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06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Yahoo Message Number: 26502
I picked up my Inspire at the end of June 06 and immediately took it to SilverLeaf in Albany, OR where I had that unit installed. Good thing as my CC dash transmission temp guage has never worked. When I got home to ABQ in early July, I took the coach to the only CC-authorized place in ABQ, a Cummins Coach Care facility. They diagnosed the problem as a bad gauge and ordered and installed a new one several weeks later. Gauge still does not work (it never moves off of the left side lowest reading). The SL has been reading tranny temp within a few degrees of engine temp all of the time.
Any ideas on why the CC dash tranny gauge might not be working? I know I can take it back to the Coach Care facility but I am leery of doing that (just don't feel comfortable with them).

Harry

06 Inspire 51933

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26509
Harry. If you crawl under your coach, and look at the tranny, on the front there are 2 hoses that run towards the radiator. The one has wire with a small sending unit in the elbow. That is the trans temp sending unit. Because the unit measures electrical resistance, if you unhook it, the gauge should show zero or max and if you ground it the opposite. Usually grounding is max. That should tell you if it the gauge works. If it does, then it is the sending unit. Let me know. Ned Inspire 51677
Quote from: hseason@\.\.\.

> I picked up my Inspire at the end of June 06 and immediately took it to SilverLeaf in
Albany, OR where I had that unit installed. Good thing as my CC dash transmission temp guage has never worked. When I got home to ABQ in early July, I took the coach to the only CC-authorized place in ABQ, a Cummins Coach Care facility. They diagnosed the problem as a bad gauge and ordered and installed a new one several weeks later. Gauge still does not work (it never moves off of the left side lowest reading). The SL has been reading tranny temp within a few degrees of engine temp all of the time.

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>

Any ideas on why the CC dash tranny gauge might not be working? I know I can
take it back to the Coach Care facility but I am leery of doing that (just don't feel comfortable with them).

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Harry

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Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26575
Ned,

I got under the coach today and found the wire to the tranny temp sending unit. I disconnected the wire and checked my dash temp gauge - still read minimum. I then grounded the wire which was attached to the sending unit and still no movement of the dash gauge. I tried this test with the ignition both on and off and never saw any movement of the dash gauge. Sounds like a bad dash gauge, which is somewhat disconcerting as I was told by the Coach Care facility that they had replaced a faulty gauge and it was operating properly. I don't think so.

Thanx for your tips.

Harry

06 Inspire 51933

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26579
Harry,

You might want to check the wiring from the sender to the gauge. I have found a number of badly crimped terminals and splices on mine that have caused various problems.
Dave

2000 Allure 36'
#30444

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26580
Harry. That sounds like an issue with the gauge but one other check. Remove the leather blister behind the gauges. There are a couple screws on the top, with caps, and one under the dash on the left side of the stearing wheel. If you lay under the stearing wheel and look up, you will see a screw that goes through the plywood of the flat part of the dash and up into the blister. Once off, you can see the back of the gauges. There are 3 wires, one ground, one 12volt power and the other from the sending unit. Does it have 12volt to the gauge? Two things before going to that trouble, is when you turn on the key does the gauge move at all. If it does, it probably has power. Also, check the fues that powers the gauge. If you want to buy a gauge, I think it was only 15 bucks from CC. Have fun! Ned Inspire 51677
Quote from: Harry Season"

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26607
Ned: I was able to determine the following today: The tranny temp gauge has four leads on it for the following: 1) Green for the ground; 2) Brown for the gauge lamp; 3) Yellow for 12 VDC and 4) Red for the wire from the sending unit. I was able to check the yellow wire and, only with the ignition on, I have 12 VDC at that post on the back of the gauge. I then disconnected the wire from the sending unit and grounded it to the chassis (as best I could). I checked the continuity of the red sending unit wire on the back of the gauge and it read ~77 ohms which may be due to the length of the wire and/or my poor grounding at the back of the coach. So, now I know that there is 12 VDC at the gauge and that the wire from the sending unit to the gauge is not open. I guess it still could be a bad gauge or the sending unit, I just don't know.
Do you know what happens if I remove the sending unit from the elbow? Will it drain the coolant? (The sending unit is mounted on the bottom of the elbow.) Harry

06 Inspire 51933

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26608
Harry you didn't ask me but I am pretty sure you will drain the unit. However, check seize and get a plug for temporary use.

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26609
Thanx, James, for the thoughts. Frankly, I am not willing to pull that sending unit if there is ANY chance that the coolant will leak out. I do not want to be in the position of possibly screwing up the reinstall, stripping the threads, whatever, that might lead to a leak in the coolant and resultant transmission damage. I'll just have to get the coach into a CC dealer to have this checked out and repaired properly and under their warranty.

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26615
--Harry. If you still have the blister off the dash there is another way to check the gauge. With the sending unit wire unhook from the gauge, take a short jumper wire and ground the sending unit post. This, with the key on, should show max temp on the gauge. With the wire off the post, should show min temp. That could be reversed but I don't think so. With the sending unit out of the picture, the gauge should work under those conditions. I could send you my extra gauge to see if it works in your coach. Sorry that I forgot about the light wire. I'm not sure about your ohm reading and what it should read. I think you will loose tranny fluid if you remove the sending unit. If someone had to change the sending unit, and you had the new one there, you could make the change without much loss of fluid. Like James said, a plug would be nice to have nearby. Let me know if you want my gauge but that final check should point at the gauge. Ned Inspire 51677 - In Country-Coach- Owners@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Season" wrote:

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>

Ned: I was able to determine the following today: The tranny temp gauge has > four leads on it for the following: 1) Green for the ground; 2) Brown for > the gauge lamp; 3) Yellow for 12 VDC and 4) Red for the wire from the > sending unit. I was able to check the yellow wire and, only with the > ignition on, I have 12 VDC at that post on the back of the gauge. I then > disconnected the wire from the sending unit and grounded it to the chassis > (as best I could). I checked the continuity of the red sending unit wire on > the back of the gauge and it read ~77 ohms which may be due to the length of > the wire and/or my poor grounding at the back of the coach. So, now I know > that there is 12 VDC at the gauge and that the wire from the sending unit to > the gauge is not open. I guess it still could be a bad gauge or the sending > unit, I just don't know.
> Do you know what happens if I remove the sending unit from the elbow? Will > it drain the coolant? (The sending unit is mounted on the bottom of the > elbow.)

Harry

06 Inspire 51933

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> From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ned Herrmann > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:46 PM > To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop >

> Harry. That sounds like an issue with the gauge but one other check. Remove > the

leather blister behind the gauges. There are a couple screws on the top, > with caps,

and one under the dash on the left side of the stearing wheel. If you lay > under the

stearing wheel and look up, you will see a screw that goes through the > plywood of the

flat part of the dash and up into the blister. Once off, you can see the > back of the

gauges. There are 3 wires, one ground, one 12volt power and the other from > the

sending unit. Does it have 12volt to the gauge? Two things before going to > that

trouble, is when you turn on the key does the gauge move at all. If it does, > it probably

has power. Also, check the fues that powers the gauge. If you want to buy a > gauge, I

think it was only 15 bucks from CC. Have fun! Ned Inspire 51677--- In > Country-

Coach-Owners@ yahoogroups.com,
"Harry Season" wrote:
>

> Ned,
>
>
>

> I got under the coach today and found the wire to the tranny temp sending > > unit. I disconnected the wire and checked my dash temp gauge - still read > > minimum. I then grounded the wire which was attached to the sending unit > > and still no movement of the dash gauge. I tried this test with the > > ignition both on and off and never saw any movement of the dash gauge.
> Sounds like a bad dash gauge, which is somewhat disconcerting as I was > told

> by the Coach Care facility that they had replaced a faulty gauge and it > was

> operating properly. I don't think so.
>
>
>

> Thanx for your tips.
>
>
>

> Harry
>

> 06 Inspire 51933
>
>
>

> _____
>

> From: Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ned Herrmann > > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:35 AM > > To: Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop > >
>
>

> Harry. If you crawl under your coach, and look at the tranny, on the front > > there are 2

> hoses that run towards the radiator. The one has wire with a small sending > > unit in the

> elbow. That is the trans temp sending unit. Because the unit measures > > electrical

> resistance, if you unhook it, the gauge should show zero or max and if you > > ground it

> the opposite. Usually grounding is max. That should tell you if it the > gauge

> works. If

> it does, then it is the sending unit. Let me know. Ned Inspire 51677--- In > > Country-

> Coach-Owners@
yahoogroups.com,

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26625
Harry. Today I was at our coach doing somethings and I check a couple points on my tranny temp. The gauge, when grounding the sending unit wire, pegs the needle. But by checking this issue, I noted that my gauge does not zero with the wire unhooked or with it hooked up to the sending unit. It sits at about 170 for a low. I will order a new gauge and sending unit tomorrow. The extra gauge I have is an engine temp.
Ned Inspire 51677
I

Quote from: Harry Season
> > Ned: I was able to determine the following today: The tranny temp gauge has > four leads on it for the following: 1) Green for the ground; 2) Brown for > the gauge lamp; 3) Yellow for 12 VDC and 4) Red for the wire from the > sending unit. I was able to check the yellow wire and, only with the > ignition on, I have 12 VDC at that post on the back of the gauge. I then > disconnected the wire from the sending unit and grounded it to the chassis > (as best I could). I checked the continuity of the red sending unit wire on > the back of the gauge and it read ~77 ohms which may be due to the length of > the wire and/or my poor grounding at the back of the coach. So, now I know > that there is 12 VDC at the gauge and that the wire from the sending unit to > the gauge is not open. I guess it still could be a bad gauge or the sending > unit, I just don't know.
> Do you know what happens if I remove the sending unit from the elbow? Will > it drain the coolant? (The sending unit is mounted on the bottom of the > elbow.)

Harry

06 Inspire 51933

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> From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ned Herrmann > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:46 PM > To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop >

> Harry. That sounds like an issue with the gauge but one other check. Remove > the

leather blister behind the gauges. There are a couple screws on the top, > with caps,

and one under the dash on the left side of the stearing wheel. If you lay > under the

stearing wheel and look up, you will see a screw that goes through the > plywood of the

flat part of the dash and up into the blister. Once off, you can see the > back of the

gauges. There are 3 wires, one ground, one 12volt power and the other from > the

sending unit. Does it have 12volt to the gauge? Two things before going to > that

trouble, is when you turn on the key does the gauge move at all. If it does, > it probably

has power. Also, check the fues that powers the gauge. If you want to buy a > gauge, I

think it was only 15 bucks from CC. Have fun! Ned Inspire 51677--- In > Country-

Coach-Owners@ yahoogroups.com,
"Harry Season" wrote:
>

> Ned,
>
>
>

> I got under the coach today and found the wire to the tranny temp sending > > unit. I disconnected the wire and checked my dash temp gauge - still read > > minimum. I then grounded the wire which was attached to the sending unit > > and still no movement of the dash gauge. I tried this test with the > > ignition both on and off and never saw any movement of the dash gauge.
> Sounds like a bad dash gauge, which is somewhat disconcerting as I was > told

> by the Coach Care facility that they had replaced a faulty gauge and it > was

> operating properly. I don't think so.
>
>
>

> Thanx for your tips.
>
>
>

> Harry
>

> 06 Inspire 51933
>
>
>

> _____
>

> From: Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ned Herrmann > > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:35 AM > > To: Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop > >
>
>

> Harry. If you crawl under your coach, and look at the tranny, on the front > > there are 2

> hoses that run towards the radiator. The one has wire with a small sending > > unit in the

> elbow. That is the trans temp sending unit. Because the unit measures > > electrical

> resistance, if you unhook it, the gauge should show zero or max and if you > > ground it

> the opposite. Usually grounding is max. That should tell you if it the > gauge

> works. If

> it does, then it is the sending unit. Let me know. Ned Inspire 51677--- In > > Country-

> Coach-Owners@
yahoogroups.com,

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #10 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26627
Quote from: Ned Herrmann"
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I noted that my gauge does not zero with the wire unhooked
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or with it hooked up to the sending unit. It sits at about 170 for a
low. I will order a

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new gauge and sending unit tomorrow. The extra gauge I have is an

engine temp.

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Ned Inspire 51677
Ned, my gauge zeroes at 180 degrees. LazyDays has a new one on order.

Please let me know how it goes.
Jay

05 Inspire daVinci 51457

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Reply #11 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26631
Thanx so much, Ned, for your thoughts and ideas. Actually, my Inspire does not have the "leather blister". I can get on my back, scoot back under the steering wheel, and see the back of the gauge, albeit with lots of other wires (for the SmarTire) and vent tubing all in the way. I think it would be rather difficult to actually disconnect the sending unit wire from the back of the gauge - just pretty hard to get to. (Anyone know how the gauge comes out? Is there a "knob" on the top of the back of the gauge that one turns and then the gauge falls out rearward, towards the driver, of the dash? I ask because when I looked at the wiring schematics provided by CC, the picture of the back of the dash with the gauges in seems to indicate that there might be such a knob. If not, I have no idea how that gauge would come out.) But couldn't I disconnect the sending unit wire from the sending unit itself and leave it dangling and then go back to the back of the gauge and I think I could get a wire from the post with the sending unit wire and ground that and see what the gauge does? Seeing that Coach Care tells me that they have already replaced the gauge once, let's not send me yours, but thanx for the offer. If I can just get a definitive reading on the working order of the gauge I could eliminate it as a reason for my problem. I have a buddy who is itching for me to take the sending unit out and so far I have resisted for reasons stated below. Maybe I'll get that plug and get REAL brave...

Harry

06 Inspire 51933

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Reply #12 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26634
Jay Will let you know what I get, which will be at least the end of next week. Maybe it will zero at 170/180.-

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #13 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26635
-Harry Yes, that will work if you unhook the sending unit wire and let it just hang.
Then go to the back of the gauge and ground the sending post. Like I said, my gauge maxed out when I grounded the wire at the sending unit. I feel that changing your sending unit will not do anything if grounding the wire doesn't effect the gauge. If grounding the sender post on the back of gauge does not max it out, that points at the gauge. Doing it from the back of the instrument makes sure the wire from the sender is not an issue. My gauges have a " U " shaped bracket with holes that fit over studs on the back of the gauge. Nuts fit on them to hold the bracket. The knob your thinking of, could be the bulb holder for the gauge. I don't remember what or exactly the way it is set up. Sorry!

Ned Inspire 51677

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Reply #14 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26672
Today I was able to ground the sending post to the ground post on the back of the tranny temp gauge and the gauge pegged to the right when the ignition was turned on! I think I've got a good gauge. However, I then tried to go to the sending unit, disconnect the sending unit wire and tried to ground it and never could get the gauge to peg again. Either I'm not getting a good ground or the wire is broken which I would think is highly unlikely. Question: In my chassis battery bay I see a bar mounted on the rear (toward the center of the coach) with a number of all green wires connected to different posts on the common bar. I am assuming that this is a common grounding bar for the coach. It is relatively close to where the sending unit wire is connected under the tranny. Would it make sense to try and ground my sending unit wire directly to this common grounding bar, rather than to some random point on the chassis which I tried (several nuts, screws, etc.) in vain today? I.e., go directly to what is clearly a chassis grounding point being used for many other grounding purposes.
Harry 06 Inspire 51933

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #15 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26675
Chassis grounding is not reliable due paint, rust, rubber washers, sealant, etc. Always use a known ground, and make a good connection iven the choice.

If in doubt, take your ohmeter, set to low ohms, and test ground to ground. Should get zero ohms. If not, bad ground.

Regards

Ray and Rue
05 Allure 31176

Quote from: Harry Season
>

Today I was able to ground the sending post to the ground post on

the back

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of the tranny temp gauge and the gauge pegged to the right when the

ignition

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was turned on! I think I've got a good gauge. However, I then

tried to go

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to the sending unit, disconnect the sending unit wire and tried to

ground it

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and never could get the gauge to peg again. Either I'm not getting

a good

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ground or the wire is broken which I would think is highly unlikely.
Question: In my chassis battery bay I see a bar mounted on the rear

(toward

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the center of the coach) with a number of all green wires connected

to

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different posts on the common bar. I am assuming that this is a

common

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grounding bar for the coach. It is relatively close to where the

sending

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unit wire is connected under the tranny. Would it make sense to

try and

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ground my sending unit wire directly to this common grounding bar,

rather

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than to some random point on the chassis which I tried (several

nuts,

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screws, etc.) in vain today? I.e., go directly to what is clearly

a chassis

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grounding point being used for many other grounding purposes.

Harry 06 Inspire 51933

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Herrmann

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Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:02 PM > To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp

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>

-Harry Yes, that will work if you unhook the sending unit wire and

let it

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just hang.

Then go to the back of the gauge and ground the sending post. Like

I said,

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my gauge

maxed out when I grounded the wire at the sending unit. I feel that

changing

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your

sending unit will not do anything if grounding the wire doesn't

effect the

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gauge. If

grounding the sender post on the back of gauge does not max it out,

that

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points at

the gauge. Doing it from the back of the instrument makes sure the

wire from

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the

sender is not an issue. My gauges have a " U " shaped bracket with

holes

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that fit over

studs on the back of the gauge. Nuts fit on them to hold the

bracket. The

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knob your

thinking of, could be the bulb holder for the gauge. I don't
remember what

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or exactly

the way it is set up. Sorry!

Ned Inspire 51677 -- In Country-Coach- >
Owners@yahoogroups.com,

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"Harry Season" wrote:
>

> Thanx so much, Ned, for your thoughts and ideas. Actually, my

Inspire does

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not have the "leather blister". I can get on my back, scoot back

under the

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steering wheel, and see the back of the gauge, albeit with lots

of other

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wires (for the SmarTire) and vent tubing all in the way. I think

it would

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be rather difficult to actually disconnect the sending unit wire

from the

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back of the gauge - just pretty hard to get to. (Anyone know how

the gauge

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comes out? Is there a "knob" on the top of the back of the gauge

that one

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turns and then the gauge falls out rearward, towards the driver,

of the

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dash? I ask because when I looked at the wiring schematics
provided by CC,

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the picture of the back of the dash with the gauges in seems to

indicate

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that there might be such a knob. If not, I have no idea how that

gauge

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would come out.) But couldn't I disconnect the sending unit wire

from the

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sending unit itself and leave it dangling and then go back to the

back of

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the gauge and I think I could get a wire from the post with the

sending

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unit

> wire and ground that and see what the gauge does? Seeing that

Coach Care

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tells me that they have already replaced the gauge once, let's

not send me

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yours, but thanx for the offer. If I can just get a definitive

reading on

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the working order of the gauge I could eliminate it as a reason

for my

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problem. I have a buddy who is itching for me to take the sending

unit out

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and so far I have resisted for reasons stated below. Maybe I'll

get that

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plug and get REAL brave.
>
>
>

> Harry
>

> 06 Inspire 51933
>
>
>

> _____
>

> From: Country-Coach-

40yahoogroups.com>

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>Owners@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:Country-Coach-
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>Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ned Herrmann > > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:59 PM > > To: Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp

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>
>

> --Harry. If you still have the blister off the dash there is

another way

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to
> check the

> gauge. With the sending unit wire unhook from the gauge, take a

short

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jumper
> wire

> and ground the sending unit post. This, with the key on, should

show max

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temp on

> the gauge. With the wire off the post, should show min temp. That

could be

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reversed

> but I don't think so. With the sending unit out of the picture,

the gauge

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should work

> under those conditions. I could send you my extra gauge to see if

it works

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in your

> coach. Sorry that I forgot about the light wire. I'm not sure

about your

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ohm
> reading

> and what it should read. I think you will loose tranny fluid if

you remove

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the sending

> unit. If someone had to change the sending unit, and you had the

new one

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there, you

> could make the change without much loss of fluid. Like James

said, a plug

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would be

> nice to have nearby. Let me know if you want my gauge but that

final check

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should

> point at the gauge. Ned Inspire 51677 - In Country-Coach- > > Owners@yahoogroups. com, "Harry > Season"
> wrote:
> >

> > Ned: I was able to determine the following today: The tranny

temp gauge

Quote
has

> > four leads on it for the following: 1) Green for the ground; 2)

Brown

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for

> > the gauge lamp; 3) Yellow for 12 VDC and 4) Red for the wire

from the

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> sending unit. I was able to check the yellow wire and, only

with the

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> ignition on, I have 12 VDC at that post on the back of the
gauge. I then

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> disconnected the wire from the sending unit and grounded it to

the

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chassis

> > (as best I could). I checked the continuity of the red sending

unit wire

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on

> > the back of the gauge and it read ~77 ohms which may be due to

the

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length
> of

> > the wire and/or my poor grounding at the back of the coach. So,

now I

Quote
know

> > that there is 12 VDC at the gauge and that the wire from the

sending

Quote
unit
> to

> > the gauge is not open. I guess it still could be a bad gauge or

the

Quote
sending

> > unit, I just don't know.
> >

> > Do you know what happens if I remove the sending unit from the

elbow?

Quote
Will

> > it drain the coolant? (The sending unit is mounted on the
bottom of the

Quote
> elbow.)
> >

> > Harry
> >

> > 06 Inspire 51933
> >
> >
> >

> > _____
> >

> > From: Country-Coach-
40yahoogroups.com>

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Owners@yahoogroups. com > > > [mailto:Country-Coach-
40yahoogroups.com>

Quote
Owners@yahoogroups. com] On

Behalf Of

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Ned Herrmann

> > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:46 PM > > > To: Country-Coach-

40yahoogroups.com>

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Owners@yahoogroups. com > > > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp

Gauge

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> >
> >
> >

> > Harry. That sounds like an issue with the gauge but one other

check.

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Remove
> > the

> > leather blister behind the gauges. There are a couple screws on

the top,

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> with caps,

> > and one under the dash on the left side of the stearing wheel.

If you

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lay
> > under the

> > stearing wheel and look up, you will see a screw that goes

through the

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> plywood of the

> > flat part of the dash and up into the blister. Once off, you

can see the

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> back of the

> > gauges. There are 3 wires, one ground, one 12volt power and the

other

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from
> > the

> > sending unit. Does it have 12volt to the gauge? Two things

before going

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to
> > that

> > trouble, is when you turn on the key does the gauge move at

all. If it

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does,
> > it probably

> > has power. Also, check the fues that powers the gauge. If you

want to

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buy
> a

> > gauge, I

> > think it was only 15 bucks from CC. Have fun! Ned Inspire 51677-

-- In

Quote
> Country-
> > Coach-Owners@
yahoogroups.com,

> > "Harry Season" wrote:
> > >

> > > Ned,
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > I got under the coach today and found the wire to the tranny

temp

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sending

> > > unit. I disconnected the wire and checked my dash temp gauge -

still

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read

> > > minimum. I then grounded the wire which was attached to the

sending

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unit

> > > and still no movement of the dash gauge. I tried this test

with the

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> > ignition both on and off and never saw any movement of the

dash gauge.

Quote
> > Sounds like a bad dash gauge, which is somewhat disconcerting

as I was

Quote
> told

> > > by the Coach Care facility that they had replaced a faulty

gauge and

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it
> > was

> > > operating properly. I don't think so.
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > Thanx for your tips.
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > Harry
> > >

> > > 06 Inspire 51933
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > _____
> > >

> > > From: Country-Coach- > Owners%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Owners@yahoogroups. com

> > > [mailto:Country-Coach- > Owners%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Owners@yahoogroups. com] On

Behalf

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Of
> Ned Herrmann

> > > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:35 AM > > > > To: Country-Coach-
40yahoogroups.com>

Quote
> Owners@yahoogroups. com > > > > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny

Temp Gauge

Quote
Inop
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > Harry. If you crawl under your coach, and look at the tranny,

on the

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front
> > > there are 2

> > > hoses that run towards the radiator. The one has wire with a

small

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sending
> > > unit in the

> > > elbow. That is the trans temp sending unit. Because the unit

measures

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> > electrical

> > > resistance, if you unhook it, the gauge should show zero or

max and if

Quote
you
> > > ground it

> > > the opposite. Usually grounding is max. That should tell you

if it the

Quote
> gauge
> > > works. If

> > > it does, then it is the sending unit. Let me know. Ned Inspire > 51677---
> In

> > > Country-

> > > Coach-Owners@
> yahoogroups.com,
> > > hseason@ wrote:
> > > >

> > > > I picked up my Inspire at the end of June 06 and
immediately took it

Quote
to

> > > SilverLeaf in

> > > Albany, OR where I had that unit installed. Good thing as my

CC dash

Quote
> > transmission

> > > temp guage has never worked. When I got home to ABQ in early

July, I

Quote
took
> > > the coach

> > > to the only CC-authorized place in ABQ, a Cummins Coach Care

facility.

Quote
> They

> > > diagnosed the problem as a bad gauge and ordered and
installed a new

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one
> > > several

> > > weeks later. Gauge still does not work (it never moves off of

the left

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> side
> > > lowest

> > > reading). The SL has been reading tranny temp within a few

degrees of

Quote
> engine
> > > temp

> > > all of the time.
> > > >

> > > > Any ideas on why the CC dash tranny gauge might not be

working? I

Quote
know
> I

> > > can

> > > take it back to the Coach Care facility but I am leery of

doing that

Quote
(just
> > > don't feel

> > > comfortable with them).
> > > >

> > > > Harry

> > > > 06 Inspire 51933
> > > >

> > > > ---------

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #16 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26678
Harry. Sure sounds like you have an issue with the sending unit wire. Gauge seems fine. Someone else wrote in, a while back, saying they had a continuity problem with their sending unit wire. Getting a ground at the area of the sending unit should not be that difficult. I stuck a wire in the sending unit clip and just placed the other end under a name plate. High teck. Pegged my gauge. You can ring that wire or run a short jumper to ground at the gauge and then check at the sending unit end, with the wire unhooked, if there is continuity to ground. No need of the key being on. That should confirm the open sending unit wire. Trouble shooting, fun huh.
Ned 2006 Inspire 51677

Quote from: Harry Season"

> Today I was able to ground the sending post to the ground post on the back > of the tranny temp gauge and the gauge pegged to the right when the ignition > was turned on! I think I've got a good gauge. However, I then tried to go > to the sending unit, disconnect the sending unit wire and tried to ground it > and never could get the gauge to peg again. Either I'm not getting a good > ground or the wire is broken which I would think is highly unlikely.
Question: In my chassis battery bay I see a bar mounted on the rear (toward > the center of the coach) with a number of all green wires connected to > different posts on the common bar. I am assuming that this is a common > grounding bar for the coach. It is relatively close to where the sending > unit wire is connected under the tranny. Would it make sense to try and > ground my sending unit wire directly to this common grounding bar, rather > than to some random point on the chassis which I tried (several nuts, > screws, etc.) in vain today? I.e., go directly to what is clearly a chassis > grounding point being used for many other grounding purposes.

Harry 06 Inspire 51933

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> From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ned Herrmann > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:02 PM > To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop >

> -Harry Yes, that will work if you unhook the sending unit wire and let it > just hang.

Then go to the back of the gauge and ground the sending post. Like I said, > my gauge

maxed out when I grounded the wire at the sending unit. I feel that changing > your

sending unit will not do anything if grounding the wire doesn't effect the > gauge. If

grounding the sender post on the back of gauge does not max it out, that > points at

the gauge. Doing it from the back of the instrument makes sure the wire from > the

sender is not an issue. My gauges have a " U " shaped bracket with holes > that fit over

studs on the back of the gauge. Nuts fit on them to hold the bracket. The > knob your

thinking of, could be the bulb holder for the gauge. I don't remember what > or exactly

the way it is set up. Sorry!

Ned Inspire 51677 -- In Country-Coach- >
Owners@yahoogroups.com,

Quote
"Harry Season" wrote:
>

> Thanx so much, Ned, for your thoughts and ideas. Actually, my Inspire does > > not have the "leather blister". I can get on my back, scoot back under the > > steering wheel, and see the back of the gauge, albeit with lots of other > > wires (for the SmarTire) and vent tubing all in the way. I think it would > > be rather difficult to actually disconnect the sending unit wire from the > > back of the gauge - just pretty hard to get to. (Anyone know how the gauge > > comes out? Is there a "knob" on the top of the back of the gauge that one > > turns and then the gauge falls out rearward, towards the driver, of the > > dash? I ask because when I looked at the wiring schematics provided by CC, > > the picture of the back of the dash with the gauges in seems to indicate > > that there might be such a knob. If not, I have no idea how that gauge > > would come out.) But couldn't I disconnect the sending unit wire from the > > sending unit itself and leave it dangling and then go back to the back of > > the gauge and I think I could get a wire from the post with the sending > unit

> wire and ground that and see what the gauge does? Seeing that Coach Care > > tells me that they have already replaced the gauge once, let's not send me > > yours, but thanx for the offer. If I can just get a definitive reading on > > the working order of the gauge I could eliminate it as a reason for my > > problem. I have a buddy who is itching for me to take the sending unit out > > and so far I have resisted for reasons stated below. Maybe I'll get that > > plug and get REAL brave.
>
>
>

> Harry
>

> 06 Inspire 51933
>
>
>

> _____
>

> From: Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ned Herrmann > > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:59 PM > > To: Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop > >
>
>

> --Harry. If you still have the blister off the dash there is another way > to

> check the

> gauge. With the sending unit wire unhook from the gauge, take a short > jumper
> wire

> and ground the sending unit post. This, with the key on, should show max > > temp on

> the gauge. With the wire off the post, should show min temp. That could be > > reversed

> but I don't think so. With the sending unit out of the picture, the gauge > > should work

> under those conditions. I could send you my extra gauge to see if it works > > in your

> coach. Sorry that I forgot about the light wire. I'm not sure about your > ohm

> reading

> and what it should read. I think you will loose tranny fluid if you remove > > the sending

> unit. If someone had to change the sending unit, and you had the new one > > there, you

> could make the change without much loss of fluid. Like James said, a plug > > would be

> nice to have nearby. Let me know if you want my gauge but that final check > > should

> point at the gauge. Ned Inspire 51677 - In Country-Coach- > > Owners@yahoogroups. com, "Harry > Season"
> wrote:
> >

> > Ned: I was able to determine the following today: The tranny temp gauge > > has

> > four leads on it for the following: 1) Green for the ground; 2) Brown > for

> > the gauge lamp; 3) Yellow for 12 VDC and 4) Red for the wire from the > > > sending unit. I was able to check the yellow wire and, only with the > > > ignition on, I have 12 VDC at that post on the back of the gauge. I then > > > disconnected the wire from the sending unit and grounded it to the > chassis

> > (as best I could). I checked the continuity of the red sending unit wire > > on

> > the back of the gauge and it read ~77 ohms which may be due to the > length
> of

> > the wire and/or my poor grounding at the back of the coach. So, now I > know

> > that there is 12 VDC at the gauge and that the wire from the sending > unit
> to

> > the gauge is not open. I guess it still could be a bad gauge or the > > sending

> > unit, I just don't know.
> >

> > Do you know what happens if I remove the sending unit from the elbow? > Will

> > it drain the coolant? (The sending unit is mounted on the bottom of the > > > elbow.)
> >

> > Harry
> >

> > 06 Inspire 51933
> >
> >
> >

> > _____
> >

> > From: Country-Coach-
Owners%40yahoogroups.com>

Quote
Owners@yahoogroups. com > > > [mailto:Country-Coach-
Owners%40yahoogroups.com>

Quote
Owners@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf

Of

Doing Your Own Service (Lubrication)

Reply #17 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26680
As I do not have an authorized Country Coach dealer in ABQ, I was considering doing the coach chassis lubrication on my own. In review of the CC Owner's Guide provided with my coach, I find there are eight chassis grease fitting locations with a total of 25 actual fittings - doesn't seem too overwhelming. Wondering what some of you other owners' experiences have been with doing this job yourself. I would still plan on going to a CAT dealer for engine oil/filter changes and to a local Allison dealer for any tranny work, but I thought I might be able to handle this chassis lube part myself. Any thoughts, concerns would be appreciated.

Harry

06 Inspire 51933

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #18 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26685
Ned, yup, this troubleshooting is really fun. I, too, thought that I could easily ground my sending unit wire, but I'll be darned if I couldn't get my gauge to peg like it did when grounding right on the back of the gauge. I tried to make sure that I was getting a good ground by scratching my alligator clips (on my grounding wire) to parts of the chassis, including bolts, frame members, etc. What do you think of running my ground wire from the sending unit wire to that grounding panel in my chassis battery bay? Seems like I ought to be able to get an alligator clip to make good contact on one of the posts on that bar. This whole thing is becoming an obsession for me. Even dragged the Mrs down there today to watch the gauge while I was trying to make a good ground contact. She was real helpful when she said why don't you just take it to the dealer (in Denver !) J

Harry

06 Inspire 51933

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #19 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26689
Harry. Tell your wife we can not take it to a dealer, that would be too easy. All I did was ground it on the tranny case. Clip it on one of the tranny pan bolts. Still think you got something going on with that wire. Hope there isn't something like an inline fuse in that line. Wonder how that wire runs?????? Do you have a diagram? Running a ground to that block seems really unnecessary to me. Should work with just touching the tranny. All that stuff is grounded. Good luck Ned
Quote from: Harry Season"

> Ned, yup, this troubleshooting is really fun. I, too, thought that I could > easily ground my sending unit wire, but I'll be darned if I couldn't get my > gauge to peg like it did when grounding right on the back of the gauge. I > tried to make sure that I was getting a good ground by scratching my > alligator clips (on my grounding wire) to parts of the chassis, including > bolts, frame members, etc. What do you think of running my ground wire from > the sending unit wire to that grounding panel in my chassis battery bay? > Seems like I ought to be able to get an alligator clip to make good contact > on one of the posts on that bar. This whole thing is becoming an obsession > for me. Even dragged the Mrs down there today to watch the gauge while I > was trying to make a good ground contact. She was real helpful when she > said why don't you just take it to the dealer (in Denver!) :-) >

Harry

06 Inspire 51933

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> From: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ned Herrmann > Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:41 PM > To: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop >

> Harry. Sure sounds like you have an issue with the sending unit wire. Gauge > seems

fine. Someone else wrote in, a while back, saying they had a continuity > problem with

their sending unit wire. Getting a ground at the area of the sending unit > should not

be that difficult. I stuck a wire in the sending unit clip and just placed > the other end

under a name plate. High teck. Pegged my gauge. You can ring that wire or > run a

short jumper to ground at the gauge and then check at the sending unit end, > with the

wire unhooked, if there is continuity to ground. No need of the key being > on. That

should confirm the open sending unit wire. Trouble shooting, fun huh.
Ned 2006 Inspire 51677 --- In Country-Coach- > Owners@yahoogroups. com, "Harry

Season"

Quote
wrote:
>

> Today I was able to ground the sending post to the ground post on the back > > of the tranny temp gauge and the gauge pegged to the right when the > ignition

> was turned on! I think I've got a good gauge. However, I then tried to go > > to the sending unit, disconnect the sending unit wire and tried to ground > it

> and never could get the gauge to peg again. Either I'm not getting a good > > ground or the wire is broken which I would think is highly unlikely.
> Question: In my chassis battery bay I see a bar mounted on the rear > (toward

> the center of the coach) with a number of all green wires connected to > > different posts on the common bar. I am assuming that this is a common > > grounding bar for the coach. It is relatively close to where the sending > > unit wire is connected under the tranny. Would it make sense to try and > > ground my sending unit wire directly to this common grounding bar, rather > > than to some random point on the chassis which I tried (several nuts, > > screws, etc.) in vain today? I.e., go directly to what is clearly a > chassis

> grounding point being used for many other grounding purposes.
>

> Harry 06 Inspire 51933
>
>
>

> _____
>

> From: Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ned Herrmann > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:02 PM > > To: Country-Coach-

Owners@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop > >
>
>

> -Harry Yes, that will work if you unhook the sending unit wire and let it > > just hang.

> Then go to the back of the gauge and ground the sending post. Like I said, > > my gauge

> maxed out when I grounded the wire at the sending unit. I feel that > changing
> your

> sending unit will not do anything if grounding the wire doesn't effect the > > gauge. If

> grounding the sender post on the back of gauge does not max it out, that > > points at

> the gauge. Doing it from the back of the instrument makes sure the wire > from
> the

> sender is not an issue. My gauges have a " U " shaped bracket with holes > > that fit over

> studs on the back of the gauge. Nuts fit on them to hold the bracket. The > > knob your

> thinking of, could be the bulb holder for the gauge. I don't remember what > > or exactly

> the way it is set up. Sorry!

> Ned Inspire 51677 -- In Country-Coach- > >

Owners@yahoogroups. com,
> "Harry Season" wrote:
> >

> > Thanx so much, Ned, for your thoughts and ideas. Actually, my Inspire > does

> > not have the "leather blister". I can get on my back, scoot back under > the

> > steering wheel, and see the back of the gauge, albeit with lots of other > > > wires (for the SmarTire) and vent tubing all in the way. I think it > would

> > be rather difficult to actually disconnect the sending unit wire from > the

> > back of the gauge - just pretty hard to get to. (Anyone know how the > gauge

> > comes out? Is there a "knob" on the top of the back of the gauge that > one

> > turns and then the gauge falls out rearward, towards the driver, of the > > > dash? I ask because when I looked at the wiring schematics provided by > CC,

> > the picture of the back of the dash with the gauges in seems to indicate > > > that there might be such a knob. If not, I have no idea how that gauge > > > would come out.) But couldn't I disconnect the sending unit wire from > the

> > sending unit itself and leave it dangling and then go back to the back > of

> > the gauge and I think I could get a wire from the post with the sending > > unit

> > wire and ground that and see what the gauge does? Seeing that Coach Care > > > tells me that they have already replaced the gauge once, let's not send > me

> > yours, but thanx for the offer. If I can just get a definitive reading > on

> > the working order of the gauge I could eliminate it as a reason for my > > > problem. I have a buddy who is itching for me to take the sending unit > out

> > and so far I have resisted for reasons stated below. Maybe I'll get that > > > plug and get REAL brave.
> >
> >
> >

> > Harry
> >

> > 06 Inspire 51933
> >
> >
> >

> > _____
> >

> > From: Country-Coach-
Owners%40yahoogroups.com>

Quote
Owners@yahoogroups. com > > > [mailto:Country-Coach-
Owners%40yahoogroups.com>

Quote
Owners@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf

Of

Quote
Ned Herrmann

> > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:59 PM > > > To: Country-Coach-
> Owners@yahoogroups. com

> > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge > Inop
> >
> >
> >

> > --Harry. If you still have the blister off the dash there is another way > > to

> > check the

> > gauge. With the sending unit wire unhook from the gauge, take a short > > jumper
> > wire

> > and ground the sending unit post. This, with the key on, should show max > > > temp on

> > the gauge. With the wire off the post, should show min temp. That could > be

> > reversed

> > but I don't think so. With the sending unit out of the picture, the > gauge

> > should work

> > under those conditions. I could send you my extra gauge to see if it > works

> > in your

> > coach. Sorry that I forgot about the light wire. I'm not sure about your > > ohm

> > reading

> > and what it should read. I think you will loose tranny fluid if you > remove

> > the sending

> > unit. If someone had to change the sending unit, and you had the new one > > > there, you

> > could make the change without much loss of fluid. Like James said, a > plug

> > would be

> > nice to have nearby. Let me know if you want my gauge but that final > check

> > should

> > point at the gauge. Ned Inspire 51677 - In Country-Coach- > > > Owners@yahoogroups. com, "Harry > > Season"
> > wrote:
> > >

> > > Ned: I was able to determine the following today: The tranny temp > gauge
> > has

> > > four leads on it for the following: 1) Green for the ground; 2) Brown > > for

> > > the gauge lamp; 3) Yellow for 12 VDC and 4) Red for the wire from the > > > > sending unit. I was able to check the yellow wire and, only with the > > > > ignition on, I have 12 VDC at that post on the back of the gauge. I > then

> > > disconnected the wire from the sending unit and grounded it to the > > chassis

> > > (as best I could). I checked the continuity of the red sending unit > wire
> > on

> > > the back of the gauge and it read ~77 ohms which may be due to the > > length
> > of

> > > the wire and/or my poor grounding at the back of the coach. So, now I > > know

> > > that there is 12 VDC at the gauge and that the wire from the sending > > unit
> > to

> > > the gauge is not open. I guess it still could be a bad gauge or the > > > sending

> > > unit, I just don't know.
> > >

> > > Do you know what happens if I remove the sending unit from the elbow? > > Will

> > > it drain the coolant? (The sending unit is mounted on the bottom of > the

> > > elbow.)
> > >

> > > Harry
> > >

> > > 06 Inspire 51933
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > _____
> > >

> > > From: Country-Coach- > Owners%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Owners@yahoogroups. com

> > > [mailto:Country-Coach- > Owners%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Owners@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf > Of

> Ned Herrmann

> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:46 PM > > > > To: Country-Coach-
> > Owners@yahoogroups. com

> > > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge > > Inop
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > > Harry. That sounds like an issue with the gauge but one other check.
> > Remove
> > > the

> > > leather blister behind the gauges. There are a couple screws on the > top,

> > > with caps,

> > > and one under the dash on the left side of the stearing wheel. If you > > lay

> > > under the

> > > stearing wheel and look up, you will see a screw that goes through the > > > > plywood of the

> > > flat part of the dash and up into the blister. Once off, you can see > the

> > > back of the

> > > gauges. There are 3 wires, one ground, one 12volt power and the other > > from
> > > the

> > > sending unit. Does it have 12volt to the gauge? Two things before > going
> to

> > > that

> > > trouble, is when you turn on the key does the gauge move at all. If it > > > does,

> > > it probably

> > > has power. Also, check the fues that powers the gauge. If you want to > > buy
> > a

> > > gauge, I

> > > think it was only 15 bucks from CC. Have fun! Ned Inspire 51677--- In > > > > Country-

> > > Coach-Owners@
> yahoogroups.com,

> > > "Harry Season" wrote:
> > > >

> > > > Ned,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> > > > I got under the coach today and found the wire to the tranny temp > > > sending

> > > > unit. I disconnected the wire and checked my dash temp gauge - still > > > read

> > > > minimum. I then grounded the wire which was attached to the sending > > unit

> > > > and still no movement of the dash gauge. I tried this test with the > > > > > ignition both on and off and never saw any movement of the dash > gauge.

> > > > Sounds like a bad dash gauge, which is somewhat disconcerting as I > was

> > > told

> > > > by the Coach Care facility that they had replaced a faulty gauge and > > it

> > > was

> > > > operating properly. I don't think so.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> > > > Thanx for your tips.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> > > > Harry
> > > >

> > > > 06 Inspire 51933
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> > > > _____
> > > >

> > > > From: Country-Coach- > > Owners%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Owners@yahoogroups. com

> > > > [mailto:Country-Coach- > > Owners%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Owners@yahoogroups. com] On

Behalf

Quote
Of
> > Ned Herrmann

> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:35 AM > > > > > To: Country-Coach-
Owners%40yahoogroups.com>

Quote
> > Owners@yahoogroups. com > > > > > Subject: [Country-Coach-Owners] Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp > Gauge
> > Inop
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> > > > Harry. If you crawl under your coach, and look at the tranny, on the > > > front

> > > > there are 2

> > > > hoses that run towards the radiator. The one has wire with a small > > > sending

> > > > unit in the

> > > > elbow. That is the trans temp sending unit. Because the unit > measures

> > > > electrical

> > > > resistance, if you unhook it, the gauge should show zero or max and > if

> > you

> > > > ground it

> > > > the opposite. Usually grounding is max. That should tell you if it > the

> > > gauge

> > > > works. If

> > > > it does, then it is the sending unit. Let me know. Ned Inspire > > 51677---
> > In

> > > > Country-

> > > > Coach-Owners@
> > yahoogroups.com,
> > > > hseason@ wrote:
> > > > >

> > > > > I picked up my Inspire at the end of June 06 and immediately took > it
> > to

> > > > SilverLeaf in

> > > > Albany, OR where I had that unit installed. Good thing as my CC dash > > > > > transmission

> > > > temp guage has never worked. When I got home to ABQ in early July, I > > > took

> > > > the coach

> > > > to the only CC-authorized place in ABQ, a Cummins Coach Care > facility.
> > > They

> > > > diagnosed the problem as a bad gauge and ordered and installed a new > > one

> > > > several

> > > > weeks later. Gauge still does not work (it never moves off of the > left

> > > side
> > > > lowest

> > > > reading). The SL has been reading tranny temp within a few degrees > of

> > > engine
> > > > temp

> > > > all of the time.
> > > > >

> > > > > Any ideas on why the CC dash tranny gauge might not be working? I > > know
> > I

> > > > can

> > > > take it back to the Coach Care facility but I am leery of doing that > > > (just

> > > > don't feel

> > > > comfortable with them).
> > > > >

> > > > > Harry

> > > > > 06 Inspire 51933
> > > > >

> > > > > ---------

Re: Doing Your Own Service (Lubrication)

Reply #20 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26694
DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT grease the upper and lower pivots on the IFS. Or you will be replacing "o" rings

ddtuttle

(aka Billy Byte, trusty hound)
2000 Allure #30443

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Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #21 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26695
As a point of reference, I have found two broken wires between the dash area and the right hand wheel compartment. They were 'cut' by a screw.

ddtuttle

(aka Billy Byte, trusty hound)
2000 Allure #30443

Re: Doing Your Own Service (Lubrication)

Reply #22 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26696
Get a good grease gun. Go for it you will probably do a better job. Make sure you know how to use the tool, clean the fittings, and wipe away the excess.

Re: 06 Inspire Dash Tranny Temp Gauge Inop

Reply #23 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26697
Ned, that was what I said - too easy to go to the dealer. She said that's just like you won't stop for directions either! Women! I did try several attempts to ground to a tranny bolt and nada. I also looked pretty thoroughly at the electrical schematics that CC provided and they really don't show where that wire runs from the sending unit to the gauge - I assume some bundle in the chassis towards the front. I also didn't see anything regarding a fuse that might be in line and I can't think of a reason why they would want to do that anyway. I'm going to make a male blade to fit into the sending unit connector and maybe get a long wire and run it up to the back of the gauge to the grounding post and see what happens.
Harry

06 Inspire 51933

Re: Doing Your Own Service (Lubrication)

Reply #24 –
Yahoo Message Number: 26701
Roger that, Dave. The CC Owner's Guide, Chassis Lubrication, specifically says (wrt "IFS knuckle post assembly"): "Not required for the life of the coach. Apply grease only after knuckle maintenance or replacing components." Harry

06 Inspire 51933