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Seeking Well-Maintained Country Coach (or Foretravel)

Yahoo Message Number: 115585
Hi -

After 4 years of thinking, reading, talking, window shopping, RV Shows, studying, RV Bootcamp, and getting my CDL, my wife & I are ready to buy our first RV.

Over that time, I have concluded that CC and FT are the two that were built with the care & engineering I value, and that a 40-45 ft tag-axle coach will best suit our needs.

Although I always felt multiple slides were important, I just learned about the CC Concept coaches, and found their floor plan appealing despite having no slides. Live & learn...

We plan to buy as soon as we meet the right coach, learn the ropes over the next year, and then sell our home and go full-time next summer.

If you or someone you know is selling or planning to sell a CC or FT that is 40ft or over, has a tag axle, and has been well-maintained, kindly let me know asap.

Thanks in advance,
Ken


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Reply #1
Yahoo Message Number: 115586
Ken

Motorhomes of Texas has some of everything you are considering including a CC concept.

Fred Compton
Former Magna owner


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Reply #2
Yahoo Message Number: 115587
Hi Ken my name is Brian Morrow and I just put my 2007 Country Coach Allure 470 up for sale it is in pristine condition heavily modified and ready to get on the road. If you have any interest the coaches listed in rvtrader.com for $159,950 as I said it's a 42-foot Allure Siskiyou Summit 2007 have any questions please don't hesitate to call me




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Yahoo Message Number: 115588
2008 Intrigue 42 ft four slides tag axle 525 cat aqua hot


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Reply #4
Yahoo Message Number: 115589
I own a CC 2002 Magna 40 Ft. 2 Slides & Tag 425 Cat LOVE IT But I would NOT Buy anything NEWER. Just my .02$

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Reply #5
Yahoo Message Number: 115591
Hi Brian -
Looked at your coach on RV Trader - looks beautiful!

What size are the sofas, and what size beds do they create, if any.

Are additional specs and photos available?

Wife really likes non-carpeted living area with AquaHot-type floor heating, so not sure if she'll go for carpeting.

Ken
KSchaffer24@...

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Reply #6
Yahoo Message Number: 115592
Hi Robert -

That for you 2 cents worth. I have heard similar statements from others (up to 2004-5). What makes you leery of coaches older than 2002?

I want to learn all I can.

Ken
KSchaffer24@...


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Reply #8
Yahoo Message Number: 115597
We saw Kenai Coach at a FMCA rally in Oregon. Kenai Coach is out of Junction City, OR. They have several Country Coaches for sale. We have never dealt with them but you might take a look at their website.

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Reply #9
Yahoo Message Number: 115601
I have a 06 42 ft Intrigue for sale in Chinook Wa
Denny parker
619 207 7294


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Reply #10
Yahoo Message Number: 115602
We just bought our 36' Intrigue from Terry and Kellie at Kenai. Highly recommend them - they are good people and it was a great experience.

KJ


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Reply #11
Yahoo Message Number: 115603
We have a friend selling his Allure, I think it is a 2003. Can't tell you much more about it but you can call him at 360-410-9845, ask for Ted.

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Reply #12
Yahoo Message Number: 115612
We looked for about 16 months, before buying out coach. I drove from San Diego to just South of Sacramento one weekend, to look at a coach. Turned out to have just too many things I was not comfortable about, and I did not get a good vibe from the owner (Only owner of the coach.), when I asked about maintenance items. (Did not have, or more likely would not share, his maintenance folder of receipts. Did not know key items maintenance history, and I finally concluded they had not been done.) A second time, a coach in Texas met all of the DW's and my Must Have Check Lists, and many of our Nice to Have items too. Owner talked good on the phone, sent more pictures for me to look over. Price seemed to be in the appropriate range to start the discussions from. So I took a days vacation on a Friday, with a tentative agreement with my boss that I might also be taking Monday and Tuesday off. Flew to Austin, rented the car, drove to meet the owner and see the coach. Wow! Goes to show you a picture is not worth a 1,000 words:)! I never went into the coach. Walked up to it, and around the passenger side, before the owner came out of his house to greet me. When he did, I told him he'd just cost me a plane ticket, a day's vacation. And that his coach was not what he had represented it to be. Turned around and walked back to the rental car, with him stammering the behind me saying 'Well, we can possibly work on the price...'. Back to the airport, bought a return ticket and was home in San Diego for dinner. My message with this long story, is expect to take your time. You two make a list of the items that are Must Have's and Nice to Have's - so you can both due impartial grading of coaches you walk thru.

I finally asked on two RV boards, for recommendations of Salesman people trusted. One of the three main people recommended, was in teh San Diego area. So I went in and met him, reviewed my short list of make/model/years and price range. He asked a few questions, suggested I add two other coaches to my list (Which I did.). And then I had his help while searching for a coach. About 6-7 weeks later, he called me to say a coach was coming in on consignment, told me the day and time it was coming in, and invited me to come look it over. I was their when it came in the gate. No detail, no prep for sale. Spent 90 mins crawling under, thru, over, around the coach. We took it for a test drive and stopped by our house, for the DW to look over. She took her list, and spent 30 mins by herself reviewing things, while the salesman (Steve Wilson, then of Holland Motors in San Diego (Now in San Marcos) and I sat and had a cup of coffee in our back yard. She gave the OK. Made an agreement with Steve that they would take the coach to Cummins Cal Pacific for an independent mechanical inspection, which I paid for, pulled fluid samples. And, since Holland Motors had sold the coach to the 1st owner, and done all of the service since new, asked him if the owner would allow them to print out copies of all maintenance for me to review. Steve did all of this, I reviewed the history, everything came back good from the chassis and dyno inspection (A few items needed attention, which the Holland authorized Cummins to do on their dime, as well as two recalls were covered at the same time.)

By pure luck on our part, this longer search period for the coach, was taking place as the recession was forcing many to need to get out from under their coaches. This was such a coach, the owner needed it gone. So prices had dropped quite a bit. And we actually saw appreciation over the next 3-4 years, as the recovery kicked in and demand went up again.

Why the long story? Well, IMO, a good salesman can be a valuable asset in the hunt for a coach. They know about units that are never advertised. Like this one coming in on consignment. I saw the coach on Wednesday, got the Cummins inspection and reviewed the maintenance. Placed an offer on Monday, and we tap danced a bit and signed the deal on Tuesday. (Price concessions for new tires, aged out. And house batteries, aged out.). Steve Wilson (Who did pass away from cancer about four years ago.), also mentioned that he'd had times where he'd help a widow sell a coach. Or that he, or others he networked with, would know of a coach coming in on trade in, as someone was changing coaches. These are just examples, of how he said in his opinion - many of the best cared for coaches never even get advertised.

So suggest in addition to posting here, and surfing the internet, that you make contact with a professional salesman, and solicit their help in your search. I've never met him, but Damon Rapozo has been mentioned to me a few times by those that have worked with him. So their is one lead to a salesman. (And an opinion on salesman, they do sometimes get deserved reputations - good, or bad. But a salesman who is in the business along time, understand the value of referrals and repeat business. Do they want to make a commission. Yes. But I sincerely believe that a professional salesman is also interested in making longer term relationships. Steve Wilson and I became good friends, and I miss him. Might work out for you...

(This completes another 'short & crisp' posts of ramblings by Smitty...)

Good luck on your hunt,
Smitty
04 Allure 31017
04 Allure Sold to a nice new owner! Now enjoying a 07 Magna Rembrandt 45' ISX600 #6775
"We're ONDROAD for THEJRNY!" (Toad and Coach license plates, say Hi if you see us!)

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Yahoo Message Number: 115613
Never ramblings, Smitty. My husband Mike and I pay attention to your posts and are grateful for any infomation you might send out to the folks who read this blog on CC for which we are very very grateful. We had the HWH put on their Active Air a few weeks ago based on some iso we had several years ago from a conversation at the Twin Cites in MN FMCA convention with the owner of HWH. Then recently we'd seen a few posts of folks here who had Active Air installed, and we decided to go for it since we are very happy with our 06 Inspire which we bought new in 06. The result is really wonderful. Mike says it drives very differently in that it eliminates any feel of wandering. The coach feels much fore stable. It levels better generally, and he says when you are coming into park, it really levels better. He says there are other things that are good about it too. By the way, the people at HWH are terrific too.

So, Smitty, thank you from Mike and me as always. Your advice here is right on.

Mike and Mary Frederick
06 Inspire 51784


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Reply #14
Yahoo Message Number: 115616
Two comments.

1. I bought my coach thru Damon Rapozo and Premier RV. Very satisfied with both and would recommend.

2. Mary, I had the HWH Active Air on a 99 HR Imperial. Made a world of difference in handling and taking out the leaning in curves. Not too sure I will get it installed on our current coach or not. But I do miss it.

2007 Allure 31570
'02 Chevrolet Silverado
M&G system

Tom
2007 Allure 430 Hood River Triple slide
#31570
'18 Silverado w/ M&G Braking system

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Reply #15
Yahoo Message Number: 115626
Ballpark cost on the HWH Active Air, please

Wally & Elta Mae
2007Allure 470 Sunset Bay #31535




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Reply #18
Yahoo Message Number: 115630
A bit off topic, but hopefully the OP does not mind us talking Active Air.
Glad to hear more positive votes on Active Air. I read IRV2 Entegra Owner Group frequently (If buying a new (or newer) coach, Entegra, Foretravel and Newmar would be on our short list. So follow those owner groups on various forums to kind of keep my toe in the water.)

When we bought our coach, we had budgeted for Active Air to be installed the first year of our retirement. But we retired just before the impact of ACA was known. And well, those funds went towards health care. (And we learned to shop for Bota Box wines, vs Silver Oak:)!)

Have recently read of several CC and Entegra owner's, adding Active Air. Really glad to here almost universal positive results. To me, improvements in handling provide an added safety margin. Sure, these big machines are never going to be canyon carvers, but, you never know when that extra edge on handling might help you get out of an emergency situation. Improved ride comfort, and ease of going down the road - is icing on the cake.

Salute to you that have added Active Air!!

OP - Happy hunting. Glad you've reached out to Damon, hope with or on your own - you find the coach that is 'right' for you. Last tip, that I left out of my last post (Because it was not long enough:)!). Save some funds for modifying the coach to make it yours. If the fundamentals and lay out are good for you. With $10, 15 20K - you can really modify a coach to make it 'yours'.

Best,
Smitty
04 Allure 31017
04 Allure Sold to a nice new owner! Now enjoying a 07 Magna Rembrandt 45' ISX600 #6775
"We're ONDROAD for THEJRNY!" (Toad and Coach license plates, say Hi if you see us!)

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Reply #19
Yahoo Message Number: 115631
Walter,

Ball park for HWH Active Air is $ 9-10 grand.

Tom
2007 Allure # 31570
'02 Silverado M&G Braking System

Tom
2007 Allure 430 Hood River Triple slide
#31570
'18 Silverado w/ M&G Braking system


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Reply #21
Yahoo Message Number: 115633
Walter:)! You send the money - and I'll make the time...

(Yeah, sorry, just sort of slipped out.)

Best,
Smitty
04 Allure 31017
04 Allure Sold to a nice new owner! Now enjoying a 07 Magna Rembrandt 45' ISX600 #6775
"We're ONDROAD for THEJRNY!" (Toad and Coach license plates, say Hi if you see us!)

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Reply #22
Yahoo Message Number: 115636
Key is in the ignition and their will be wine.

Wally Falch
408-666-8566



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Reply #24
Yahoo Message Number: 115650
well, I do have wine, after a few glasses....who knows