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Water pressure regulator

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According to the manual, my coach has it's own water pressure regulator set at approx. 50 psi. I have always used a regulator on my city water supply hose but wonder if it is necessary. I have noticed that many of coaches in the RV parks don't seem to have any additional regulation.

Thanks for any info.

Ken bradshaw
'04 Allure 31042

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Yahoo Message Number: 31715
Kenny, I have never used an external pressure regulator on my Allure and have never had a related problem. Our coaches are only 4 apart so they are probably very similar.

George in Birmingham
'04 Allure 31038

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George in Birmingham
2003 Magna 6298

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Yahoo Message Number: 31716
Ken ,

If you look in the bay where your water hook up and gray/black drain is, on the lower left in the bay is a access door about 6 inches by 12 inches long held on by Velcro. Remove that access panel and look in there and you will see it. It is brass . john Allure 31060

kenny_bradshaw wrote:

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Yahoo Message Number: 31720
Ken, I purcahased a regulator from Camping World. I screw it on the cacampsite's water faucet. Just taking some additional precaution.
Reese

03 Intrigue 42ft. #11639

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According to the manual, my coach has it's own water pressure

regulator

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set at approx. 50 psi. I have always used a regulator on my city

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supply hose but wonder if it is necessary. I have noticed that many

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Yahoo Message Number: 31721
Sorry Ken, I miss read your thread, I do not use a external regulator, with that said, I have very low pressure when we are hooked up to shore water, and normally just fill my H2O tank and use the pump. The previous owner had the same problem.
John 31060

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Yahoo Message Number: 31722
John, Sounds like your internal pressure regulator is either maladjusted or fouled. Most are adjustable. Generally turn the handle or adjusting screw clockwise to increase pressure, counterclockwise to decrease. All are replaceable for around $50. Many are rebuildable with kits from the manufacturer.

You have a 'house' pressure regulator, not the typical RV type that connect on hoses.
Mike

Attack sub sailor wrote:

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Yahoo Message Number: 31724
Mike,

I removed the regulator last week , overhauled it and pressure tested it, set it to factory spec of 50 psi, still low pressure. The flow rate is also good. Then I installed a 5 or 6 inch 1/2 inch nipple in its place and still the same pressure flow using my home city water supply of 70 psi. I have checked for line restrictions and replaced the in house filter under the sink with just a carbon filter. Cleaned the shower head , removed the restrictor.
I belive it to be under sized line and the run lenth. I installed a pressure guage where I removed the washer and dryer, it reads 60 psi on water pump and 50 when runing thru the regulator. john 31060

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Yahoo Message Number: 31726
Hi John,

I have gone through similar steps to improve water flow at the kitchen sink. One thing that helped a lot was replacing the in-house filter with a carbon filter as you mentioned. The recommended replacement was too fine, .5 micron I think but only going by memory. My in-house filter was accessible through a removable panel in the bay beside the sewer access bay and not under the sink. Our coaches are quite close in number so the under the sink location is new to me.
I have no idea of why that shower restrictor was on there but I got rid of that right from day one. Things are much better now but the kitchen sink is still slower than the other sinks. I also believe that it is due to piping restrictions.
When you said 'it reads 60 psi on the water pump and 50 when running on the regulator' did you have a facet open somewhere? Water piping is much like electrical circuits. The pressure is analogous to voltage, the water flow to amps and the walls of the piping and various other restrictions to resistance. Like a DC circuit, no amps no voltage drop, no flow no pressure drop. That is a simplified idea that is good enough for this case. The analogy falls apart when the piping has a significant elevation change as water has mass and electricity does not.

Don Seager

2004 Allure 31046

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Yahoo Message Number: 31728
If we have low water pressure from the city water, we check to make sure our CC built-in water filter has been recently changed. As fulltimers that's about every 9 months.

Jan McNeill

2001 Intrigue 11320

Water pressure regulator

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Yahoo Message Number: 31729
My last coach (SOB) did not have a regulator. I used a typical one from Camping World or ?? and had pressure problems when taking a shower, etc. so I bought the separate parts and a ¾" house regulator from Home Depot-set it at 50 psi-and that solved the problem. Great pressure and no restriction. That said, I now only use it when I suspect excessive pressure at an rv park as my Allure has a built in regulator. However, I now have the same pressure problems as I did with my last coach. I may replace the coach regulator with the one I bought from Home Depot.
Also, I was walking in an rv park a couple of years ago and turned off water to someone's rv as water was going everywhere from a split water supply hose with no external regulator at the faucet.

For what it's worth.
John

Allure 31308

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Yahoo Message Number: 31732
John, I made a bypass for my regulator out of pvc and some two male fittings. It helped at parks with low water pressure. I noticed you are an ATTACK Boat Sailor. I retired in 73, spent about 13 years on submarines or sub tenders.

Earl Densten

03 Intrigue 11554

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Sorry Ken, I miss read your thread, I do not use a external

regulator,

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with that said, I have very low pressure when we are hooked up to

shore

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water, and normally just fill my H2O tank and use the pump. The > previous owner had the same problem.
 John 31060

rcantrell51 wrote:

Ken, I purcahased a regulator from Camping World. I screw it on

the

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cacampsite's water faucet. Just taking some additional precaution.
Reese

03 Intrigue 42ft. #11639

> In Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com, "kenny_bradshaw" > wrote:
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> According to the manual, my coach has it's own water pressure > regulator

> set at approx. 50 psi. I have always used a regulator on my city > water

> supply hose but wonder if it is necessary. I have noticed that

many

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> coaches in the RV parks don't seem to have any additional

regulation.

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> Thanks for any info.
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> Ken bradshaw
> '04 Allure 31042
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Yahoo Message Number: 31734
The under sized line should only cause less volume, as long as it is the same size throughout. The pressure should be basically the same (or close) to the input pressure. I helped a fellow some time ago with a similar problem. He didn't know he had a full house filter in a bay cavity next to his input controls, right after the house regulator. So, wanting a filter, he installed one under the kitchen sink and was religious about changing it out. He was down to just better than a trickle out of all his faucets when I pointed out the filter in the bay on his '94 Magna. (I have a '95 Magna and it was exactly the same partially hidden installation as mine.) It was pretty bad when we changed it out.

On the Newmar forum I just read where someone had a pasty substance of unknown type inside a fitting (elbow or 'T' - not sure) that was totally blocking the cold input line to his hot water heater. Zero output from all hot water faucets, but cold faucets were just fine. Nobody knew what the substance was after they found it, but removing and cleaning the lines at that juncture fixed the problem.
I guess it is possible you have something similar restricting flow or possibly a kink somewhere early in your line that is slowing down all your faucet outputs. This sounds like something that might only be chased down by following the line from the regulator to each connection, open it, eyeball for restrictions and then put your pressure gauge on it.

Methodical may be the only good path to take.

Mike

'95 Magna #5266

Attack sub sailor wrote:

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Yahoo Message Number: 31735
Don,

When I installed the pressure gauge I did it so I could trouble shoot the 1) low water pressure 2) pressure drop on across filter to see when to change it, 3) monitor shore pressure. The previous owner had re set the regulator to full flow so I had full shore pressure of 70 psi. When I measured the pressure drop with the lav valve open I read 30 to 35 psi. I re set the regulator to 50 psi and I could not get over 30 psi with the same test.
It has to be the line loss with the distance and the 1/2 inch line. All the tests I did with a new charcoal filter , and the gauge is on the cold side.

BTW, what do you use for internet when you are in NH? John Allure 31060

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Yahoo Message Number: 31736
Earl,

Another bubble head. My license plate reads" ATC SUB" You are the 2nd crazy enough guy to go out on a boat that is built to sink, and owns a C.C.

PVC is a good by pass.

Keep a green board

John bubble head for life, Allure 31060

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Yahoo Message Number: 31749
John,

Did you say that the pump worked ok? If so then the restriction has to be somewhere between the water pump and the street inlet fitting. I am not at the coach for a day or so but when I can I will take a look at the plumbing. In 2. which filter are you referring to?
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Don Seager

2004 Allure 31046

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Yahoo Message Number: 31756
Ken,

I have a pressure gauge that I can connect to the campground water supply to check the city pressure. If if is over 80psi I use a whole house regulator set to 80psi that protects my hoses, etc. Under 80psi I let the coach regulator handle the pressure. I had a hose burst at a park with 120psi before I started this procedure.

Bob

'05 Intrigue 11872

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