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c-9 cat engine

Yahoo Message Number: 109004
recently I installed the wax valve for radiator fan and my engine temp will not go above 160 the fan seems to be running medium too high speed all the time, any ideas why? thanks in advance for all replies.
2006 CC inspire 51765

Re: c-9 cat engine

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 109005
Call Source Engineering tech support, something is not setup correctly. Do you have the restrictor plate in hydraulic line? My C 13 with wax valve runs at 185-190F basically all the time, uphill or down, hot or cold day, doesn't matter at all.

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Greg

06 Magna 6642

From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 6:50 AM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] c-9 cat engine

recently I installed the wax valve for radiator fan and my engine temp will not go above 160 the fan seems to be running medium too high speed all the time, any ideas why? thanks in advance for all replies.
2006 CC inspire 51765
2006 Magna Rembrandt C13
2016 Jeep GC toad

Re: c-9 cat engine

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 109006
thank you, I ordered the valve from Kevin Waite and when I received it the lines were connected to valve. I made sure the P and T connections were correct. I will check with source tech support

Re: c-9 cat engine

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Yahoo Message Number: 109007
JR, We installed ours with the restrictor at first and also ran to cool. After removing the orifice we run 180-181 in the flatlands and 190 in the hills.......Skip 2002 Intrigue #11329

Re: c-9 cat engine

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Yahoo Message Number: 109009
I have the wax valve installed on a Cat c-9 and runs 188 to 190 maybe 192 when climbing hillsDave #312842005 allure 4702005 jeep From:

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JR, We installed ours with the restrictor at first and also ran to cool. After removing the orifice we run 180-181 in the flatlands and 190 in the hills.......Skip 2002 Intrigue #11329

Re: c-9 cat engine

Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 109011
Sounds like the thermostat is open. I had the same problem, after replacing mine everything seems fine. It is located on the top  rear of the engine. There are two a large one and a small one the small one on mine was stuck open. O lie the wax valve it now keeps me at 180.

Brian O'Day
2006 Inspire 360
Portland Oregon

From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 3:39 AM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] c-9 cat engine

Thank you I will give that a try

Re: c-9 cat engine

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Yahoo Message Number: 109028
Our C-9 cat engine runs hot also, especially in stop and go traffic. Would like to know more about the wax valve and if one would help. If so, is there a brand or item number to look for? Thanks!

SRobinson 06 Inspire 51767

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From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com  on behalf of jrjohnson103050@... [Country-Coach-Owners] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:49 AM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] c-9 cat engine

recently I installed the wax valve for radiator fan and my engine temp will not go above 160 the fan seems to be running medium too high speed all the time, any ideas why? thanks in advance for all replies.
2006 CC inspire 51765

Re: c-9 cat engine

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Yahoo Message Number: 109031
Our 2006 Inspire 360 also runs hot in slow traffic, as does the transmission. Have learned to use low gears to keep rpm up which helps a lot. The transmission will go over 230 in some of these cases, though the Allison guys tell me this is normal for short periods, and encouraged me to "run off the back of the transmission" i.e. shift down to keep rpms up which also helps the transmission heat.

Question: What effect on transmission heat has the wax value shown on the C9?

Thanks,

Michael
51748

From: "Sylvia Robinson sylrob1@... [Country-Coach-Owners]" To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 2:47 AM Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] c-9 cat engine

Our C-9 cat engine runs hot also, especially in stop and go traffic. Would like to know more about the wax valve and if one would help. If so, is there a brand or item number to look for? Thanks!

SRobinson 06 Inspire 51767

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From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com  on behalf of jrjohnson103050@... [Country-Coach-Owners] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:49 AM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] c-9 cat engine

recently I installed the wax valve for radiator fan and my engine temp will not go above 160 the fan seems to be running medium too high speed all the time, any ideas why? thanks in advance for all replies.
2006 CC inspire 51765

Re: c-9 cat engine

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Yahoo Message Number: 109045
We do that also, use lower gears, but it still makes me nervous!

Don't know if the wax valve helps the trans or not?! Other input?

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From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com  on behalf of michael joyce chirojoy@... [Country-Coach-Owners] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:26 AM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] c-9 cat engine

Our 2006 Inspire 360 also runs hot in slow traffic, as does the transmission. Have learned to use low gears to keep rpm up which helps a lot. The transmission will go over 230 in some of these cases, though the Allison guys tell me this is normal for short periods, and encouraged me to "run off the back of the transmission" i.e. shift down to keep rpms up which also helps the transmission heat.

Question: What effect on transmission heat has the wax value shown on the C9?

Thanks,

Michael
51748

From: "Sylvia Robinson sylrob1@... [Country-Coach-Owners]" To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 2:47 AM Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] c-9 cat engine

Our C-9 cat engine runs hot also, especially in stop and go traffic. Would like to know more about the wax valve and if one would help. If so, is there a brand or item number to look for? Thanks!

SRobinson 06 Inspire 51767

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From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com  on behalf of jrjohnson103050@... [Country-Coach-Owners] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:49 AM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] c-9 cat engine

recently I installed the wax valve for radiator fan and my engine temp will not go above 160 the fan seems to be running medium too high speed all the time, any ideas why? thanks in advance for all replies.
2006 CC inspire 51765

Re: c-9 cat engine

Reply #10 –
Yahoo Message Number: 109051
The wax valve helps keep both the transmission and the engine cool. After installing it I think I figured out why. The wax valve regulates the fan according to the engine speed. In traffic the fan runs faster because the engine runs faster. The old electronic controller only increased the fan speed when the engine got over 190 degrees (when it works properly) . You can hear the difference driving a coach with the wax valve, in first gear the fan runs very fast in a direct relationship with the RPM of the engine. Once the wax valve gets hot it even increases the fan speed more by opening the valve.
I guess the reason that the coach manufacturer used the electronic one is to keep down engine noises down.
Hope this makes sense
Brian O'Day
2006 Inspire 360
Portland Oregon 
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From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:44 AM To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] c-9 cat engine

We do that also, use lower gears, but it still makes me nervous!

Don't know if the wax valve helps the trans or not?! Other input?

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From:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.comCountry-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of michael joyce chirojoy@... [Country-Coach-Owners] Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:26 AM To:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] c-9 cat engine

Our 2006 Inspire 360 also runs hot in slow traffic, as does the transmission. Have learned to use low gears to keep rpm up which helps a lot. The transmission will go over 230 in some of these cases, though the Allison guys tell me this is normal for short periods, and encouraged me to "run off the back of the transmission" i.e. shift down to keep rpms up which also helps the transmission heat.

Question: What effect on transmission heat has the wax value shown on the C9?

Thanks,

Michael

51748

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From: "Sylvia Robinson sylrob1@... [Country-Coach-Owners]" Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com> To:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 2:47 AM Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] c-9 cat engine

Our C-9 cat engine runs hot also, especially in stop and go traffic. Would like to know more about the wax valve and if one would help. If so, is there a brand or item number to look for? Thanks!

SRobinson 06 Inspire 51767

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From:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.comCountry-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of jrjohnson103050@... [Country-Coach-Owners] Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:49 AM To:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] c-9 cat engine

recently I installed the wax valve for radiator fan and my engine temp will not go above 160 the fan seems to be running medium too high speed all the time, any ideas why? thanks in advance for all replies.

2006 CC inspire 51765

Re: c-9 cat engine

Reply #11 –
Yahoo Message Number: 109058
The temp issue with transmissions is caused by the fact CC monitors the temp of the fluid as it exits the transmission to the radiator and not of the temp of the fluid in the pan where it supposed to be sampled. TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731

Re: c-9 cat engine

Reply #12 –
Yahoo Message Number: 109062
Installed Source engineering wax valve on our C-9. At first it ran fan too fast. Removed orifice, now engine runs 185, transmission temp perfect. In temperature 110 OAT climbing hills engine will go to 190, transmission stays ok. Source engineering has great tech support.

Ray Down

06 Inspire 51602

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Reply #13 –
Yahoo Message Number: 109067
On Monday I had the wax valve installed at Source Engineering my temps had been as high as 210deg, now it comes on at 192deg and turns off at 168deg plus it only takes about 20 seconds to get there from my Silverleaf. Trans temp runs around 170deg now. Also at the same time had the Comfort Air Ride Valves installed what a difference.
Floyd 2006 Inspire 51744

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