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Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Yahoo Message Number: 16745
I was told by the salesman that my Inspire 330 would tow 10,000lbs without issue. I explained that I wanted to tow a race car trailer that weighed in at about 8000lbs and that had a tongue weight of about 10% or 825lbs as I currently have it balanced. He said this would not be an issue.

After getting the Inspire 330 and setting it up to tow I noticed underneath the hitch was stamped some warnings which said that it would tow 10,000 lbs and that the tongue weight should not exceed 600lbs at 8 inches from the receiver. This frustrated me so I called CC technical support to discuss. After a week of back and forth calls I was officially told that the issue was not the hitch but the rear axle load. Though the tech said that he felt there was no issue but could not officially tell me that.
I explained that you could not tow a 10000lb trailer without putting around 10% or 1000 lbs safely and he agreed. I feel a bit mislead here as if they would have said they were only supporting a 600 lb tongue weight I would not have bought the coach as this equates to a safe towing only 6000 lbs. Not enough for my needs.

The information he provided is also strange. He said:

1. The rear axle is rated at 20000 lbs by CC. Though the axle manufacturer rates it at 21000 lbs. CC lowers the number for safety reasons according to him.

2. The GVWR is 32,800 lbs

3. The weighed front axle and rear axle at the factory with full
water, propane, fuel and a driver is 10,125 front and 19,309 rear.

Given these numbers the rear axle payload is on 691 lbs (20000 - 19309) which seems impossible to believe that there is that little of capacity for payload. So if you use the manufacturer numbers that jumps up 1000 lbs to 1,691 lbs. This does not seem to be much considering folks will load the coach with alot of stuff and if I were to simply stay within the tongue weight specs I would be at the maximum for the rear axle with only 700 lbs on the tongue, right?

Also, the available payload for the entire coach is:

GVWR 32,800 - Weighed value of 29,341 for a total payload of 3,459 lbs. Even if I dispersed this weight evenly I would again exceed the rear axle weight without towing anything. Again, this does not sound right.

Thoughts? Experience towing?

Your help is appreciated!

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16750
Kary welcome to the club. I too tow a race car on an open trailer, although not as heavy as yours so I have been involved in these issues for a number of years. About 5 years ago I was pulling my race car in an enclosed 22' trailer loaded with all the crap you usually carry. I was pulling it with a 19' class C gas rig. We raced all over from Colorado to California and never had the slightest problem. Even towed it to California once with no trailer brakes, not recommended. All you are likely to get from any manufacturer or vendor is CYA answers so good luck and I'd be real interested in hearing if you really do get something definitive. I have and I bet you have too seen some ungodly combinations of trailers and tow vehicles at tracks and maybe the best answer is to hook up with a really good hitch installer and have them give you some input. Great math though and that can't be faulted.
Good luck

Ron 98 Allure 30185

kary993 wrote:

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16760
Kary,

I think you worked it out properly. You did your homework, every one of the people you see pulling these hugh trailers on the road are over weight either on the axles, tires, brakes or chassis. Every RV manufacturer is using truck equipment in their chase and they are limited by what is made and what the government will allow on the roads. Remember 18 wheelers are doing what we do on 6 to 8 wheels. I don't believe you are going to find anything with more caring capacity then a CC so you are between the rock and the hard place. It's sad that most sales people don't know what they are selling.

Bill g. 2005 Magna #6425

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16762
Bill,

I don't quite understand your reference of 18 wheelers and us at 6 to 8 wheels doing the same thing! Our trucks are grossing 80,000 lbs on those 18 wheels.
Just curious....
Tom

04 Allure 30979

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16764
Kary

I have struggled with this same issue with my 2003 Allure. My numbers are close to yours, except I have about 900 lbs on the rear axle (vs your ~600lbs). I run with about a 1/4 tank of fresh water to run the toilet and for washing hands. This gives me an extra 6- 700 lbs of breathing room on the rear axle (I think). Plus I have an extra 1000 lbs from the axle manufacturer. Don't like the situation either but hopefully I can live with it (pun intended). I haven't figured out yet what to do about the mere 600 lbs tongue weight. One thought is to just tow a truck and put all my stuff in it. This would give me no tongue weight to speak of. If I ever get another coach, I will pay more attention to the specs. Good luck!

Larry, Debbie, Tiki and Tomi (Pugs) USAF retired

36' 2003 Allure #30956

Quote from: kary993
I was told by the salesman that my Inspire 330 would tow 10,000lbs > without issue. I explained that I wanted to tow a race car trailer > that weighed in at about 8000lbs and that had a tongue weight of

about

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10% or 825lbs as I currently have it balanced. He said this would

not

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be an issue.

After getting the Inspire 330 and setting it up to tow I noticed > underneath the hitch was stamped some warnings which said that it > would tow 10,000 lbs and that the tongue weight should not exceed > 600lbs at 8 inches from the receiver. This frustrated me so I

called

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CC technical support to discuss. After a week of back and forth

calls

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I was officially told that the issue was not the hitch but the rear > axle load. Though the tech said that he felt there was no issue

but

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could not officially tell me that.

I explained that you could not tow a 10000lb trailer without

putting

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around 10% or 1000 lbs safely and he agreed. I feel a bit mislead > here as if they would have said they were only supporting a 600 lb > tongue weight I would not have bought the coach as this equates to

a

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safe towing only 6000 lbs. Not enough for my needs.

The information he provided is also strange. He said: >

1. The rear axle is rated at 20000 lbs by CC. Though the axle > manufacturer rates it at 21000 lbs. CC lowers the number for

safety

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reasons according to him.

2. The GVWR is 32,800 lbs

3. The weighed front axle and rear axle at the factory with full > water, propane, fuel and a driver is 10,125 front and 19,309 rear.

Given these numbers the rear axle payload is on 691 lbs (20000 - > 19309) which seems impossible to believe that there is that little

of

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capacity for payload. So if you use the manufacturer numbers that > jumps up 1000 lbs to 1,691 lbs. This does not seem to be much > considering folks will load the coach with alot of stuff and if I

were

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to simply stay within the tongue weight specs I would be at the > maximum for the rear axle with only 700 lbs on the tongue, right? >

Also, the available payload for the entire coach is: >

GVWR 32,800 - Weighed value of 29,341 for a total payload of 3,459 > lbs. Even if I dispersed this weight evenly I would again exceed

the

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rear axle weight without towing anything. Again, this does not

sound

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16765
[Country-Coach-Owners] Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspir There is a lesson here for everyone. When shopping for a motorhome, never listen to what the salesman says. Go immediately to the bathroom vanity cabinet door and look at the numbers. When shopping for my 40 foot diesel coach, I started looking at Monoco (Dynasty, Executive, etc.) and immediately went into the bathroom to check GVWR's etc. while the wife admired the upholstery. I found many of them (40' diesel with tag) with a CCC of under 3500 lbs. My Intrigue has a CCC of 7351 lbs and would really be difficult to overload.
Same goes with vehicles that you want to tow (4 down). Again, don't listen to salesmen and go immediately to the owner's manual and read with your own eyes that this puppy can be flat towed without any nonsense about stopping every few miles to turn it on, or speeds limited to anything unreasonable. We need to pay more attention to important things when doing our toy shopping.

Dick Bradley
2004 Intrigue
11830

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16767
Really glad to read your letter about rear axle over-loading. I thought I was the only one who had made the same mistake. We bought a new '04 Intrigue, 36', single rear axle. Right over my head, the weight ticket from CC said 19,700 on the rear axle off their scales.
By the time we were ready for travel and hooked my 15' enclosed motorbike trailer with one bike, I weighed out at 20,500.
We put up with this situation for 10 months. I kept thinking about it and the more time went on the more it bothered me. I wasn't really concerned with the structural capacity of the chassis, as I'm sure the rear axle has an engineering safety factor well over the 20,000 rating. What bothered me was being legally over weight. It doesn't matter if you have a 50,000 lb rated axle, the federal law limits any one axle to 20,000 lb. And even though RV don't have to cross highway scales, it has to be a matter of time before the feds get smart and realize all the over-weight RV's going over the rolling scales and start diverting EVERYTHING over 20,000 into the "fee zone". I heard of one fella with a single axle Magna that wasn't allowd on an Ohio tollway because his axle weight exceeded 20,000.

You are absolutely right, you can't load your coach to the maximum without exceeding the rear axle limit. You could put the whole load in the front bay and you still would be over on the rear. It's a physical impossibility to haul the maximum weight legally, if not safely.
So, last August, at the Home Coming Rally, we traded the '04 Intrigue for a 38' '04 Intrigue with a tag. Problem is gone.
Sorry, but that's your only solution. If you can't make a trade, be sure to have Tire Smart installed if you don't have it and closely monitor the tire temperatures when you're pulling your trailer. More stops for cooling may prevent a major problem.

Roger
11699

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Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16774
Tom,

I'm grossing 45,000# on my new 40 foot Magna with 3 slides. We went with the 40 foot, 3 slides to keep the weight down, however many people go 45 feet with 4 slides top out at over 50,000# and never worry about the weight. If my math is correct we are doing this with 8 wheels, thats less then half of the wheels on an 18 wheeler that weights only 30,000 more. but we use the same axles as the trucks. and in some cases the same tires (although our Mag tires are bigger then most trucks). All I am trying to say is that we are limited by the same equipment available to trucks but we try to do it on less and demand more. There are a lot of truckers out there that think we should also go into weighing stations and get a special lisence. I see that day coming because the market place keeps demanding more and more out of equipment that can only do so much. Every time I tell people that the 315 tires are only rated at 65 mph they laugh and still drive 75 because we have the engine and chassis to do that but we are really limiterd by the tires. Sorry to run on like this but I take my tires and weights real serious.

Bill G. 2005 Magna #6425

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16787
Dick:

There is one thing that could help you a bunch on your rear axle loading with the trailer in tow. Use an equalizer hitch. You will have to investigate the proper component sizing, but it will transfer a bunch of that tongue weight to the front axle of the coach. I think there a pain to hook and unhook, but much better than being overloaded.

Roger
11699

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Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16792
Thank you all for your insights into this situation. It is nice to have a resource such as this forum to get information. I am currently talking with a Country Coach regional manager to come to some sort of agreement on the towing issues. As well, there have been some serious issues with my coach one of which is the replacement of the Cat C9 engine block and possibly the bell housing. Quie frustrating given what has happened here.

Thanks again and I will post as things progress.

Kary

CC #51499

Quote from: kary993

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #10 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16854
All you will need is a 4 to 5 foot cheater bar to pull up the layches the chains connect to that put tension on the transfer bars. Look at the Reese web site.
TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #12 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16857
Call me skepital but has anyone actually weighed a coach before and after to see if a equalizer works on a 40'+- rig? A car or pickup I can see it working but a MH.
Cary

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> There is one thing that could help you a bunch on your rear axle > > loading with the trailer in tow. Use an equalizer hitch. You

will

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have to investigate the proper component sizing, but it will

transfer

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a bunch of that tongue weight to the front axle of the coach. I

think

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there a pain to hook and unhook, but much better than being

overloaded.

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> Roger
> 11699
>
>

[quote author=Dick Bradley
>]
>> There is a lesson here for everyone. When shopping for a

motorhome,

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never listen to what the salesman says. Go immediately to the > >> bathroom vanity cabinet door and look at the numbers. When

shopping

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for my 40 foot diesel coach, I started looking at Monoco

(Dynasty,

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Executive, etc.) and immediately went into the bathroom to check > >> GVWR's etc. while the wife admired the upholstery. I found many

of

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them (40' diesel with tag) with a CCC of under 3500 lbs. My

Intrigue

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has a CCC of 7351 lbs and would really be difficult to overload.
>> Same goes with vehicles that you want to tow (4 down). Again,

don't

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listen to salesmen and go immediately to the owner's manual and

read

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with your own eyes that this puppy can be flat towed without any > >> nonsense about stopping every few miles to turn it on, or speeds > >> limited to anything unreasonable. We need to pay more attention

to

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important things when doing our toy shopping.
>>

>> Dick Bradley
>> 2004 Intrigue
>> 11830
>>

>> >Kary
>> >

>> >I have struggled with this same issue with my 2003 Allure. My > >> >numbers are close to yours, except I have about 900 lbs on the

rear

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>axle (vs your ~600lbs). I run with about a 1/4 tank of fresh

water

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>to run the toilet and for washing hands. This gives me an

extra 6-

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>700 lbs of breathing room on the rear axle (I think). Plus I

have

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>an extra 1000 lbs from the axle manufacturer. Don't like the > >> >situation either but hopefully I can live with it (pun
intended). I

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>haven't figured out yet what to do about the mere 600 lbs

tongue

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>weight. One thought is to just tow a truck and put all my

stuff in

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>it. This would give me no tongue weight to speak of. If I

ever get

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>another coach, I will pay more attention to the specs. Good

luck!

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>

>> >Larry, Debbie, Tiki and Tomi (Pugs) > >> >USAF retired

>> >36' 2003 Allure #30956
>> >
>> >
>> >

[quote author=kary993"
>> >]
>> >> I was told by the salesman that my Inspire 330 would tow

10,000lbs

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>> without issue. I explained that I wanted to tow a race car

trailer

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>> that weighed in at about 8000lbs and that had a tongue

weight of

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>about

>> >> 10% or 825lbs as I currently have it balanced. He said

this would

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>not
>> >> be an issue.
>> >>

>> >> After getting the Inspire 330 and setting it up to tow I

noticed

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>> underneath the hitch was stamped some warnings which said

that it

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>> would tow 10,000 lbs and that the tongue weight should not

exceed

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>> 600lbs at 8 inches from the receiver. This frustrated me

so I

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>called

>> >> CC technical support to discuss. After a week of back and

forth

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>calls

>> >> I was officially told that the issue was not the hitch but

the rear

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>> axle load. Though the tech said that he felt there was no

issue

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>but

>> >> could not officially tell me that.
>> >>

>> >> I explained that you could not tow a 10000lb trailer without > >> >putting

>> >> around 10% or 1000 lbs safely and he agreed. I feel a bit

mislead

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>> here as if they would have said they were only supporting a

600 lb

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>> tongue weight I would not have bought the coach as this

equates to

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>a

>> >> safe towing only 6000 lbs. Not enough for my needs.
>> >>

>> >> The information he provided is also strange. He said: > >> >>

>> >> 1. The rear axle is rated at 20000 lbs by CC. Though the

axle

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>> manufacturer rates it at 21000 lbs. CC lowers the number

for

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>safety

>> >> reasons according to him.
>> >>

>> >> 2. The GVWR is 32,800 lbs > >> >>

>> >> 3. The weighed front axle and rear axle at the factory with

full

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>> water, propane, fuel and a driver is 10,125 front and

19,309 rear.

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>>

>> >> Given these numbers the rear axle payload is on 691 lbs

(20000 -

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>> 19309) which seems impossible to believe that there is that

little

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>of

>> >> capacity for payload. So if you use the manufacturer

numbers that

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>> jumps up 1000 lbs to 1,691 lbs. This does not seem to be

much

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>> considering folks will load the coach with alot of stuff

and if I

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>were

>> >> to simply stay within the tongue weight specs I would be at

the

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>> maximum for the rear axle with only 700 lbs on the tongue,

right?

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>>

>> >> Also, the available payload for the entire coach is: > >> > >

>> >> GVWR 32,800 - Weighed value of 29,341 for a total payload

of 3,459

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>> lbs. Even if I dispersed this weight evenly I would again

exceed

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>the

>> >> rear axle weight without towing anything. Again, this does

not

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>sound
>> >> right.
>> >>

>> >> Thoughts? Experience towing? > >> >>

>> >> Your help is appreciated! > >> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #13 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16861
I found this site to be helpful though I have not done the calculations yet to determine if it makes a difference:
http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/14265335.cfm
Clearly, with a weight distributing hitch the bars force the front the of trailer and the rear of the two vehicle up to level it and distribute weight to the rear of the trailer and to the front of the tow vehicle. Using the calculations in the link above I suppose I could figure out what weight bars are needed to distribute weight but not sure what it might take given the larger distances from the rear axle to the hitch receiver itself.
Secondly, I have a trailer that has a v-nose which covers almost the entire from beams of the trailer that need to be exposed to install the latches for the chains that attach to the bars. I talked with the Aluminum Trailer Company about this and they said I could still do it my getting some bars that are bolted to the beams on the sides and then altering the latches to be mounted onto those new bars on the beam. I am not sure yet what this looks like and again I am not sure it will matter given the huge load of the coach. Might be hard to put weight forward on the coach on such a large distance.
So I am skeptical as well as the real physics whether or not it really distributes weight or not.

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #14 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16873
Marshall,

Have not checked Goodyears but why are they higher in speed rating then Michellin or Toyo. Are you talking about the 315s and 365s? Sure you can take this tire to 75mph but your need to add 10 pounds of air over and above what your weight requires but not above the air limits of the tire. Tough to do if you have a Magna or higher. So the secert is, if you want to drive faster then 65 buy a smaller coach. All the other sizes are rated at 75mph, it's just the big tires for the big coaches with the big engines that are rated at 65. Kinda funny that you get all this horse power and can't use it. If you buy your tires in Europe as Newel does you can get a speed rating of 75 but because we have more lawyers then Europe the tire manufacturers are afraid to raise the tire rating on the 315s. Talk to the tire engineers sometime at FMCA conventions. They don't want to discuss it unless you bring it up. Its a real issue on big coaches but no one wants to address it for fear of hurting sales. FMCA is just starting to address the speed issue at their seminars.

Bill G. 2005 Magna #6425

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #15 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16874
Please forgive the ignorance but what is the Reese website?

Kary
#51499

Quote from: C\. Marshall
> All you will need is a 4 to 5 foot cheater bar to pull up the

layches the

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chains connect to that put tension on the transfer bars. Look at the

Reese

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web site.
TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731 >

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #17 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16884
General update on this. I have been talking with CC in some detail and they are going to look into strengthening the hitch to support more than 600 lbs. I also found out that it was a recent increase in 2004 to have a 10000 lbs tow weight with a 600 lb tongue weight.
According to Holland, the previous numbers were 8000 and 800.

I also took the advice off this board and went down and weighed my coach. I have a full tank of gas, 1/4 tank of water, 3/4 full propane and myself in the coach at weighing. Here are the numbers:

GVW: 29,160

Front GAW: 10,180
Rear GAW: 18,980

Front drivers side: 4540
Front passenger side: 4600
Rear drivers side: 9040
Rear passenger side: 9100

This leaves me about 1000 lbs n the rear for stuff (towing and gear) if I stay within the 20,000 lb maximum for a single axle. CC has stated that this Inspire 330 has a 21,000 limit. Does not leave much room if I tow anything with a significant tongue weight but I will see what CC comes up with on the hitch.
On another note I have Toyo M120z tires which as stated on them will handle a single tire load of 6610 lbs and a dual of 6005 lbs. It appears with those numbers that these ae well within my payload capacity! I am having trouble finding the tire pressure charts for these tires. Also what does the 146/143L rating on the tire mean in terms of load and speed?

Quote from: C\. Marshall
> All you will need is a 4 to 5 foot cheater bar to pull up the

layches the

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chains connect to that put tension on the transfer bars. Look at the

Reese

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web site.
TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731 >

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #18 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16905
I tow a 20' enclosed trailer (8,000) with a 40' Allure with a tag.
Because of the tag, rear axle weight is not an issue. There is no reason however why you can not use a weight distributing hitch to take some of the load off of the rear axle. I find that using one tends to plant the front axle of the coach just a bit better so that I don't get pushed around quite so much in cross winds. The reason you normally want to have 10 to 15% of total trailer weight on the tong is to avoid having the "tail wag the dog". With a tow vehicle that weighs something like four times the trailer, I doubt very much that you would experience any instability with far less tong weight than the 10%. The real safety issue with trailer towing however is that the receiver on you coach is not strong enough to handle a trailer of any size. The receiver is welded to a two and one half inch square bar that will twist under the impact loading experienced while traveling down the road. This eventually results in the welds breaking the receiver separating from the coach. I believe that it is absolutely essential to reinforce the receiver to safely tow a trailer of that size. I know of people who have lost their trailer from the back of a coach that way and it is not pretty. My son (a mechanical engineer) designed and helped me install a reinforced hitch but any good metal fab shop should be able to do the job for something in the range of $300 to $500. Incidentally, I have an ATC trailer on order, how do you like yours.

Don & Janet Scott
02 Allure #30799

04 VW R32 & BMW F650 GS Dakar

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #19 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16906
Don, thank you for the reply. I have been towing this ATC trailer for the past 2.5 years behind a GMC Yukon Denali without issue. I have not used a weight distributing hitch mainly because I have a v-nose up front over the trailer beams which inhibits putting the weight distributing hitch bars, but recently I was pointed to the ATC site where they welded on outside the V-nose some additional metal attached to the beams that allows for the attachment of the weight distributing hitch bars/chains. I will be looking into this. Before I do this further, what type of weight distributing hitch do you have and what load of bars are needed to effectively distribute weight on such a large tow vehicle as ours? I also have an 8" drop to make my trailer level as it is a race trailer so any advice on weight distributing hitches that have that sort of drop are welcome!
I have been in contact with CC about this and am expecting a response from them on how to reinforce the receiver to handle a higher load than 600 lbs of tongue weight even if I am not going to use that much.
I would like to have some safety margin.

As far as ATC I have been happy with the trailer for the past 2.5 years. Had some small issues recently around the jack at the hitch failing and the spring loaded rear door panel above began to rub a hole through the metal. In both cases, with some effort on my part, they sent me a new jack and a new large aluminum panel redesigned to avoid the rubbing problem. Unfortunately I will be coming to the end of my 3 year warranty so I hope no other issue occur! In general ATC workmanship is very good and I have seen much worse trailers out there than mine. I am happy with it so far.
Thanks again for your thoughts and look forward to your thoughts about my questions above.

Kary & Carolyn Clements
#51499 2005 Inspire 330

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #20 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16966
You had asked what type of hitch I am using. It is an Eaz Lift with a rating of 1000Lbs for the hitch weight and 10,000 Lbs for the trailer. I am using a 15" drop on the receiver set to the second from lowest hole and that is after we lowered the receiver almost 2" when we added the reinforcements to it! The drop hitch doesn't affect the operation of the weight distributing hitch but it does put additional loading on the receiver thus making is all the more important to make sure it is properly mounted to the coach. Hope that helps, if it would help, I can take a couple of digital photos of the receiver and email them to you. I am not familiar with your coach so I don't have any idea if the work we did on our Allure would be suitable for your coach.

Don & Janet Scott
02 Allure #30799
R32 & BMW F650GSD

Re: Towing Trailer with 2005 Inspire 330

Reply #21 –
Yahoo Message Number: 16968
I appreciate the response and would also like it if you could take some pictures of your hitch modification/reinforcements. It will likely help me at some point here given that CC has stated they will not stand behind a warranty if I modify the hitch even though Holland said to modify it for strength. I do not want to necessarily get that much more tongue weight, I just want to make sure the small Class III hitch they put on there and say is rated to 10,000 lbs won't break!

Kary

#51499 2005 iNSPIRE 330

Quote from: Don & Janet Scott
>
> You had asked what type of hitch I am using. It is an Eaz Lift with
a rating of 1000Lbs for the hitch weight and 10,000 Lbs for the trailer. I am using a 15" drop on the receiver set to the second from lowest hole and that is after we lowered the receiver almost 2" when we added the reinforcements to it! The drop hitch doesn't affect the operation of the weight distributing hitch but it does put additional loading on the receiver thus making is all the more important to make sure it is properly mounted to the coach. Hope that helps, if it would help, I can take a couple of digital photos of the receiver and email them to you. I am not familiar with your coach so I don't have any idea if the work we did on our Allure would be suitable for your coach.