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BARN RAISING

Yahoo Message Number: 12186
We finally decided to bite the bullet and build a barn for the coach! Hope to sign contract in the next two weeks.
It will be pretty basic, 40' X 60' with two opposing 14 X 14 roll up doors. 50 A supply of course but no water or sewer. Additional roll up doors will allow access to the two side areas adjacent to the coach.
I know some of you have already been through this process. Any words of wisdom, thought or ideas would be welcome.

Thanks.

David & Karen

2000 Intrigue 11062
40 ft Single slide. PT
2002 Odyssey TOAD

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Yahoo Message Number: 12187
D & K, I have a carport type structure, not a barn because I live in a temperate climate zone, but one thing I did which I have thanked myself for over and over is that I installed a sewer line to the facility. At times I wish I had also provided water, but sewer gives me the convenience of dumping after I get home without finding somewhre to do it. It's not hard to run a water hose for rinsing, but the sewer line is a tremendous convenience.

Walt Rothermel
03Allure30811

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Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 12189
Hey, David.
In case you forgot, we have been building a house in the cold north. I have a pad (dirt clearing for now) near the hose with water, sewer and water installed.
We will... maybe next spring... put a barn-garage over the parking area. I will be very interested in your design. Keep us posted.
Dick May
2002 Intrigue, #11438

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Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 12190
Hey, where's the space for your friends???? The least you could do when starting from scratch is to accommodate a few of we forum members!

Good luck...think it's a good idea by the way...hail does a bad number on these coaches. We ran into a BAD hailstorm in Bend while you were away...fortunately AOK...but we thought it would break the Jeep's windshield.
Jan McNeill, Fulltimer
2001 Intrigue 11320
Currently in Temple, TX

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Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 12195
If you can while you build the barn run three 4inch plastic lines to the barn. You use one for the sewer, one to pull electric wires in the future, one to pull phone and cable tv and anything else you think of. I have all my buildings tied together this way. No having to think about how I am going to get something wired out to the unit. I keep a piece of rope in them all the time to pull in new wires. You can have cable in the mh. You will always wish you had something else out there in the future. This makes it easy.
Jean and Jerry Wessel

BARN RAISING

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Yahoo Message Number: 12197
Thanks for the replies, keep up the good work! As this subject may have wide interest to owners I will post collective replies. If you are not interested in BARNS please use your delete button.
WALT: Good comment. In my case there is a public dump station less then two miles from home. On the property there is a sewer (septic) connection I can make next to the existing residence. At this time I have decided to make that arrangement work using "sewer solution."
JAN: I didn't forget my friends! In fact, for a very brief time I sketched out a BARN sized to fit two coaches. However: the proportions look out of place and there is a considerable cost increase when adding longer trusses, etc., so that idea didn't go far.
We did decide to go to a sixty foot length with opposing 14 X 14 doors so that when you Get your 45 ft Prevost you can come over and try the fit.
Your comment made me realize I should run an extra 50 A service to the outside just for friends. Thanks.
DICK: I didn't forget! Just thankful that my nearest and dearest relatives live in CA. and OR. So we can build in a decent climate. With your plans be sure to include space for snow plow, snow tires and wire for a block heater. GGGGG.
JERRY: Good comments. I had planned to run plastic conduit for electrical but not given thought to cable or telephone. My initial thinking was that we would use our cell phones and a satellite TV connection. What you say makes sense and not that much extra $$$ so will plan on it. I'll even run it adjacent to the outside 50 A circuit. (That will make JAN happy.)
Although not in my plans, the idea of a sewer connection inside the barn doesn't sit right with me. Not sure I would ever want to do that?
Thanks everyone. Hope more comments will be forthcoming, the help is appreciated.

David & Karen

2000 Intrigue 11062
40 ft Single slide. PT
2002 Odyssey TOAD

BARN RAISING

Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 14788
We are making progress with our barn. Structure is built and doors in place. Next project is painting and electrical, hopefully by April if $$$ permit.

For people who already have barns or garages I have a question:
When starting up your coach in an enclosed space and waiting for the air pressure to rise before moving off do you take any precautions concerning diesel exhaust or suffer any soot issues in the vicinity of the tail pipe. I was wondering whether to vent to the outside using flexible tubing. Maybe with both doors open it will not be a problem.

Any comment? Thanks..

David & Karen

2000 Intrigue 11062
40 ft Single slide. PT
2002 Odyssey TOAD

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Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 14793
David

I saw a neat contraption that the New York City FD uses for their diesel fire trucks. It is a flexible pipe that travels along a rail until the truck exists the door of the firehouse. I am sure that would be expensive, but diesel fumes in the firehouse was a real problem!
Gene

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We are making progress with our barn. Structure > is built and doors in

place. Next project is painting and electrical, > hopefully by April if $$$
permit.

For people who already have barns or garages I > have a question:

When starting up your coach in an enclosed space > and waiting for the air

pressure to rise before moving off do you take any > precautions concerning

diesel exhaust or suffer any soot issues in the > vicinity of the tail pipe. I

was wondering whether to vent to the outside using > flexible tubing. Maybe

with both doors open it will not be a problem.

Any comment? Thanks..

David & Karen

2000 Intrigue 11062
40 ft Single slide. PT
2002 Odyssey TOAD

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Gene Clendenin

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Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 14798
David, When I built the new shop I put in a 48'' Exhaust fan to pull out fumes and cool the building in the summer time . ( shop is 50 x60 X 18 ft side walls.) However I usually use auxillery air to air the coach up prior to start up to reduce the time required to pull it out of the shop. Heating the building to a comfortable work temp isn't cheap!.

Ron

Innovative CoachWorks Inc.

F102508@... wrote:

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Yahoo Message Number: 14801
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We are making progress with our barn. Structure is built and

doors in

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place. Next project is painting and electrical, hopefully by

April if $$$

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permit.
> For people who already have barns or garages I have a question: >

When starting up your coach in an enclosed space and waiting

for the air

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pressure to rise before moving off do you take any precautions

concerning

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diesel exhaust or suffer any soot issues in the vicinity of the
tail pipe. I

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was wondering whether to vent to the outside using flexible
tubing. Maybe

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with both doors open it will not be a problem.

Any comment? Thanks..

David & Karen

2000 Intrigue 11062
40 ft Single slide. PT
2002 Odyssey TOAD

David,

I open the doors on each end of my garage before I start the engine.
So far, this has been quite adequate for the exhaust fumes. My exhaust pipe is at least 4 feet from the wall. I have not had any issues with soot either.

Dave G.

2000 Allure #30491
Millheim, PA

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Yahoo Message Number: 14802
David,

Our house at Lake Ashton has a coach garage incorporated into the house and it is vented by a screened opening in the block work in the front and a large, louvered fan in the rear with a thermostat to come on automaticly during high temperatures. Whenever we start up the coach we turn on this fan and it does a good job of venting the fumes however the fan louvers let water in during the 3 hurricanes last summer

Bill G. 05 Magna #6425.

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Yahoo Message Number: 14804
Hey Dave, it's a barn and suppose to stink. I'm sure you have gable vents or something, once the door is open the diesel disipates quickly. Nothing like the smell of diesel in the morning! Of course trucks make my living... In all seriousness, I just built mine and I framed in a 48 X 48 boxed poultry fan with outside louvers on the rear wall. The smoke is not a big deal, by the time you get the Coach out with the door open, it will be gone. I've never used the fan for smoke, only ventilation for heat. By the way, I had the door company put electric openers on the overhead doors, 12 X 14, and it only cost another 280.00 per door.
Tom

04 Allure 30979 (30 X 50 stinky garage)

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Reply #12 –
Yahoo Message Number: 14807
From: F102508@...>

(snip) > When starting up your coach in an enclosed space and waiting for the air

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pressure to rise before moving off do you take any precautions concerning > diesel exhaust or suffer any soot issues in the vicinity of the tail > pipe. I

was wondering whether to vent to the outside using flexible tubing.
Maybe

with both doors open it will not be a problem. Any comment? Thanks..
Good question and a valid concern. I recommend that you go to the nearest big city fire house and see the system they use. They typically have powered exhaust hoses for each truck and I *think* they don't need to be removed once the truck starts to move out ... they fall off automatically.
In any event, I think that flexible tubing would be appropriate for your application. We use a special flexible rubber hose to vent our Intrigue's genset exhaust 11' towards the rear of the coach when we're dry camping, so it doesn't bother our neighbors. We bought it at a NAPA dealer. The product is made to vent auto exhaust out the door in a repair garage environment.

Dick (& Geri) Campagna (in Key West) '98 36' Intrigue #10571
Mfd: 11/97