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Windshields, obstructed view, why???

Yahoo Message Number: 500
Group,

I have a 2001 Monaco Signature that I like a lot, but one thing i do not like is the size and location of the post at each edge of the windshield. I once owned a 1976 GMC that had a great open wrap around windshield. I see many gas units with similar windshields today. Even the Winnebago Brave has a very open view to the front and the sides.
My Signature has a 14 or 15 " wide block (post) on the passenger side and a bit smaller on the driver's side. A good size building could hide in these blind spots. What i would like to know is why are we stuck with such large post. We are fabricator's and based on personal experience i see no good reason they need shuch a large post at that location. There is plenty of room behind the drivers seat to make a massive support structure, However if one looks at ROPS roll over protection on heavy equiptment one would see even 100000 earth movers have ROPS that is less than half of what Monaco is using. I brought this up to the Monaco rep at Lazy Days, it seems to be common in all Diesel pushers, but for me if someone built a quality unit with a small post i would snap it up in a flash, how do the rest of you feel about this issue?

John D. 2001 Signature Lockport Illinois

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Yahoo Message Number: 501
Not sure why John. This has been one of the largest factors in our decision making process on which coach to eventually purchase. My S/O hates the large windshield pillars because they obstruct the view and also cannot stand most front entry rigs due to the noise assoicated witht he door. So - we looked at every mid door diesel we could find, of which there are only a few - Bounder, Trade Winds and I think there was a Dutch Star if I remember. The only front door unit she likes other than the Intrigue is the Winnebago Journey DL - no noise and the pillar is a little easier to live with.

R/
Kent
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Yahoo Message Number: 502
Kent,

Thanks, the post, this something i totally missed during the decision making process (made over the phone), and i really had to live with the coach for a while before the size started to bother me. I said 14 inches I measured and it is actually 17" glass to glass passenger side and 11 inches drivers side. Much larger than my 1999 Windsor.
Wind noise from the door does not esist on the Signature, it has a air seal that does a very good job of keeping the noise out. Thanks again for the info. I guess this is something I will look out for in the future.
John D.

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Yahoo Message Number: 504
John,

Certainly a high priority to the two of us - so topic well worth discussing, no doubt about it. However I suspect that Signature is pretty easy to live with otherwise?
Truth be told the floor plan I like best is a Gulf Stream due to the split bath with french doors into the bedroom - you can open it up a lot or keep the bedroom totally secluded with them - but the danged thing rattled and the door howled. Certainly could have been only a simple adjustment - but when the salesman stated; "You won't find a diesel pusher that does not rattle" and then the very next one we test drove did not, well - sort of lost interest in that brand.
Nits nits and more nits when it comes to that sort of cash outlay. I'm so tight I squeak when I blink... I firmly believe you get what you pay for.
:)
Kent
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Yahoo Message Number: 505
Thanks for the info!
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In Country-Coach-Owners@y..., "Glen R. Fotre, CCIM" wrote:

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Yahoo Message Number: 506
Mid entry doors dumb because you lose sooooooo much interior wall space.
Kills almost every furnishing concept. try a front door.. you'll never look back!

malcolm

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Yahoo Message Number: 507
Take out 3 ft. for a doorway from the front or the center..Its still 3 ft. My wife loved the side entry door as she could set up front and have a good vision, put her feet up on the dash if she wanted to. I liked it for the big window on the right side for driving visability. Also you don't have to trapse thru the living area to get to the bathroom. Just a handier situation all the way around. My .02 worth Jim in NM

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Yahoo Message Number: 510
Sorry to disagree about the side door, three feet out of a crowded floor plan is alot of space to lose. My Naviguesser (wife) enjoys the sliding floor and puts her feet up on the dash while we're driving.
Parked for more than a day we turn the chairs around and enlarge the living space. The door just takes up the space next to her which does cut down her view space some but does not cut into the living area. I wouldn't get a mid door entry anymore, just like I wouldn't get a MH without a slide. I love the space. Happy camping:)

John P

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Yahoo Message Number: 516
I must say I agree with John on this on. Get info on resale value on a side entry door vs. front entry door. This is similar to slide vs non-slide. Trade in or resale is going to be a kicker. Personal preferences are ones own so if you are happy go for it. I have investigated both door entries and the side door does in my opion consume to much space for us.

Just my 2 cents worth.
Randy