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Tranny temperature on ScanGauge D

Yahoo Message Number: 94330
Needing to hear from ScanGauge users on similar engine and tranny models if transmission temps will appear on ScanGauge D if coach has a J1708 six pin connector? I've attached pix of the connector located at steering column. I believe it is a J1708 six-pin? (Correction welcome) Tranny temp on analog gauge is reading 210F after 40 minute run. And has been that way since we bought coach in 2012. Want to get digital temp before doing anything more for cooling.
I understand differences between Silverleaf vs ScanGauge. Just needing quick & inexpensive diagnosis.
Thanks in advance.
Mike

'06 Inspire 360 #51534
Cat C-9

Allison 3000MH

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'06, 36' CC Inspire 360 #51534
Cat C9

'11 Wrangler Unlimited

Re: Tranny temperature on ScanGauge D

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94397
Allison tranny temps
The lack of response to my original post leads me to think my original post was not very clear. I really had several questions and I kind of jumbled them together. Here's a second attempt with cleaner, more specific list of questions:
1. Is 210F tranny temp reading on the FACTORY gauge unusual for folks with same coach and powertrain as I have?
2. For folks that have a ScanGauge D on the same coach and powertrain I have, does it pick up and display transmission temperature given the J1708 plug that it will be connected to under the dashboard?
3. Again, for those of you that have a ScanGauge D: does the tranny temp on ScanGaugeD show a different tranny temp than your factory analog gauge?

Thanks,
Mike
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'06, 36' CC Inspire 360 #51534
Cat C9 & Allison 300MH
'11 Wrangler Unlimited

Re: Tranny temperature on ScanGauge D

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94398
Mike,

While I can not speak to your coach I can tell you how my 2004 Allure worked. It had two temperature sensors. One was analog feeding the dash gauge and the other was digital feeding the Engine computer (ECCM). The digital reading was in turn passed on to the Silverleaf . However the sensors were located in two different places on the tranny so they did display a different reading basically because one area ran typically hotter than the other.
One thing to remember about these sensors is that digital data can be converted to a display value that appears more precise (number of digits) but that does not make it more accurate (compared to a know standard). Both devices have a published deviations from the known standard but usually the difference is ok to measure relative changes and dangerously high values. However it is a mistake to compare one to the other as in a coach installation. So all things considered if you have both values available there probably will be a difference of as much as 10 or more degrees difference between the two.
I did not have the same power train that your coach does but the 210 F you mention was in the normal range for my coach. Remember that the tranny is full of oil not an water/antifreeze mixture and can stand considerably higher temperatures than the engine temperature itself.
To digress a moment here is a story on comparing what appeared to be identical coaches. A year after we bought our new 2004 40 ft triple slide Allure Newport we returned to Lazydays for a small punch list and service work. In the bay next to my coach was what appeared to be an identical even the paint scheme. A day or two later I met the owners and we had a chance to compare in detail the interiors of each coach. They appeared to be identical inside in every way right down to the upholstery fabric until we finally found a difference. My coach had a pantry closet on the wall behind the dining area and theirs did not. I came away convinced that CC never made two coaches that were identical.

Don Seager
Ex CC owner

Allison tranny temps
The lack of response to my original post leads me to think my original post was not very clear. I really had several questions and I kind of jumbled them together. Here's a second attempt with cleaner, more specific list of questions:
1. Is 210F tranny temp reading on the FACTORY gauge unusual for folks with same coach and powertrain as I have?
2. For folks that have a ScanGauge D on the same coach and powertrain I have, does it pick up and display transmission temperature given the J1708 plug that it will be connected to under the dashboard?
3. Again, for those of you that have a ScanGauge D: does the tranny temp on ScanGaugeD show a different tranny temp than your factory analog gauge?

Thanks,
Mike
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'06, 36' CC Inspire 360 #51534 Cat C9 & Allison 300MH

'11 Wrangler Unlimited

Re: No two coaches alike.

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94399
When we ordered our 98 coach from the factory in addition to normal options that were added, walnut cabinetry, etc etc, there we 10 or 12 other changes, one of which was to leave all the 4" wide vertical mirrors off the coach. When we bought our 2004 Intrigue coach, there were close to 30 changes, from adding adjustable shelves to the pantry, to removing the lower storage cabinet over the toilet. We had AC outlets added to each storage bay, too. We even changed the external paint colors. Then the coach was taken to Davis cabinets where over 50 more changes were made. Then I threw out the Bose 321 and started over. That being said there are a lot of things in common with the coaches in that period of time. A few years later with the evolution in AV systems, monitoring systems, etc; each coach was certainly different from the next. TWI 2004 Intrigue Ovation 11731.

Re: Tranny temperature on ScanGauge D

Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94407
I can't speak to your Scan D readings but I have 2007 Inspire 360 with an Allison 6 speed tranny and a cummins 400 up. My factory gauge tranny temp readings get up to 210. Can't say what is normal. I imagine it depends on load, and terrain.

All the best,

Adam G.

Re: Tranny temperature on ScanGauge D

Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94441
Just to close the loop on this subject: I installed a ScanGauge D today and took the coach for a drive. The tranny temp on the factory installed analog dash gauge was reading 10-15 degrees warmer than the after-market scan gauge d. The results leave me with less concern for the tranny temp. Thanks to all for your input.
Mike

'06 Inspire

Cat C-9 with Allison 3000MH
'11 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited

Re: Tranny temperature on ScanGauge D

Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94455
Mike, Thanks for the information, I think I might get a ScanGauge for my coach. I have a few questions. Where did you find the connector Plug and where did you mount the readout assembly? Did you run into any issues during installation? Thank you,
RJ

2005 Inspire #51264

Re: Tranny temperature on ScanGauge D

Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94459
The connector plug on your coach should be right up under dash over near the driver side window... you can drop it down for easy access. I then mounted my scangauge D ontop of the dash with double sided tape Joseph Burkle

2008 Country Coach Inspire 360 Founders Edition 43' quad slide tag axle 425 HP C9 pusher http://www. Wind-seeker.com/

Re: Tranny temperature on ScanGauge D

Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 94460
Ron- The plug I connected the scangauge d to is under the dash almost by driver's side wall. (Where your left knee would ne when you drive). Get on the floor on your back and crawl past the steering column and look up at the bundled wires. Somewhere down there. Connecting was straight forward and follow instructions with the scangauge. No issues really. As the commercial says: "Just do it!" I haven't yet mounted it (its just sitting on top of plastic edging on instrument "dome"). I might well just velcro it there. Mike