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Yahoo Message Number: 15796
A couple of weeks ago one of the national news programs had a segment about Bio-diesel fuel which Willie Nelson and a couple of guys are getting into the business and there is a truck stop just north of Hillsboro, TX on I35E (Carl's Corner) that is selling the stuff.
Willie is using it in his Prevost Coachand was featured on the news segment. I know that Carl's corner is quite a disater right now but there are plans of extensive renovations for the facility. Don't know what the current price for bio-diesel is right now but if diesel prices keep going up it may be a way to go and Willie may have hit on a pretty good gold mine.

Another comment--in reading the posts on this forum and others and reading about all of the problems, it seems that the new coaches that have the multitude bells and whistles and costs the enormous amount of money have the majority of problems with most of the add on options.
I think that CCI needs to lokk a producing a coach like the '99 Allure that I have-just the basic options and at a much lower price. With the price of fuel going up just about every day there will be a market for such a coach. My Allure has all the options available in '99 except a slide and window awnings and we love it and have had very little trouble with it. I wanted a coach that I could get in and drive it to either coast without having to sit in a dealers shop waiting for things to be worked on so that I can continue my trip.

Egon

'99 Allure #30321
'02 tahoe Z71

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Yahoo Message Number: 15797
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A couple of weeks ago one of the national news programs had a segment > about Bio-diesel fuel which Willie Nelson and a couple of guys are > getting into the business and there is a truck stop just north of > Hillsboro, TX on I35E (Carl's Corner) that is selling the stuff.
Willie is using it in his Prevost Coachand was featured on the news > segment. I know that Carl's corner is quite a disater right now but > there are plans of extensive renovations for the facility. Don't know > what the current price for bio-diesel is right now but if diesel > prices keep going up it may be a way to go and Willie may have hit on > a pretty good gold mine.
This is one reason I don't see diesel prices going much higher since biodiesel can easily be produced and sold in the $2/gal range. IMHO, it is a superior alternative to regular diesel.
Tom Fisher
Dallas, TX

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Yahoo Message Number: 15798
Egon,

I think you are on the right track. I think many buyers would like to see a simpler coach, rather than all the new gadgets. Unfortunately, it seems most of the new buyers want more and more gadgets, and a lot of things go into the coaches before reliability and durability has been established. Also, most of the new gadgets are electronic, and that's where most of the minor problem crop us. Our main criteria for a coach is one where we don't have to worry about reliability. When I had cars in the sixties, I always carried a tool box with me, and I carry a lot of tools in the coach. I carry no tools in my Maxima, except the jack. Enough said!
Per

5259 Affinity

--- Egon cctravelingman@...> wrote:

A couple of weeks ago one of the national news programs had a segment

about Bio-diesel fuel which Willie Nelson and a couple of guys are

getting into the business and there is a truck stop just north of

Hillsboro, TX on I35E (Carl's Corner) that is selling the stuff.

Willie is using it in his Prevost Coachand was featured on the news

segment. I know that Carl's corner is quite a disater right now but

there are plans of extensive renovations for the facility. Don't know

what the current price for bio-diesel is right now but if diesel

prices keep going up it may be a way to go and Willie may have hit on

a pretty good gold mine.

Another comment--in reading the posts on this forum and others and

reading about all of the problems, it seems that the new coaches that

have the multitude bells and whistles and costs the enormous amount of

money have the majority of problems with most of the add on options.

I think that CCI needs to lokk a producing a coach like the '99 Allure

that I have-just the basic options and at a much lower price. With

the price of fuel going up just about every day there will be a market

for such a coach. My Allure has all the options available in '99

except a slide and window awnings and we love it and have had very

little trouble with it. I wanted a coach that I could get in and

drive it to either coast without having to sit in a dealers shop

waiting for things to be worked on so that I can continue my trip.
Egon

'99 Allure #30321
'02 tahoe Z71

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Yahoo Message Number: 15799
Actually CC does build a less expensive coach without many of the bells and whistles. It is called the Inspire. I like mine just fine

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Yahoo Message Number: 15802
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Hello Per,

In '88 I bought a bradn new "used" CC. It was a gas puller and had only been used to go to football games in Knoxville--never slept in or cooked in. Fridge and tub were used to keep the drinks cold and that's it. In '89 CCI dropped the gas line and went 100% diesel and all of a sudden the pricesof CC's went sky high and the entry level buyer CC customer was left out. I had very good service out of that coach and in '98 started looking for a new coach. Started out looking at used CC's and Monaco's and then was told that I could get into a new CC for about the same price. Yes, in '98 CC had an entry level coach that one could get in for under 185,000 dollars. and now that ocach is priced at 400,000. So if anyone from CCI is reading this forum--get a jump on the others and build a quality entry level coach with out all the bells and whistles. Build one like the '99 Allure!!!!!!
BTW all of you that are having problems with your bells and whistels, would you put up with that many problems on your tow vehicle ( it also takes you down the road, has a lot of bells and whistles and electronic parts) I don't think so.

Egon

'99 Allure #30321
'02 Tahoe Z71

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Yahoo Message Number: 15805
Hi Tom, I have a totally different view. IMHO we will see gas and diesel prices in excess of $5.00 gallon by the end of the decade regardless of the availability of alternative fuels.

 It will be supply/demand driven. With the developing World using both products at ever increasing rates the suppliers will not be able to keep up and there will be a bidding war for the available supply.

 In addition, there will be added pressure to add taxes to support Government spending.

 I do not think this will change the way we use our motor homes. Yes, we might complain about the 'good old days' but most of us will simply review our spending habits and make changes elsewhere.

 For us, it might be adding a few more 'Walmart' stop-overs, cutting back on candy (that would be a good thing), eating out one less time per month, etc., and using up the kids inheritance!

 Compared to the depreciation, service costs, loss of income on money invested in coach and interest paid on loans the cost of fuel is actually not that significant.

 Just my opinion, for what it is worth!

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Yahoo Message Number: 15807
When I was at the CC rally, the Cummings engine tech said that "French Fry" diesel could cause problems with the injector system. They count on the sulfur in the #2 fuel for lubrication. Diesel can be set up to burn anything from natural gas to coal dust, but not all engines will burn everything.

Everett

99 Intrigue 10758

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Yahoo Message Number: 15812
> It will be supply/demand driven. With the developing World using both products at ever increasing rates the suppliers will not be able to keep >up and there will be a bidding war for the available supply.

How much biodiesel do you think the US could profitably produce and sell at $2 - $2.50 /gallon? I bet it is more than enough to supply the demand of diesels in this country. Of course, gasoline is another matter since in can only be produced from crude oil. Diesel is certainly unique in this manner.
Tom Fisher
Dallas, TX

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Yahoo Message Number: 15818
The government needs to incent the petroleum companies (or someone) to invest in biodiesel and the engine companies to make compatible engines. Currently the petro companies don't even invest in refineries. No incentive.
Bob

'05 Intrigue LE #11872

Quote from: TBooneFisher
> > It will be supply/demand driven. With the developing World
using both products at ever increasing rates the suppliers will not be able to keep >up and there will be a bidding war for the available supply.

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Yahoo Message Number: 15824
I'm glad you are happy with your Inspire. We would miss many thing off our Affinity, such as smaller tank capacities, especially the small 110-gallon fuel tank.
While the Inspire weighs about the same, it has a smaller engine and transmission. We would also really miss our three rof ACs, and the over-the road AC in the bedroom. And that's just for starters. We looked at the Inspire, and it just doesn't cut it for us.
The Intrigue is probably the closest to meet our desires out of the current crop, but of course, then we would have to contend with slides. We like reliability and durability, and slides are highly questionable in that regard!. If we had to go with slides, we would dfinitely not go with more than two.

Per

--- Ray Reeves rayreeves2@...> wrote:

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Actually CC does build a less expensive coach > without many of the bells and whistles. It is called > the Inspire. I like mine just fine >

Per Korslund peralko@...> wrote:Egon, >

I think you are on the right track. I think many > buyers would like to see a simpler coach, rather > than

all the new gadgets. Unfortunately, it seems most > of

the new buyers want more and more gadgets, and a lot > of things go into the coaches before reliability and > durability has been established. Also, most of the > new gadgets are electronic, and that's where most of > the minor problem crop us. Our main criteria for a > coach is one where we don't have to worry about > reliability. When I had cars in the sixties, I > always

carried a tool box with me, and I carry a lot of > tools

in the coach. I carry no tools in my Maxima, except > the jack. Enough said!

Per

5259 Affinity

--- Egon cctravelingman@...> wrote: >

A couple of weeks ago one of the national news > programs had a segment

about Bio-diesel fuel which Willie Nelson and a > couple

of guys are

getting into the business and there is a truck stop > just north of

Hillsboro, TX on I35E (Carl's Corner) that is > selling
the stuff.

Willie is using it in his Prevost Coachand was > featured on the news

segment. I know that Carl's corner is quite a > disater

right now but

there are plans of extensive renovations for the > facility. Don't know

what the current price for bio-diesel is right now > but

if diesel

prices keep going up it may be a way to go and > Willie

may have hit on

a pretty good gold mine.

Another comment--in reading the posts on this forum > and others and

reading about all of the problems, it seems that the > new coaches that

have the multitude bells and whistles and costs the > enormous amount of

money have the majority of problems with most of the > add on options.

I think that CCI needs to lokk a producing a coach > like the '99 Allure

that I have-just the basic options and at a much > lower

price. With

the price of fuel going up just about every day > there

will be a market

for such a coach. My Allure has all the options > available in '99

except a slide and window awnings and we love it and > have had very

little trouble with it. I wanted a coach that I > could

get in and

drive it to either coast without having to sit in a > dealers shop

waiting for things to be worked on so that I can > continue my trip.

Egon

'99 Allure #30321
'02 tahoe Z71

To visit your group on the web, go to: >
">Country-Coach-Owners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >

> >

To visit your group on the web, go to: >
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> >

Ray, Doris, Klondike

04 Inspire 51023

02 Jeep Liberty

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Yahoo Message Number: 15933
Egon,

We saw the 98 and 99 Allure and thought they were awful. At that time we had a Safari. CCI has only made 500 coaches on the Mag line since 2001 and they sell all they can make. There are some of us that like all the bells and whistles and are willing to pay for that. In my neighborhood alone (75 RV homes) at least 50% of the coaches are over 350k and even at $2.15 a gal for diesel 25 of us will travel to ND and NM this summer. A total of 7000 miles. I don't think the high prices of fuel or coaches is going to slow down the high end diesel market, but I don't buy stock in the RV market. I don't always back up my opinion with my investments

Bill G. 2005 Magna #6425