the tires off. I replaced the sensors myself while tire shop had the tires off the rims.

Dave

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Yahoo Message Number: 90472
X's 2 on the 303 and covers. We went with the XZE* for the thicker sidewalls. IMO, the best way to protect the life of any tire is to:

1) Drive on them up to normal highway temperatures, at least every 4-6 weeks. (Fits in well with exercising the coach and generator on a regular basis.)
2) 303 or other UV protectant. Zaino makes a good tire dressing too, with good UV. I also am still thinking I'll add the Sun Block paint on protectant that Don Seager first told me about. Just have not got around to it yet.

3) Covers for longer periods of idle time in the sun.

4) Proper PSI for your specific coaches weight application.

And then just normal inspections, unless you clipped a curb, or hit a heavy pot hole - then consider having the tire un-mounted and inspected by a BIG TIRE professional. (I know two people that thought their tires were OK, from and outside inspection after going over large debris in the roadway. Both did go in and have Parkhouse Tire in San Diego area un-mount their tie, and both showed interior damage not seen from the outside. Probably saved them from a blowout.)
Safety is not something that just happens, it is a state of mind and consistent due diligence by the owners.

Best to all,
Smitty

04 Allure 31017
04 Allure Sold to a nice new owner! Now enjoying a 07 Magna Rembrandt 45' ISX600 #6775
"We're ONDROAD for THEJRNY!" (Toad and Coach license plates, say Hi if you see us!)

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Yahoo Message Number: 90486
The cracking was so severe I could see ply s of the side wall. The cracking was in the form of a circle around the tires just below the michelin raised printing on the tire.
There were also one or two

blotches about 4" in diameter on each tire were the cracking was finer, not as deep and radiated from

the center. While I was at Les Schwab there was a Monaco and Newmar coach there with XZA2 with

cracking. But in both cases the cracking was near the bead. The tires in one case were less than a year

old! As the cracking on my tires was on the exterior only, I would say keep your tires covered at all

times except when in motion. What a pain. I normally cover mine during winter storage. TWI 2004
Intrigue 11731

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Yahoo Message Number: 90488
I have had a horrible experience with the Dealer I was sent to by FMCA as he was the only participating dealer in Austin, TX. They changed the tires outdoors in an uncovered, dirty concrete area. The fellow who was going to do the work had been with the shop less than a month and his helper had been there less than a week. Another person showed up later who I thought was a supervisor but found out later that he was just a Technician. He is the one that demonstrated to the other that the way to get the old weights off the Alcoa, polished Aluminumwheels was to use a sledge hammer. I guess they never knew there was a special device with which to remove the weights. Six hours later they finished up so I stopped by the office to express my horror at how they had replaced my tires. A week later, I looked at my RV and three tires were flat. I called the shop and the Sr. Technician came out and discovered that the valve stems were loose thereby letting the air out of the LF and two outside drive wheels. He tightened them up and re-inflated the tires. Late Friday evening, I sent an Email to FMCA explaining my disaster and requesting their intervention with Michelin. I got a call this AM from Michelin and was told they would do what they had to do to make it right. BTW, the tire dealer I used is with a store that is owned by MIchelin. The moral to this story: check out the dealer before you commit to the purchase. Former "07 42' CC Allure 470 and now in a Foretravel driver.

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Yahoo Message Number: 90490
PressurePro has been around a long time and one of the few that will work with "SilverLeaf" if you have it.

John

08 Intrigue
10 Ford Escape

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Yahoo Message Number: 90492
One thing to look at after the install is weight to air.
I just had my coach weighted at the FMCA Rally in Albany, Or (4 corner wt) and I'm over wt in the rear by 1150lbs and under in the front by 730lbs. In January I got a new set of Michelin 295/80R22.5 XZA2 with a max PSI of 120lbs. With a combined wt of 33,620lbs FR 6,405-FL6,065lbs RR 10,195-LR 10,955lbs I have to run 105 PSI in the front and 100 PSI in the rear. This is the only way to get a true wt reading and know what PSI to run, money well spent.
I thought it was over loaded because the wife of the way she packed it, but it must the the new brass and steel radiator heavy on the LR. I use 303 and keep the tires covered.
Floyd 2006 Inspire 51744

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Yahoo Message Number: 90506
Hello r0938

I'm just getting ready to have new tires put on by TCI #620 in Austin on I-35 and would very much like to know which tire dealer you had the problem with so I might not have the same experience.

Thanks

George wb5ldn
08 Affinity 6877