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New tires for the Coach

Yahoo Message Number: 105964
What is the best brand of tire for a 1998 Country Coach Affinity 40 foot with slide? They're a lot of brands like Michelin, Goodyear, Bridgestone, Toyo, Hankook, Yokohama, Samson, Cooper. How is Bridgestone to Goodyear or Michelins?

Thank you in advance for all your help Tim

Re: New tires foor the Coach

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Yahoo Message Number: 105970
First, we have a 33' Allure with no tag.

we had Toyos originally. They were OK. They rode stiff and they had a bad smell.

we replaced them with B F Goodrich ST230's Load Range H at the advise of Pro Tire in Denton TX. B F Goodrich is owned by Michelin and the tires are made in the US. Pat at Pro Tire worked on Prevosts and recommended them because we wanted a good tire cheaper than Michelins. When Lonny told him we had Toyos, he said "you have a Country Coach don't you?" So he knew his business. We put 65,000 miles and 6 years on the B F Goodrich and were satisfied with them. They did have some cracking but we probably could have gotten another year out of them but Lonny had open heart surgery in January 2015 and before we went on our first long trip we wanted new tires. Didn't want his blood pressure to go up due to flat tire! The B F Goodrich rode much better than the Toyos in our opinion although they also rode "stiff".

Last year we decided to replace the BF Goodrich with Michelin XZA2 Energy tires and purchased them through the FMCA discount program. The Michelins ride much better than the B F Goodrich and the coach seems to handle better. Lonny used to work at Goodyear tires and is very picky about tires. He is a happy camper with the Michelins so I guess the higher price was worth it??

Lonny & Diane Livingston
'04 Allure #31065

Re: New tires foor the Coach

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Yahoo Message Number: 105971
We all had to learn the hard way, with tire recalls and deadly accidents that Toyo tires were not a good match for CC motorhomes. That said they don't suffer from tire wall cracking as often as others. And because of the stiff side walls have the best steering response. Goodyear tires are known for edge wear and certain tires like the 670 just don't hold up that well whether used on motorhomes or especially on commercial buses. I have enjoyed my Continentals for both my 98 Allure and 2004 Intrigue, but had one go out round and had to replace it and its mate. I had one set of Michelins that gave the best ride and were very quiet as a highway model, but they failed prematurely with side wall cracking. I replaced them with new Continentals and Michelin does give the best ride and quietest ride. But I will make sure to cover them at every opportunity this time to prevent sun cracking. One of the Continentals that was on the front and rotated to the duals decided to go out of round. So it and it mate were replaced by Michelins and moved to the front last month. So if you ask me considering what I have owned, read, about and seen in service, I would say Michelin first with reservations, Bridgestone second, and definitely Firestone being the last. I've seen to many coaches with front end and rear end damage caused by exploding Firestone tires. But all that said, except for the Toyo and firestone, tire maintenance is the determining factor as to the long term performance of the tires you choose. Over the 55 years I have been very fortunate to have made friends with 3 different tire dealerships. And their advice has been essential in keeping me on the road. I have owned motor homes for 18 years, with an average of tire life of 3.6 years. But as I had the first set of Continentals 18 months before I traded the coach and assume they should have lasted another 3 years and expect m,ore life from remaining Continentals on my Intrigue, I would have a 5 year average. With that said the Toyo's gave me the longest service of any tire yet with my CC RV's.

Michelin has always given me the best service with the family vehicles, and the fleet vehicles we had at work. With Bridgestone, Goodyears , Continentals trailing far behind. And Here again Firestones were the worst OEM tires. TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731

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Yahoo Message Number: 105973
Greetings

I just had 6 Hankook 275/70R22.5 AH12 installed and love the ride. I trust my Tire company and they were highly recommended. Michelin is the understandable standard, and if you need to change tires every 7 years like I do Hankook looks really good.

Jerry

2004 Inspire 51012

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Yahoo Message Number: 105975
The 275R70 22.5 was the size that gave CC all the fits. I must have had 4 telegrams telling me not to move the coach and make sure the tire pressure was up to 120 lbs. I've forgotten how many replacement Toyos I got after the first tread separation. I moved up to 275R 80's for a smoother ride and lower tire pressures. CC wasn't the only coach manufacturer who had trouble with that tire. Beaver comes to mind and they didn't use Toyo. Seems the size just didn't have the safety margin necessary. Twi 2004 Intrigue 11731.

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Yahoo Message Number: 105976
We have Bridgestone on our 2007 45 Intrigue and they are great Darrell

2007 intrigue 12075

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Yahoo Message Number: 105977
I would say Michelins. I currently have Michelins on the front and Continentals on the back to include the tags. Continentals on the back are on their third year and still good to go. Just replaced the Michelins on the front and they don't last much past 6.5 years but the ride and handling can't be beat. When the Michelins start to have small cracks you have to keep an eye on them almost daily. When I took mine off at 7 yrs the cracks got big very quick, but you can't see the inside of the tire where the damage was much worse. Michelins are more susceptible to sun damage because they use more natural rubber. Also, be careful with detailers some use gasoline to make the tires shine, not good.

Alex Ritchey 2000 CC Affinity B&B 42' tag #5773



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Yahoo Message Number: 105980
When I bought our 97 Intrigue I put brand new Yokohamas 22.5 275s on the front and kept the 5 year old Bridgestone tires on the rear. We have been very happy with our Yokohamas over the last 3 years/ 25,000 miles and was going to replace the Bridgestone rears with the same Yokohamas but noticed from our last trip down to Flordia that the drivers side front has lost maybe a forth of an inch worth of tread in just one 3 inch section of the tire on either side of the tire. We did have our 7 year old Bridgestones inspected before the trip and new valve stems installed. Our Bridgestones were in perfect condition no cracks nor bulges. You seem to get what you pay for with tires. I am a firm believer of changing out your tires every 7 years no matter the condition but I'll admit it will hurt me a bit on the inside when I have to replace these Bridgestones and may run them a year longer. I have seen and heard great things about Michelins, great ride and they seem to take abuse well but have never had them on my personal Coach.
Jesse 97 Intrigue 10357

I am going to klpaint the roof of our inspire.

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Yahoo Message Number: 105981
I just received the Hy0-Tech paint for the roof. This stuff insulates as well as eliminates white streaking.

What has anyone cleaned the roof prior to applying paint ?

Stan

Inspire 25406

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Yahoo Message Number: 105982
There is no "best" tire for Country Coaches in my opinion. But there are several very good answers. I have had our Country Coach for 6 1/2 years and we have had Michelin, Goodyear, Firestone, and Dunlop on this coach. They have all worked just fine with no blowouts. We did have a little excess sidewall cracking with Michelins that were made in Spain. On the other hand we had 4 drive Michelins made in the USA that showed no sidewall cracking at all after 6 1/2 years when I replaced them.

I just replaced two Goodyears that were our tag tires that aged out and were pretty worn. They were close to 8 years old and had no cracking at all on the sidewalls and no issues what so ever.

I have 4 Firestone tires on our drive tire now. They have been great tires. Made in the USA. Owned by Bridgestone. They were 27-28% less than Michelin when I bought them about 4 years ago. I did have one flat in one of them, but repaired it and it has been fine. Zero sidewall cracking. One poster in this thread made the comment about exploding Firestones. I think that is balderdash. He is thinking about the Explorer - Firestone issue 20 years ago. Firestone is a very popular tire on school buses around here and they don't put unsafe tires on school buses.

And like wise I had good results from my Dunlop steer tires. I bought those instead of Mich because they were 28% less.

In general Michelin and Goodyear cost the most. And those are excellent tires. Their companies engineer and build their tires in the USA where 90% of all coaches like ours reside. But they do cost the most. So maybe the best tire for you may be one that fits into your budget.

I have heard lots of good things about Hankook tires. They are made in Korea. This is a place with about zero RVs like ours. So what do the Hankook tire people know about making tires for big RV rigs. Nothing. Maybe big vehicles and cars, but not RVs. Lincoln sells Hankook as a premium tire on their cars. They have lots of cars in Korea so they likely know lots about making tires for them. (Likely very few Lincolns though).

I try and spend my money in this country as I live here.

Bob & Barbara 2002 Affinity

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Yahoo Message Number: 105983
I just put Hankooks on Tacoma and love them. Wonder if Hankook size R12?

Larry 03 Allure 30856

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Yahoo Message Number: 105984
I installed six Hankook AH 12 tires and have been very happy with them. Over 10k and no problems.
Bill

03 Intrigue 11514

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Yahoo Message Number: 105985
First time post here but ling time MH owner. I would personally avoid Michelin until they fix their quality issues. I have sidewall cracking issues in tires that are 1 year old. 2005 and 2006 Affinity and Magna models that I have looked at had Toyo as original equipment and I have widespread availability here in the NW so that is probably what I would go with next. Lots of good choices out there, and I love the ride of the Michelins, but not again...

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Yahoo Message Number: 105986
Hello everyone, fairly new here but would like to jump in here about this topic. I purchased a '09 Allure with tag about 8 months ago that had 29k miles and had the original Michelins. They looked like brand new tires!! No cracks and still had the nipples on them. After talking to Les Schwab in Junction City and was told the tires could start breaking down from the inside and wouldn't know it until a failure a occurred. So I replaced them with Toyos at about a 20% savings over Michelins, however, I was told later that some dealers would have given me a refund of about 150-200$ per tire. They would have sold the tires to a trucking company, is there any truth in this? They said they put them on the trailers.
The Toyos do ride a little stiff on the steers but handle well and are responsive compared to the Michelins so hoping they soften up a bit or will switch to a softer ride in the near future.

Dennis Loving

'09 Allure 31700 Crane Prairie
'15 Jeep Grand Cherokee toad

Re: New tires foor the Coach

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Yahoo Message Number: 105987
If your tires are only one year old, it is time to contact Michelin for an adjustment. Have you done that?

Don

'02 Intrigue 11427
'02 Intrigue #11427

Re: Swim system from Directv

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Yahoo Message Number: 105988
Has any one changed their Satellite system for the RV to the Genie system that Direct TV is now installing allowing each receiver to be in effect a DVR? TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731.

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Yahoo Message Number: 105990
Well do you like it and who Installed it for you. How did he run and additional cable for the rear TV? TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731

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Yahoo Message Number: 105991
Redburn Tire bought back my two Continentals for retreading for $280.00 last month in Tucson, when I had the 2 XZA2 315 installed. Working through FMCA I saved 200.00 per tire off the $800.00 list price. I spoke to Paul in Junction City and Les Schwab is part of the Michelin FMCA program, but does not buy back tires for recapping. TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731

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Yahoo Message Number: 105992
I wasn't thinking of Explorer issues. I have seen 2 Magnas an Intrigue and a Beaver with damage from firestone blow outs in Tucson, Junction City and at the Paint Department outside of LA. I have also seen an Allure with moderate damage. I could understand one failure, but 5 is 4 to many. TWI 2004 intrigue 11731

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Yahoo Message Number: 105993
Love the Genie. It was installed April/May 2014. There was a cable already run to the rear. I had changed both TV's to Samsung, so I needed HDMI cables. The rear TV runs of off a Genie client. Had to change the RF Mogul to a Winegard 2015. Don't know where u are, we are headed to OR. Currently in Northern CA.

Wally Falch
408-666-8566

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Yahoo Message Number: 105994
I wanted to keep them but recently started full timing and had no place to store them. Les Schawb in Grants Pass told me they were an odd size for truckers so they couldn't sell them. Wonder what they did with them....? Dennis 31700 Allure

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Yahoo Message Number: 105995
I have it in My house and they didn't have to run any additional cable to the 2nd TV, it works through the existing cable.

Jim Logan 2006 Inspire 360 #51668

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Yahoo Message Number: 105996
Does the Genie have the ability to 'record' while watching another program ?? We currently have DISH and we have major issues with reception and recording . Is it worth changing out everything ? We would love to record more than one show at a time .