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Toyo Tires

Yahoo Message Number: 6046
I have a 2000 Allure 36ft. and I have had 3 tire failures in ;the last year, two in the last month. In one case I know the tread seperated. AI am not overweight ( had 4 point weighing by a weigh we go ( they have anew name) so wonder if anyone has had a similar experience. Also Toyo tires are very difficuot to find on the road so now I have 3 new Goodyear tires of the same size. Any info would be of lhelp as I am sure I have a bad set of tires. lI also have smarttire so I know my pressure was OK. Please help . Jim Waterfield

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Yahoo Message Number: 6049
Hi, Jim,

Be sure the recall bulletins have been followed on your coach. I had a 2000 Intrigue (#10941) which was recalled twice--once to replace the front tires and once to replace them again and re-configure the ride height valves from one-rear and two-front to one-front and two rear. This only applies if your 2000 is an early one before they went to the 12r/22.5 tires. If you already have the larger tires or have completed the recalls, then I'm at a loss. I'm on my second coach with Toyo tires and have had zero problems with them. A local tire dealer tells me he has fewer problems with Toyo than Michellin or Goodyear.

Walt Rothermel
03Allure30811

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Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6051
Jim,

Have 29,000 miles on current Toyo's and have had no problems!

Steve

Intrigue #10673

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Yahoo Message Number: 6052
From: "jimwmd2003" jimwmd2003@...>
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I have a 2000 Allure 36ft. and I have had 3 tire failures in ;the
last year, two in the last month. (snip) Are you the original owner? If not, the original owner may have run 'em underinflated. Or maybe you did before you had it weighed???

Dick (& Geri) Campagna
CC Intrigue/NJ

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Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6054
Jim, It would be of interest and helpful if you included your coach number.
Also, do you have the large or small tires on your coach and in which position did the failures occur.
We have TOYO R 22.5 tires and so far no problems but have only 19000 miles recorded.

David & Karen CA.
2000 Intrigue 11062
40 ft Single slide. PT
2002 Odyssey TOAD

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Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6059
Jim,

One thing you may want to check is the age of the tires, most people begin to have tire problems when the tires are 5 years old. Check the date code on your remaining tires, they could be older then your coach. At 5 years I intend to replace all my tires regardless of how they look.

Bill G. 2001 Magna #5998

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Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6064
Jim: I wish to communicate with you on this subject at length but will post tomorrow. We have the same concerns. I am in contact with Country Coach at this time over the subject.
Jim Green Intrigue 11021 36 foot Galley's Open

Quote from: jimwmd2003

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Yahoo Message Number: 6065
Hello Jim,

Number 1, after about 30,000 miles I got rid of the Toyo tires and had two Michelens put on the steer axles. Toyo tires were wearing in very weird ways, howver, the ride improved dramaticcaly.
Have you checked with CC about a recall on the Toyo tires. MY coach is a '99 Allure and the tires were on the recall notice.

Egon

Quote from: jimwmd2003
I have a 2000 Allure 36ft. and I have had 3 tire failures in ;the > last year, two in the last month. In one case I know the tread > seperated. AI am not overweight ( had 4 point weighing by a weigh

we

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Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6066
Judging from your coach number you have the smaller tires and maybe part of the recall effort by CC.

David & Karen CA.
2000 Intrigue 11062
40 ft Single slide. PT
2002 Odyssey TOAD

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Reply #10 –
Yahoo Message Number: 6069
There are several of us Jims out here.
As stated yestarday I would contact you about the tire problem.
Last year I had a left front blowout at 65 mph on a 6 lane interstate at 5 pm on a Sunday night. The tire had been exhibiting some strange wear problems but had been declared not unusual by Les Schwab experts just a few days before it blew. The front tires are now Yakahama only because that is all I could get at the time. Damage included loss of compartment door under driver seat,a side light, ripped off fuel hose, and some paint damage due to the flying steel cords.
Like you I had the FMCA recomended experts weigh the coach. The front was within 50 lbs of each other and well under the axel rating and tire rating. The previous owner had the ride height retrofit relocation done and We received the front axel weight load revised sticker for the coach. The unit did not qualify for bigger tires under that recall.

We have 275/70R22.5.

Weighing showed the rear had quite a different story. A 1500 lb difference heavy on the driver side but still within the rating of axel and tires. Total rear weight was however only 900 lbs under axel rating. Full water, full fuel, and slightly more than normal clothes and junk.

I am , as I said in contact with CC to determine what corrective action may be taken to improve the situation, and waiting.
I do not think the Toyo tire is the problem. Tires had decient tred and still do at 50,000. Tire blew at 40,085.
We all have a lot to learn about our coaches and It will be interesting what comes of this situation.
James M. Green

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Yahoo Message Number: 6070
DAVID: I thought I was to qualify but they said no. I am curious, did you qualify for larger tires? Shortly after our numbers the were all larger.
Jim Green

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Yahoo Message Number: 6071
Jim, My coach came with the larger R 22.5 tires. The change on the Intrigue was in the region of coach serial numbers 11034 - 11039.

To my knowledge there has been no problem with the R 22.5 tire

David & Karen CA.
2000 Intrigue 11062
40 ft Single slide. PT
2002 Odyssey TOAD

Toyo Tires

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Yahoo Message Number: 8153
I found a great source for the Toyo Tires while traveling in the SE this past summer. Action Tires in a surburb of Atlanta. Also got a front end alignment from them and they seemed to really want to do it right. They asked me for the front end alignment specs, I gave them the books provided with the coach and basically what it says is to call CC for specs. They called and CC faxed alignment specs to Action Tire. The toe-in was really out of alignment due to the recall on the front end parts being installed and then Kenworth in Tucson failed to insure that the front end was properly aligned. This caused the front tires to wear on outside on right front tire and on the inside of the drivers side front tire. I highly recommend Action Tire in Atlanta area.
Ray

2000 Intrigue 11040

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Yahoo Message Number: 8157
I couldn't find Action Tire on my mapping program. Could you respond with the address in Atlanta and maybe a website? I go through Atlanta frequently on the way to Florida and am approaching the time to replace my Toyos.
"I found a great source for the Toyo Tires while traveling in the SE this past summer. Action Tires in a surburb of Atlanta.
Ray

2000 Intrigue 11040"

Sincerely

George W Becker

gwb36@... 1999 Country Coach Intrigue #10700

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Yahoo Message Number: 8169
Action has several locations in the Atlanta but the one I used is:

ACTION TIRE

559 LEE INDUSTRIAL BLVD.

AUSTELL, GA 30168 Tel: (770) 732-1108

Truck/Bus Radials
Road Service
Night Service

Jason was the service manager with whom I spoke with. I called him on the phone and told him what I needed and he had the tire waiting for me when I arrived. They did the work very quickly and I felt the price was fair. I think Toyo has a distribution center in the Atlanta area.

If you go to www.toyo.com and use the FIND A DEALER drop down menu then you can search by zip code to find a nearby dealer.

Ray

2000 Intrigue 11040

Quote from: George Becker
> I couldn't find Action Tire on my mapping program. Could you

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the address in Atlanta and maybe a website? I go through Atlanta

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on the way to Florida and am approaching the time to replace my

Toyos.

Toyo Tires

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Yahoo Message Number: 10541
I just replaced my old Michelin 255 80R 22.5 rear tires with Toyo 265 75R 22.5's, to match the fronts that CCI recently put on. The sidewalls of the Toyos seem to run very hot to the touch....and I mean hot enough where you don't want to keep your hand on it. I didn't notice that much heat with the Michelins. Also, they seem wander much more than the Michelins. Pressure are 110 psi on the fronts and 95 psi on the rears. Anyone else having the same experience. I wonder if this is the difference between a $234 tire vs. a $400+ tire?
Mike

'95 Intrigue 10061

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Reply #18 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10542
Mike, I just had 6 Toyo tires installed, I had 315/80R/22.5 on front and 12R/22.5 rear. I had 110psi front and 100psi rear. After one hour of driving I felt the side walls and noticed no abnormal temp. Smart tire read in the normal range as well.
I did notice a little wandering but was only waging the tire pressure and the weight at the time.
I removed 5 year old Toyo of the same size and noticed no wandering prior to change, I think the coach may have been loaded differently as both gray and Black tanks were reaching full. [Had been dry camping] I usually don't drive with these tanks full.
All of that and probably didn't help you a bit.
Larry

'99 Affinity

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Yahoo Message Number: 10546
Mike,

I replaced my Toyo's on the front after two years of wandering all over the road. Also had very odd wearing pattern. Put Michelens on the front and had the coach alligned by the tire guy that comes to Buddy Gregg and does all of their tire work. In 2003 got 6 Toyos because of the tire recall by CC and switched the Toyos for 4 Michelens and had the guy put them on even switching my older front tires to the back. Wandering-- coach no more --myself, well wondering where I will be going next.

Egon

Quote from: faa_engineer
I just replaced my old Michelin 255 80R 22.5 rear tires with Toyo > 265 75R 22.5's, to match the fronts that CCI recently put on. The > sidewalls of the Toyos seem to run very hot to the touch....and I > mean hot enough where you don't want to keep your hand on it. I > didn't notice that much heat with the Michelins. Also, they seem > wander much more than the Michelins. Pressure are 110 psi on the > fronts and 95 psi on the rears. Anyone else having the same > experience. I wonder if this is the difference between a $234

tire

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Yahoo Message Number: 10551
-Mike,

I replaced all rear tires in 2002 and both fronts in 2003. In my case the rears would not hold air and the fronts were showing an "underinflated" wear pattern but i kept air pressure at 110psi, which is where they need to be. I used Goodyears all the way around and you won't believe how much more stable and smooth the Goodyears are. My main reason i used Goodyear was i ran a manufacting plant w/medium duty trucks and had best results w/ Goodyear. I had approx.
35000 miles when I repaced the rears.
Larry

1998 intrigue 10559

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Reply #21 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10555
Quote from: faa_engineer
> I just replaced my old Michelin 255 80R 22.5 rear tires with Toyo > 265 75R 22.5's, to match the fronts that CCI recently put on.
Nope, have run the Toyo's for two years vs old michelins for six months. Noticed no difference. Doesn't mean there isn't any, just am not aware of one.

Dean
The

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sidewalls of the Toyos seem to run very hot to the touch....and I > mean hot enough where you don't want to keep your hand on it. I > didn't notice that much heat with the Michelins. Also, they seem > wander much more than the Michelins. Pressure are 110 psi on the > fronts and 95 psi on the rears. Anyone else having the same > experience. I wonder if this is the difference between a $234

tire

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Reply #23 –
Yahoo Message Number: 10644
I have Continentals in the front, Toyos on the rear. Continentals at 110 psi, Toyos at 100 psi. Sure don't have any wandering, this coach goes right where I point it. Maybe you need to check your load weight and distribution, or possibly alignment.

Dan

Allure #30180

Quote from: C\. Marshall
> My 98 Allure required 105lbs in the rear to reduce the wandering.

36' 98

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Yahoo Message Number: 10646
I have Bridgestones all around. The smart tire indicates high (160 degrees) for the inside drivers dual tire. The outside dual runs about 15 degrees cooler as do the front and passenger side duals. Is this normal for this tire to run hotter than the others? I carry 112-115 Lbs. in the front and 110 lbs in the duals. This is on a 40 ft. 2000, Allure.

John