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Re: Tires vs speedometer reading

Reply #50
Yahoo Message Number: 19701
Speed error is a percentage not a flat figure. The faster you drive the greater the error will be displayed in MPH but the percentage will remain the same.

Dave Di

2000 Allure 30443

Tires

Reply #51
Yahoo Message Number: 23591
After reading the recent discussion of tires, I thought you might be interested in these high tech tires as possible replacements.

Chuck Penque

03 Intrigue 11673


Tires

Reply #53
Yahoo Message Number: 27245
Ha anyone purchased coach tires from VE Tire Center in Eugene? I heard that they are more competitive on pricing than Schwab in JC.

Don

'02 Intrigue #11427
'02 Intrigue #11427

Tires

Reply #54
Yahoo Message Number: 38225
It is time to replace all of my coach tires. I have been pricing Michelins, Hankook, Goodyear and B.F. Goodrich. The Michelins are extremely pricey and there is an availability issue with the Goodyear G670. I had some good response on the B.F. Goodrich, and the Hankook have been installed on motorhomes in my area, so it's not a new thing.
I have not however talked to any users of the Hankook. Any suggestions on experience, or a suitable substitute for the Michelins?? I put the question out to another group and the tire of choice was the Michelin, no mention of another brand. One tire dealer said that the B.F.Goodrich was made by Michelin and that I would be more than happy with them.

Fred Sage '01 Magna #5983 '08 Honda CR-V

Re: Tires

Reply #55
Yahoo Message Number: 38226
I just replaced all 6 of mine with Michelin XZE, 12R22.5s with no regrets. The goodyear-dealer installer was amazed on how easy the Michelins were to spin balance. Two required no weights and all required much less weights than previous Toyos. Wife says the Michelins are quieter and smoother riding. I have to agree.

Larry 03 Allure 30856

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Reply #56
Yahoo Message Number: 38233
Fred,

In August 2007, I went to a local truck tire dealer for my 4 rear drive tires and came away with Yokohama RY023LRH 295/75R22.5 all position tires from TDS for $1496. They recommended these as drive tires for my rig. These are what they stick on the local school buses, coal trucks, local-haul rigs, etc. I made the mistake of paying $950 for two front GoodYear G670LRH tires in 2006 (considerably more nowadays). Next time I will go local and ask for two steer tires - probably Yokohama tires.
These have worked out great so far. What's more, if I get them back to the dealer inside of 5 years, he will buy them back and can resell them since they are a heavily used model here. He cannot re-sell them if they are more than 5 years old.

These are referred to as a "Regional" tire and not a "Long Haul" tire.
These take a little more abuse and are designed for use intermittently as in drive all day, stop a day or few days, hit a curb, etc. A "Long Haul" tire is designed more for constant highway use and are generally worn out from mileage in less than a year - sometimes as few as 6 or 7 months. The "Long Haul" tires also are hard-riding.
After out-of-round experiences with Michelin on my previous rig, and the comments about blowouts that I've read in various forums, I will never buy them again. So far, the GoodYears on the front are doing OK, I'm noticing a little edge wear - just that the current price for them is really high - when you can find them.

Mike

'95 Magna #5266

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Re: Tires

Reply #57
Yahoo Message Number: 38234
I just had to do the same. Believe it or not I got a good price on Michelin XZA-3 275 80R225's "H" rated (which is the CC recommendation for '98 Intrigue) at Camping World (go figure).

I always try to avoid Camping World for anything because of their high prices but they were within $30/tire of every outlet I could find in South Florida. My net out the door was $3,556 with stems and balancing and all taxes. I actually could beat their price at two tire outlets but they were not national chains so I avoided them since we are always in a different part of the country.
I decided to pay a little more and go with Camping World because when I have problems I can go back to Camping World if I am not able to get the problem handled anywhere else.
The last time I purchased tires for my RV I purchased Goodyear and I had a problem with tread separation on one tire. Every Goodyear Truck tire dealer I went to gave me a different prorate price for adjustment (9,000 miles and 2 years) and they had to have their money before they would order the replacement tire. Two actually refused to handle it saying the tread separation was a vehicle problem, not the tire.

I had a friend that purchased Michelin XZA2's from Camping World and he developed a bulge in one tire. He went to Camping World (a different one than where had purchased the tire) and they replaced his 30,000 mile 3 year old tire within two hours at no charge and he was on his way.

I realize my luck may not be that good but I know working with truck tire dealers is not my favorite thing to do. I know some home town dealers are quite good but when a problem occurs and you are 1,500 miles away you are at the mercy of the local guy.

I have no problem paying $30/tire more to know I can always start a mail campaign with Camping World and Michelin if I feel I'm mis- treated and I have a better chance that one of the two will see it my way.

IMHO I will happily pay up to $800 more for a set of tires from a dealer that will provide some level of comfort and a feeling of well being while still offering a safe product.

Joey

'98 Intrigue #10540, '07 Camry

Re: Tires

Reply #58
Yahoo Message Number: 38238
Tires are probably the most important safety item on our coaches. I would not skimp on tires. I have Michelin XZ2's on my coach. They ride and handle great and have about 50% weight safety margin on the front and about 30% on the back. Allows me to run 95 PSI front and 75 PSI rear and keep tire temps below 110 dF. The weight safety margin gives me a lot of piece of mind. They were close to $500 each.

I put Goodyear R670's on my old Fleetwood and was VERY happy with those as well. It's all about load ratings though. Doesn't pay to put cheap tires on a coach. You'll get away with it for awhile but eventually you'll have a blow-out.

"You get what you pay for" doesn't always apply but with tires I'm convinced it does.

Don't skimp on the tires is my advice. The Michelins are great and so are the Goodyears just get a load rating that has a good margin for your coach.


Re: Tires

Reply #60
Yahoo Message Number: 46826
We learned today that a couple in our park in Florida had a serious accident on I-95 near Jacksonville due to a tire failure. Their coach was a 2001 with low mileage, but had the original tires. The right front tire blew and they went off the road and hit a tree 12 inches in diameter killing his wife. The generator was purportedly driven back past the front suspension. There has been a lot of talk on this site about tires and in some instances people seem reluctant to replace tires that from an outward appearance appear to be perfectly good, but the five year rule of replacing the tires is cheap insurance. Gene 10920 --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Gene Clendenin wrote:From: Gene Clendenin Subject: Re: [Country-Coach-Owners] Bahia Honda State ParkTo: Country-Coach-Owners@yahoogroups.comDate: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 4:48 PM No, I was trying several days in advance. We decided to leave the coach in Miami and drive to the Keys. We stopped at the campground and wanted to go in and check it out, but refused to pay $7.00 admission. We viewed the campground from a highway bridge coming back and there did not appear to be a lot of motor coach sites. The KOA in Key West wanted $125.00, leaving the coach in Miami and doing day trips worked well. Gene10920--- On Tue, 4/14/09, geklima@comcast. net wrote:From: geklima@comcast. net Subject: Re: [Country-Coach- Owners] Bahia Honda State ParkTo: Country-Coach- Owners@yahoogrou ps.comDate: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 4:31 PM
Gene,

I gather you were trying to get a space for the samw day as a walk in.

George

Tires

Reply #61
Yahoo Message Number: 49583
Need some help locating a good place to buy and have spin balanced tires for my CC Allure. I live in the Columbia SC area, but I am willing to travel some to get the best deal and purchase from a reliable company. I need 12R 22.5 load range H and want to have them spin balanced, not the powder or beads method. I am leaning toward the Bridgestone R250F tires. Any good experiences would be appreciated.

Gordon

2002 Allure 30690

Re: Tires

Reply #62
Yahoo Message Number: 49584
I know of a place in Knoxiville Tn. that has done several friends coaches I am going in Sept to have new tires on our coach I dont have the info with me at present but if you are interested in traveling to Knoxville email me and I will give you the name and ph #

Tommy Townsend

2006 CC magna #6584m

Tires

Reply #63
Yahoo Message Number: 57228
Does anyone have an opinion about how Continental tires compare to the Toyo 12R 22.5?

Thanks

George Harper
04 Allure
31093

Tires

Reply #64
Yahoo Message Number: 58683
I know this topic has been discussed to death!! However I would like to hear what you all have to say about Hancock tires for the 4 rear tires. My rear tires are the original Toyos that were put on the coach 12 years ago and its time to put them to bed. I've read all the post concerning all the top brands.

Input anyone?

Steve

1998 Intrigue #10557

Re: Tires

Reply #65
Yahoo Message Number: 58693
If I get 12 years out of my Toyos then I know what I will be replacing them with.

Don Seager

2004 Allure 31046. 6 year old Toyos in great shape using Sun Block for Tires

Re: Tires

Reply #66
Yahoo Message Number: 58720
WOW, 12 years on a set of rear tires? Thats amazing.... I had a catastrophic failure on the left inside dual after 6 yrs 3 mths on tires. Did some rather major re-designing of the body panels aft of the left duals. Never-the-less, I will never go over five years again!! Isn't worth it.

ddtuttle

aka Billy Byte (trusty hound)
2000 Allure #30443

Re: Tires

Reply #67
Yahoo Message Number: 58737
Yikes, glad I' am not following you down the highway. Then adding mfg and storage before they were installed on your coach probably close to 14 years.
I can't remember any posts on Hancock tires being in the mix for replacement. Is there any reason to consider a brand that would be hard to match if one became damaged ? Looking ahead a non repairable puncture makes options less to keep tires matched on the axle.
AL

00 affinity

Re: Tires

Reply #68
Yahoo Message Number: 58754
I believe they are made in China....take your chances, but better learn to eat with chop sticks and speak Chinese.

Max 98 Affinity # 5487

Tires

Reply #69
Yahoo Message Number: 60267
I have always been under the impression that 5 years was the maximum for a set of tires. This was underscored by a number of tire failures after that length of time. I realize that there are contributing variables but I have not been willing to chance the alternative and it may have been a coincidence but some of these failures have had very serious consequences. Your thoughts? Jack

99 Affinity

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Reply #70
Yahoo Message Number: 60272
My tires were five years old when I bought the coach, and I kept them another two years. My worry level went up considerably the last year, and I priced tires from Texas to Arizona to Utah to Oregon. I finally found a good price and good dealer at Les Schwab in Oakridge Oregon that was within $50 of the lowest price I found, fresh (STINKY!!) tires, and bought them. The dealer then sold my "old" tires, as the casings were in good shape, and the tread was still over half, $300 back into my pocket. My worry decreased dramatically.
I have a friend with a class C that blew out an inner dual on a Michelin steel belted, and it took out a lot of wiring and rearranged several frame members under his RV. I related that to a possible blow out on my Country Coach, and thought the body damage alone, even if I did not wreck and kill myself or someone else, would be at least twice what a new set of tires cost. So, I just said "Ouch" and bought them. Best $2700 (after the check back) I ever spent.
I replaced the Toyos that came from the factory, I believe the nomenclature is M111b. There have been discussions about Toyos, none of which applied to my situation. If anyone is interested, the search feature can find it for you. I like everything about them.

Jack Nichols, 2003 Intrigue 11527

Tires

Reply #71
Yahoo Message Number: 60278
New tires and those not old is one of the cheapest insurance practices you can do.
A friend of mine had an inside duel blow, went through the roof on a Beaver. Cost over $20,000 to get repaired. His tires were 6 years old with low miles.

GPisel

04 Allure, 31068

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Reply #72
Yahoo Message Number: 60279
I suppose it may matter in what part of the country you live but in Florida I would never think of running tires over 5 years old. I can't speak for bus tires but on my boat trailer, I had 2 tires blow out coming back from a trip and had to buy 4 truck tires to get me home. The Suburban I was using as a tow vehicle also had a rear tire come apart on the same trip, however I got home using its spare. In every case there was ample tread on all of the tires. Had one come apart on my Jag too and it was 6 years old. Replacing the tires on my '02 was a no brainer when I did it in 2008. Heard too many stories on what happens when they come apart, Fiberglass no match to a rubber carcass.
Ed McManus.....'02 Intrigue....11361

Re: Tires

Reply #73
Yahoo Message Number: 60280
I just love these debates on tires. There are a million and one reasons why a tire fails. Age is just one of them. I've blown a new tire and I've also blown a 15 year old tire. So what should I conclude?
I think factors such as owner/user and opperating environment play a bigger part of the picture than age.
I know I'm not going to spend money just because my tires have a birthday.

Bruce

2001 Itrigue #11278

Re: Tires

Reply #74
Yahoo Message Number: 60281
Wise words Bruce. So have I.

Don Seager

2004 Allure 31046

I just love these debates on tires. There are a million and one reasons why a tire fails. Age is just one of them. I've blown a new tire and I've also blown a 15 year old tire. So what should I conclude?
I think factors such as owner/user and opperating environment play a bigger part of the picture than age.
I know I'm not going to spend money just because my tires have a birthday.

Bruce

2001 Itrigue #11278