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Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna

Yahoo Message Number: 108609
Does anyone have a fix for dim lights on the monitor panel of a 2000 Magna?... It is extremely hard to discern any of the fill levels for the various water tanks on the coach. The lights are lighting up, but they are extremely dim. They can be read if it is the middle of the night and no lights are on in the coach. However, if there are lights on, I can not read the panel. Does anyone know of a fix?

Thanks
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2000 CC Magna 36ft

Re: Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna

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Yahoo Message Number: 108611
Are you talking about your SilverLeaf monitor? On mine there is a programming button to set the brightness for both daytime and nighttime use.

Greg

06 Magna 6642

From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 12:43 AM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna

Does anyone have a fix for dim lights on the monitor panel of a 2000 Magna?... It is extremely hard to discern any of the fill levels for the various water tanks on the coach. The lights are lighting up, but they are extremely dim. They can be read if it is the middle of the night and no lights are on in the coach. However, if there are lights on, I can not read the panel. Does anyone know of a fix?

Thanks

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2000 CC Magna 36ft
2006 Magna Rembrandt C13
2016 Jeep GC toad

Re: Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna

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Yahoo Message Number: 108612
You can replace the bulbs. Do a search from the group yahoo page for this group. There was quite a few posts on this subject and instrument panel brightness.
Hope this helps.

Alex Ritchey 2000 CC Affinity B&B 42' tag

Re: Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna

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Yahoo Message Number: 108613
nope, not the silverleaf. On the 2000 Magna there is a monitor panel over the passenger seat which displays the "fullness" status of the black water, grey water, fresh water, and LP tank. Depending on which toggle switch is pressed, the display indicates empty, 1/4 full, 1/2 full, 3/4 full, full. A small lightbulb is beneath each. The bulbs all glow (dimly) as the appropriate toggle switch is activated, but the light is too dim to be seen if it isn't dark inside the coach.

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Yahoo Message Number: 108614
Thanks, but I did a search. I can not find anything referring to the dim lights. I seem mostly to find stuff on "instrument" panel lights, but the issues seemed to be more with the rheostat control than the bulb assembly.

More help?....

Thanks
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36 ft 2000 Magna

Re: Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna

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Yahoo Message Number: 108615
did search again... and found it under "dash" lights...

Thanks for the tip
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Yahoo Message Number: 108618
I've found Art at Silverleaf to be wonderfully helpful. 541-967-8111

Regards,
Mike St John

2005 CC Magna Matisse C13, #6501

Re: Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna

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Yahoo Message Number: 108619
Hey Skip, I have the same problem on my 2000 Magna #5784. I was going to try and replace the light bulbs with led's. They are tiny so not sure there is a replacement. Next I am going to try and "clean" the routing that shows which function is being lit. Please let me know if you find a fix...

Steve

Re: Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna

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Yahoo Message Number: 108621
My tank lights are bright. If all of your lights are dim I would suspect a ground problem on those circuits. I haven't looked but I assume all of these lights share a common ground wire. Try checking the ground wire or run another ground wire to them.

pete

2000 40' Magna CAT C-10, #5892
Pete
 2000 40'  Magna #5892  CAT C-10

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Yahoo Message Number: 108622
There may also be a dropping resistor in the circuit for the bulbs that may be increasing in value. If so you need to replace it.

Mikee

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Yahoo Message Number: 108623
It's not a ground problem. It is a design problem. I had the same problem and asked CC about it years ago. The problem is the bulbs are too far back of the front lens and the bulbs were not bright enough. I replaced all of the bulbs with a higher output and it worked. I don't have the part number of the new bulbs because a good friend found the right bulbs for me and I didn't keep the numbers. Sorry.

2006 Allure 42' 31936 Stanwood, Wash.
Jim Nichols Sent

Re: Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna

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Yahoo Message Number: 108624
Skip - hopefully my message #101086 came up with your search. In it and a couple others around it I discussed my experience changing out the monitor panel lights to LED's. Nothing has changed since I originally wrote that response. It is interesting that someone is getting plenty of light with the original bulbs. The ground shouldn't have been my problem as the LED's work fine, but Mikee's resistor may be a factor. Before switching to LED's my lights were only visible at night in very low lighting. Let me know if you have further questions.

Dan

2000 Magna #5788
Dan Siedschlag
2000 Magna #5788

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Yahoo Message Number: 108627
Check your grounds!! If you have dim lights then you have a bad ground some where .I would start by checking for corrosion on the battery cables!!

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Yahoo Message Number: 108629
HI Dan, do you happen to remember where you found the LED's that will replace the tiny bulbs? Do they have a number??

Thanks in advance,

Steve 2000 Magna #5784

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Yahoo Message Number: 108632
Steve - I purchased them online from Superbrightleds.com. Here's a link - 74 LED Bulb - 1 SMD LED - Miniature Wedge Retrofit | Subminiature | Specialty & Automotive | LED Light Bulbs - Universal Finder | Super Bright LEDs

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The good news is that they have gotten less expensive since I bought mine. Let me know if you need additional info.

Dan

2000 Magna #5788
Dan Siedschlag
2000 Magna #5788

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Yahoo Message Number: 108633
Thanks so much Dan, will get on it as soon as I can. Great to know that there are folks like you that will help. Where are you located? We are in Yuma AZ.

Steve 2K Magna #5784

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Yahoo Message Number: 108636
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Super Bright Led's:
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Re: Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna

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Yahoo Message Number: 108641
Steve, I'm in Fort Worth, TX. 
Dan

2000 Magna #5788
Dan Siedschlag
2000 Magna #5788

Re: Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna

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Yahoo Message Number: 108646
If you are talking about the dash board lights, I had mine changed to LED's and it made a huge difference. Contact me if you want to know how many of each color etc.

Wally & Elta Mae

2007Allure 470 #31535

Re: Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna

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Yahoo Message Number: 108650
I changed my tank monitoring light to LEDs and it made it worst. The amount of current it takes to turn on the LED is very small. In my case all the LEDs would always light up when checking any of the wet tanks regardless of the actual level. Any amount of leakage current between the sensors turned on the LEDs. I did multiple tank cleanings and it did not help. It worked great for the LP reading. Maybe putting a resistor in series with the LED might work.I put the incandescent bulb back in and got accurate reading again.

Frank

2000 MAGNA 5766

Re: Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna

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Yahoo Message Number: 108656
Yes, your message was the one that helped.... I've ordered the LED versions and will give them a try.

Thanks to you and everyone who've been responding. It is great to get ideas from people who've already solved problems.

Thanks
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Yahoo Message Number: 108834
I just did the changeover to LED lights ... I used the ones referenced in an earlier message. I too had the "always on" experience, but I switched the polarity on the LED's (by rotating the bulbs 180 degrees) and voila. Now I have nice bright readings for each level in the tanks.

Now I'm adding bulbs to the voltage readout on the monitor panel. It was easy to find the correct polarity for the two values of 12.5 and 12.0 volts. However, I'm still fiddling with getting the polarities right for the other readings.... It is difficult because my batteries are quite content to readout those two values. Getting the panel to activate the other values is not so easy. I guess I'll need to closely inspect the bulbs and see if I can figure out which way they sit in the sockets when they are in the proper polarity.

Thanks to every one who helped.... I'm considering adding these same (or colored ones which are available too) LED's in other bulb spots. They sure make reading the panel values much easier.

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Yahoo Message Number: 108871
You stated in your post that you had experienced the "always on" lights in the dash & toggle switches. How did you correct it? We just experienced it within the last 3 weeks. I have been shutting off the chassis battery switch to preserve our new chassis batteries.
Any help from any of the website members is welcomed.

Thanks,
Brad Ward

2000 Magna 36'
#5916

Chelan, Wa now in Surprise, AZ

Re: Dim Monitor Lights on front panel of 2000 Magna

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Yahoo Message Number: 108873
Hi, we had the same issu 3week ago, called butch williams at fountain rv in fla, he told me there are 3 power transitors in front run bay under driver comp,i cut wire 181 red from the power transitoron 2 of them, fof now that stop the power to panel lts for now till i get a chance to check out the diodes on the head lt sw. Charles 5886 2000 magna, call me if you need more info828-2736099