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Re: Tires

Reply #150 –
Yahoo Message Number: 74779
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Having recently bought a 2002 Allure with the original tires still on the coach.....I have some questions that maybe you can help me with.
 1. Should I assume that 10 year old tires must be replaced?
YES!!!!!
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2. If I were to replace them, what tires should I consider? My local dealer suggested Sumitomo ST718; the unit currently has Toyo which I understand is out of favor with Oregon Motor Coach Center. The size of these tires is 315/80R22.5
I recommend Michelin XZA2 Energy.

Re: Tires

Reply #152 –
Yahoo Message Number: 74782
Merle & Carm,

The general consensus on motorhome tire life is replace after 7-9 years, regardless of remaining tread. Tires deteriorate over time and you do not want to risk a blowout. I recently saw the damage done by a rear tire blowout on a friend's coach - extensive. That's when I got serious about tire replacement.
I agree with the Michelin XZA2 Energy suggestion. The Family Motor Coach Association has a national program with Michelin that dramatically reduces the cost of these tires - FMCA's Michelin Advantage Program. It's like a national fleet program. I recently replaced the original 8 year old Toyo's on my coach with the XZA2's taking advantage of program pricing.
Go to FMCA's website for information (if perchance you are not a member, the tire savings will more than pay for your dues). See my note #74258 where I posted details of my experience.
I just finished a 2,000 mile trip with the new tires and am really, really pleased with them. They are SO much more comfortable. The coach handles way better, and is much quieter.

Nate Richards
04 Allure 31043

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Reply #153 –
Yahoo Message Number: 75123
I am very happy withe Michelin's. So are some of my running buddies. I had Goodyears before and I think the Michelin's ride better plus I feel more confident in them because the size you need is 22 ply in the XZA2 energy. somewhere on here they was a topic about the FMCA and Michelin where you could get a great deal by ordering them through FMCA.

Tires

Reply #154 –
Yahoo Message Number: 75127
I strongly suggest if anyone is at that point of installing new tires they should look into the new program which has become one of the most beneficial programs your FMCA membership has to offer. I just went through it and saved about $100.00 a tire

Jim Green Intrigue 11021 "rollingghetto" 131,000 + miles

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Reply #155 –
Yahoo Message Number: 75147
So far, pleased with the XZE* 12R on our coach. Liked the extra sidewall strength from the ZXE*. Rides smooth...

Best of luck on your research,
Smitty

04 Allure 31017
04 Allure Sold to a nice new owner! Now enjoying a 07 Magna Rembrandt 45' ISX600 #6775
"We're ONDROAD for THEJRNY!" (Toad and Coach license plates, say Hi if you see us!)

Tires

Reply #157 –
Yahoo Message Number: 77482
What is the name the RV tire manufacture made in Asia and begins with the letter J.
I think it has 4 letters in the name of the tire.

Thanks,I am getting old. Frank

06 Intrugue cat C13 with 23k miles,45 feet, for sale

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Reply #160 –
Yahoo Message Number: 77486
I was wrong, it started with the letter K. , Kumho Tires a excellent tire for RV's.

Thanks f

Frank Schell

1559 Woodfield Way
The Villages, Fl 32162
828.699.6980 cell

. Please excuse my brevity, spelling and punctuation.

Tires

Reply #161 –
Yahoo Message Number: 79303
I'm going to buy a CC 2003 Allure from a private owner. The coach has 47.7k miles on the original tires.
I've expressed concern on the age of the tires. He's been reassured BY the local tire co that the tires on the coach are ok.
I drove trucks in the 70's and a truck tire and an RV tire are different.
So, I've expressed my concern to the seller, but he's unmoved.
The price is very good for a coach that been inside/climate.
I just don't like the tire issue.
Help

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Reply #162 –
Yahoo Message Number: 79304
The original tires on the 2003 coach are WAY OVERDUE for replacement. Please read other recent posts in this group about tire replacement options. The tires are an accident waiting to happen.

Herb

Group Moderator

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Reply #163 –
Yahoo Message Number: 79305
On RV tires mileage is irrelevant except to indicate the coach sat more than it rolled which is bad for tires.
Age based on the DOT code stamped on the side of the tire is the key measure for replacement. Depending on who you listen to 5, 6 or max 7 years is time for replacement. As Herb said 10+ years is an accident waiting to happen. YOU will need to replace the tires. Weather the seller participates is a point of negotiation.

Bob Wexler
SOB

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Reply #164 –
Yahoo Message Number: 79307
You say the price is very good. I would take that as a sign that you like everything about the coach except for the tires. So what? If the price is that good, buy the coach and put new tires on it and have fun.
If you came to look at my coach and you liked the price and the coach but you balked because of the tires and wanted to deal, I'd tell you that the tire condition is the reason I have the coach priced like I do, take it or leave it.

Don

'02 Intrigue #11427
'02 Intrigue #11427

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Reply #165 –
Yahoo Message Number: 79308
I feel that if I'm going to sell you an RV and I say it's in perfect condition, it should include the tires.
But, I agree with you, so what? Guess I'm going to be a CC owner. Thanks Don, sometimes we can't see past our nose. John

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Reply #166 –
Yahoo Message Number: 79310
Any time your tires are 5 years old or older it is time to Replace them as your Life is worth more than the cost of tires.
Also, you don't want to be on the side of the road waiting for hours for a Tire Dealer to show up to Replace your flat tire.
I am buying a 2007 CC Affinity and the First Thing I will do is Replace all of the Tires on that Puppy so I have Peace of Mind while driving and knowing I will not be stuck on the side of the road waiting and waiting and waiting for a Replacement to show up.

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Reply #167 –
Yahoo Message Number: 79322
Listen to the voices of experience in this group. The tires will need to be replaced. I evaluated the tires on a coach that we bought a few months ago by examining the tread depth and looking for signs of cracking in the sidewalls. I thought they looked okay, but we blew a tire in the first 500 miles on our first trip. Then I learned to look for the age of the tires and found that mine were way too old. Multiple tire people and RV owners told me pretty much the same thing. Their time limits varied from 5-7 years, but they all agreed age is usually the determining factor on rv tires, not mileage or tread depth. Thank goodness our blowout didn't cause an accident. It was on the dual and we were able to limp in to town.

Hope you enjoy your coach.

Jerry

1997 Intrigue

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Reply #168 –
Yahoo Message Number: 80559
Time to replace the Toyo's (11R/22.5). Want to go with Michelin after reading about so many people being happy with the change. However I wasn't smart enough to write anything down. Tire of choice, size, etc. The local dealer says XZA 3 is best choice. Comments??? Thanks...Ray Insrire 51692

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Reply #169 –
Yahoo Message Number: 80561
XZA3 is a great tire, for me anyway. Smooth ride, straight tracking, and better than 10% improvement in fuel economy at 10 lbs less tire pressure.
Had Toyo's before, and liked them. Until I got the Michelins. 11R/22.5, load range H. Go for the FMCA/Michelin deal.

Jay

05 Inspire 51457

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Reply #170 –
Yahoo Message Number: 80571
I have the Michelin XZA3 tires on my Inspire. Nice ride, quiet and slight improvement in fuel economy.
I think you will like them
RJ

2005 Inspire #51264

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Reply #171 –
Yahoo Message Number: 80585
Ray,

I just put the XZ COACH michelin tires on Tuesday. I went with the "XZ COACH" because they were a load range higher, Load Range J, than the XZA's. They are new and made for coaches.

Mark & Helen Surber
07 Intrigue 12162
C13 Cat Allison Trans
06 Rubicon LJ

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Reply #172 –
Yahoo Message Number: 80587
Ray, I also put new steer tires on our coach. We put Michelin XZE tires on and what a difference in handling. We bought them thur FMCA. John/ 2003 Allure 30951

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Reply #174 –
Yahoo Message Number: 81361
Looks like a great choice, I chose the 315 HSL1, because I wanted the same diameter as my 12R. They have the same loaded width as the 295 your looking at. Because the tread pattern is closer to my former XZ2 and the Xze. I imagine you will get a similar ride, and a quiet ride too. My HSL1 have a more aggressive tread and our a touch nosier on Oregon asphalt and concrete, but not as bad as the
Toyos I had originally. The ride is as smooth as Michelins at 120 lbs up front. I have sinced lowered the pressure to 112 lbs which matches the load carrying capacity of my wheels with a 5% factor to allow speeds up to 70 mp with the 4% load rating loss. I am off to Portland tomorrow and will update everyone. I got the 315's from BOB Dickman in Junction City for the same price as 12R Michelin XZE.

TWI 2004 Intrigue 11731 PS. TELL US THE MODEL AND SERIAL NUMBER OF YOUR CC>